Activation code

[Ben H]

I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in their
database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used on another
computer.
Is this correct?
Thanks




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[Harry Ohrn]

Yes the database is kept for 120 days. However that doesn't entitle you to
use the same license on multiple systems.

 

[D@annyBoy]

why would MS want to keep the activations codes, whatever they are ?

I heard MS distributing free burgers and coke



While sipping a glass of wine, I read that Ben H wrote in

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

No! You need to purchase a second license if you wish
to install Windows XP on a second computer.

It is clearly a violation of the EULA to install the same Windows XP
license on a second computer without removing Windows XP from
the original computer.

Please read the EULA by going to Start > Run and type: WINVER
and hit enter.

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:

| I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in their
| database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used on another
| computer.
| Is this correct?
| Thanks

 

[Alias]

I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in their
database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used on another
computer.
Is this correct?
Thanks

Yes, it is, you *can* install it on another machine. You're not
*supposed* to do that, according to the EULA which, of course, doesn't
apply for fair use in the privacy of one's home.

Alias

 

[D@annyBoy]

you referring to the hardware database?

While sipping a glass of wine, I read that Harry Ohrn wrote in

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in their
database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used on another
computer.
Is this correct?

If one has no integrity, it's technically doable, yes.


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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

There is no mention of "fair use in the privacy of one's home"
in the Windows XP End-User License Agreement. Please refrain
from encouraging others to violate the legal provisions of the
EULA.

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"Alias" bogusly wrote:

| Yes, it is, you *can* install it on another machine. You're not
| *supposed* to do that, according to the EULA which, of course, doesn't
| apply for fair use in the privacy of one's home.
|
| Alias

 

[Richard Urban]

Because I have a mind to slander someone, and the tools to do it (the
internet) does that make me morally correct in doing it?

You, and the hundreds of thousands of people who have been stealing software
for the past 15 years, know damn well that it's not right. Note that I have
said nothing about legality. I have just said it's not right!

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aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Yes, it is, you *can* install it on another machine. You're not
*supposed* to do that, according to the EULA which, of course, doesn't
apply for fair use in the privacy of one's home.

Actually, you've fallen for one of Kurt's biggest lies. The Microsoft
EULA in no way infringes upon one's "fair use" of the OS, as the term
"fair use" is defined by law.

Try reading something that Kurt wouldn't want you to see, the true,
legal definition of "fair use."

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html


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[kurttrail]

I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in
their database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used
on another computer.
Is this correct?
Thanks

"Finally, the Microsoft activation clearinghouse system will
automatically allow activation to occur over the Internet four times in
one year on substantially different hardware." -
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...sProductActivationTechnicalMarketBulletin.doc

"The installation ID is the required activation data. The installation
ID is a code that is provided to Microsoft as part of activation, either
electronically, if activation occurs over the Internet, or verbally to a
customer service representative if activation occurs over the telephone.
The installation ID is made up of two components: the software's product
ID and a hardware hash value. The product ID is unique to that software
installation and is generated from the product key used during
installation. (For Windows XP SP1 and Office 2003 installations only,
the product key is also sent as part of activation in order to deter
product key cracks). The hardware hash value is a nonunique
representation of the PC on which the software was installed. It is
called a hash value because it has no direct correlation to the PC and
cannot be backward-calculated to the original value. When displayed to a
customer for a telephone activation, the Installation ID is displayed as
a 50-digit code (54 digits for Windows XP SP1 and Office 2003
activations)." - http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

So you see, MS has NO IDEA AT ALL the difference between a computer that
has "substantially different hardware" and a totally different computer,
since they cannot backward calculate the hardware hash.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Alias]

There is no mention of "fair use in the privacy of one's home"
in the Windows XP End-User License Agreement.

I didn't say there was.

Please refrain

from encouraging others to violate the legal provisions of the
EULA.

LOL! Do your homework before you post, please.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Actually, you've fallen for one of Kurt's biggest lies. The
Microsoft EULA in no way infringes upon one's "fair use" of the OS, as
the term "fair use" is defined by law.

Try reading something that Kurt wouldn't want you to see, the true,
legal definition of "fair use."

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html

Being as MS hasn't taken anyone to court about it, this url is useless.
In Spain, the courts recently ruled that downloading music, dvds,
software, etc. using programs like eMule for home use is not illegal.
What do you think of that and how will you advise users in Spain who
post on this board?

Alias

 

[Alias]

If one has no integrity, it's technically doable, yes.

Forcing people to buy a copy of software for each computer used in the
privacy of their home shows a total lack of integrity and an
overabundance of greed.

Alias

 

[Richard Urban]

Unless you were the one who was selling said operating system!

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aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[D@annyBoy]

especially the cost !!!

BUT if you only know the amount of effort put in to ensure the OS runs with
minimal bugs, then the price you pay for a legal copy is chicken feed




While sipping a glass of wine, I read that Alias wrote in

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Being as MS hasn't taken anyone to court about it, this url is useless.

That sentence makes absolutely no sense. Is English a second language
for you? There's certainly no logic or connection between the two
portions of the sentence. Or are you trying to say that the
legislative, executive, and judicial branches all need Microsoft's
permission to enact law?

In Spain, the courts recently ruled that downloading music, dvds,
software, etc. using programs like eMule for home use is not illegal.

Irrelevant. We're not discussing Spanish courts' total disregard for
the intellectual property of others.

What do you think of that

Nothing.

and how will you advise users in Spain who
post on this board?

I'd inform them that this is a newsgroup primarily intended for English
speakers, and therefore the residents of English-speaking countries, and
that they'd have better success getting their specific technical issues
properly addressed in one of the Spanish language groups.



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[D@annyBoy]

MS do not take violations of the EULA by consumers seriously, I guess
the real bucks come from the corporates

While sipping a glass of wine, I read that Alias wrote in

 

[D@annyBoy]

if you remove the copy from the original computer, you can install the OS in
another computer (depending on the version, OEM excluded)

While sipping a glass of wine, I read that Alias wrote in

 

[Ben H]

I'm sorry I asked !

Ben H

I have read somewhere that Microsoft only keep activation codes in their
database for 120 days. After that a CD product key can be used on another
computer.
Is this correct?
Thanks



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