Actual User Experience with Duplicate File Finder Software

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genosmm

Am looking for Duplicate File Finder Apps so did a Forum search and
could not believe how many different apps I found! Over 20+ apps in
one response
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....duplicate+file+finder&rnum=1#abf8842cb4c7de91

This
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....duplicate+file+finder&rnum=2#a738eb89da4b38f7
gave more info for each app listed but was posted Nov '03 so may not be
up to date for the latest versions.

Appreciate any suggestions from someone who has actually tried various
Duplicate File Finder Apps recently.

Would be nice if this app could also be used for checking duplicate
JPEGs but not the top priority.

Thanks

Genosmm
 
S

someone

genosmm said:
Am looking for Duplicate File Finder Apps so did a Forum search and
could not believe how many different apps I found! Over 20+ apps in
one response
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....duplicate+file+finder&rnum=1#abf8842cb4c7de91

This
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....duplicate+file+finder&rnum=2#a738eb89da4b38f7
gave more info for each app listed but was posted Nov '03 so may not be
up to date for the latest versions.

Appreciate any suggestions from someone who has actually tried various
Duplicate File Finder Apps recently.

Would be nice if this app could also be used for checking duplicate
JPEGs but not the top priority.
CloneSpy
www.clonespy.com/

EasyCleaner
www.majorgeeks.com/download414.html

Which also does a lot of other good things.
 
C

Craig

genosmm said:
Appreciate any suggestions from someone who has actually tried various
Duplicate File Finder Apps recently.

Would be nice if this app could also be used for checking duplicate
JPEGs but not the top priority.

Thanks

Genosmm

Comparator works well. Works on most, if not all, file types including
jpeg. http://softbytelabs.com/Frames.html

hth,
-Craig
 
G

Gert van der Kooij

That site seems to be one that my FF 1.0.5 does not like, even with javascript and
images enabled. Can't get to freeware mentioned on the page.

No problems with FF 1.5 to go to their freeware page.
 
C

Craig

Gert said:
Actually it's the 'Shareware and Freeware' page at
http://softbytelabs.com/Products.html

Y'know...

This site uses some interesting, if not frustrating, url mark up that
makes it difficult to offer a direct url. If you'd like to get at the
freeware version of comparator, the quickest was is by going to the Main
Page (http://softbytelabs.com/Frames.html) then clicking on the
"Downloads" menu tab at top.

Odd use of frames over there...

-Craig
 
O

omega

I make a first divide of dupes programs into two rough categories.

One category are those where you need to compare two directories (or directory
trees) side-by-side. Then you compare the two panels for dupes, and similar.

The other category is where you point the dupes program at a single directory
tree (or collection of directories if feature offered), and tell it "find all
dupes" within this location.

I believe Comparator falls into the first category - comparison of a pair of
directory trees. I also had the impression that the OP was looking for a dupes
searcher more of the second type. Although need for both types of programs
comes up in our various dupe cleaning projects...
Can you post the URL?

I actually found that tricky myslef. I resorted to asking Google:
"Comparator freeware site:softbytelabs.com"

Following are the URLS related to Comparator. Note: I am convinced that all
else on the site is only shareware (correction appreciated if that not true).

DESCRIPTION & SCREENSHOT
http://www.softbytelabs.com/Comparator/index.html
http://www.softbytelabs.com/Comparator/Main.gif

| Keeping track of files and protecting them from loss or damage is a never
| ending chore for any active PC user. Here is a simple utility that will
| take some of the insecurity and the tedium out of finding, deleting and
| copying over duplicate or version files. With Comparator, you won't
| need to open two Explorer windows to make painstaking comparisons but
| you'll still have the Windows system menu available to you by right-
| clicking a file. Here, too, is an alternative to the Microsoft® Briefcase -
| - install this freeware program everywhere you go to keep shared files in
| sync. Finally, don't neglect full backup routines, but do make use of
| Comparator to quickly update a small backup set before you get down to
| some serious work. You can also run Comparator in multi-language interface
| (all menus, dialog texts and messages). Or create your own language by
| editing the language file directly.

DOWNLOAD
http://softbytelabs.com/Downloads/index.html
http://softbytelabs.com/Downloads/Comparator.exe

| Comparator Freeware full install with uninstaller (no DLLs required)
| Comparator.exe v2.20 20-Dec-1999 520,324


...............................................................................


Here is a group of screenshots I'd taken during times I tried out Comparator:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/comparator/comparator.htm


Also I had some notes on it that I'd written to myself.

comparator notes.k
---------------------------------------------------------------
cannot refresh treeview

must close and restart program

since it is very tedious to select the folders in the first place,
this makes it a big problem for a number of dupes projects

...

krashed on large dirs
---------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry, but I cannot decipher what I was talking about. Maybe some day after
more coffee and when I'm in the riddle-solving mood. Also, I don't know what
I meant by the usage of word "large" in the above, would have been nice to
have noted a sample size. Ah, well...
 
M

ms

Craig said:
The actual d/l url comes out as javascript parameters. The closest I
could get is same as above (http://softbytelabs.com/Frames.html).

-Craig
p.s. is their a reason you run FF 1.0.5?

I have an old P166, 2 MBVRAM, etc. I find some large or invasive programs cause
crashes, etc. And even FF 1.0.5 uses over 30 MB RAM, has me running at O resources,
so I don't think 1.5 will be easier on resources.

Next month I will have a better computer, will try 1.5, with lots of VRAM and RAM,
won't be so critical.

Mike Sa
 
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ms

omega said:
I make a first divide of dupes programs into two rough categories.

One category are those where you need to compare two directories (or directory
trees) side-by-side. Then you compare the two panels for dupes, and similar.

The other category is where you point the dupes program at a single directory
tree (or collection of directories if feature offered), and tell it "find all
dupes" within this location.

I believe Comparator falls into the first category - comparison of a pair of
directory trees. I also had the impression that the OP was looking for a dupes
searcher more of the second type. Although need for both types of programs
comes up in our various dupe cleaning projects...




I actually found that tricky myslef. I resorted to asking Google:
"Comparator freeware site:softbytelabs.com"

Following are the URLS related to Comparator. Note: I am convinced that all
else on the site is only shareware (correction appreciated if that not true).

DESCRIPTION & SCREENSHOT
http://www.softbytelabs.com/Comparator/index.html
http://www.softbytelabs.com/Comparator/Main.gif

| Keeping track of files and protecting them from loss or damage is a never
| ending chore for any active PC user. Here is a simple utility that will
| take some of the insecurity and the tedium out of finding, deleting and
| copying over duplicate or version files. With Comparator, you won't
| need to open two Explorer windows to make painstaking comparisons but
| you'll still have the Windows system menu available to you by right-
| clicking a file. Here, too, is an alternative to the Microsoft® Briefcase -
| - install this freeware program everywhere you go to keep shared files in
| sync. Finally, don't neglect full backup routines, but do make use of
| Comparator to quickly update a small backup set before you get down to
| some serious work. You can also run Comparator in multi-language interface
| (all menus, dialog texts and messages). Or create your own language by
| editing the language file directly.

DOWNLOAD
http://softbytelabs.com/Downloads/index.html
http://softbytelabs.com/Downloads/Comparator.exe

| Comparator Freeware full install with uninstaller (no DLLs required)
| Comparator.exe v2.20 20-Dec-1999 520,324


..............................................................................


Here is a group of screenshots I'd taken during times I tried out Comparator:

http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/comparator/comparator.htm


Also I had some notes on it that I'd written to myself.

comparator notes.k
---------------------------------------------------------------
cannot refresh treeview

must close and restart program

since it is very tedious to select the folders in the first place,
this makes it a big problem for a number of dupes projects

...

krashed on large dirs
---------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry, but I cannot decipher what I was talking about. Maybe some day after
more coffee and when I'm in the riddle-solving mood. Also, I don't know what
I meant by the usage of word "large" in the above, would have been nice to
have noted a sample size. Ah, well...
Thanks, Karen, for the link (it works fine) and the review. I also need the miracle
of caffine due to age/sleep problems.

Mike Sa
 
C

Craig

ms said:
Next month I will have a better computer, will try 1.5, with lots of
VRAM and RAM, won't be so critical.

Mike Sa

More-better-faster. Works for me!

<grin>
-Craig
 
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omega

ms said:
Thanks, Karen, for the link (it works fine) and the review. I also need the miracle
of caffine due to age/sleep problems.

One caffeine fan to another. :) I indulged in a reply on that which
seemed too OT, so I snuck it over to alt.comp.freeware.discussion.
<[email protected]>
 
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ms

omega said:
One caffeine fan to another. :) I indulged in a reply on that which
seemed too OT, so I snuck it over to alt.comp.freeware.discussion.
<[email protected]>
Karen, I clicked on the link, got a Thunderbird Composition window. Then I pasted the
URL (sort of) into Firefox, can't go to it. If necessary, will subscribe to that
group, is there another way?

Mike Sa
 
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omega

ms said:
Karen, I clicked on the link, got a Thunderbird Composition window. Then I pasted the
URL (sort of) into Firefox, can't go to it. If necessary, will subscribe to that
group, is there another way?

I do not know the answer for Thunderbird.

I'll describe how my client ($Agent) offers things up. I'm not trying to
be an anti-topic payware promotor (at all): it's that options in this area
similar to what $Agent provides are what I would hope for in other clients.

It ($Agent 1.9x) has prefs dialog like this:

How to interpret a name@domain URL:

[ ] Prompt for action
[ ] Assume the URL is an email address
[ ] Assume the URL is a message-id
[ ] Make an educated guess

Search for Message URLs in:

[ ] Current Group [ ] Folders
[ ] Subscribed groups [ ] News Server
[ ] All groups [ ] Prompt before going online

That second set of prefs, it offers the option that one can have the client
look on server for the referenced MID, and get the message even when located
in a group to which one is not subscribed.

The main prefs, if Prompt for Action is the setting, it has a helpful dialog
pop up after a click, letting one choose whether its a mailto link or a MID,
or letting Agent guess from context.

I have my own settings for "Assume MID." I use the direct launch all the
time, especially when tracing back a message in a thread, re-retrieval
from server, via exposing headers of a message to utilize the references:
line.

Okay, so to get to the question. I installed Thunderbird today, and
I could not find out how to set things up in a similar manner. It acted
restricted to automatically assumption of mailto link, opening its
composition window on click of a MID.

Thunderbird's graphical options dialog is very barebones, saw nothing
related there.

So, is setting up the prefs related to interpreting and launching MIDs done
via about:config / prefs.js somewhere? If so, where?

Or does it require a third-party extension?

I installed one extension: MessageID-Finder. This provides a context menu
entry for xxx@yyy items: "Find Message by ID." The submenu choices include
local search, search on news server, search Google.

That is better than nothing. But it is a lot of clicks when I am used to
being able to direct click. So I'm still wondering about configuration of
Thunderbird's inherent interpretation and behavior for the xxx@yyy items.

Also the MessageID-Finder did not resolve another issue for me. When I
expose headers in Thunderbird in order to backtrack a thread, retrieve
an earlier message by clicking on its MID in the references: field, well,
this isn't possible. It's just plaintext, not hot links. What do Thunderbird
users need to do, in order to retrieve a message that is in the references:
field?

Testing Thunderbird today, I also checked for how it would do if someone
presented a MID in this form:

<
This happened to not work for me with Thunderbird. I avoid having (same choice w mailto:) a registered protocol on my system. This since
I don't like for software to load up suddenly when I've unintentionally
clicked a mailto:blush:r link on the web.

I suppose most Thunderbird users can, however, launch a MID if it appears
in the message body with the string preceding. I have some memory
that for MSOE users too, this is the form that is usable. I suppose that
I should tune my habits, and try to make sure to use the prefix when I
post a MID for others to reference, for fuller compatibility with various
clients.

But, again, what if I wanted to take up use of Thunderbird myself? I'm
hoping an experienced user can describe the options in this area....

(I'm not up to spending the next 40 hours scouring docs instead of just
stopping and asking directions on this subject. Though I did give it well
over two hours already. Then I ran back home to my long familiar territory,
the news client I'm used to. )
 

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