A simple network... possible?

[kenny]

I want to make the following configuration...
Please don't suggest I get a router, because I don't want a router.

Can I make the network like the following image?

http://www.computerboom.net/kenny/my-network.jpg

PC1 plays the role of a software router with ICS and sends the
internet connection to Pc2 and Pc3 via a SWITCH like the following NETGEAR
one:
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FS605.php

Will this work for internet sharing and file and printer sharing? All PCs
have static
IPs as shown in the image.

I already have a network with ICS between 2 computers (using a crossover
cable)..
but I am thinking of getting the switch so I can add a third one.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

[Doug Sherman [MVP]]

Yes, except for the static addressing this is the standard ICS setup. With
static addressing you will also need to manually set the default gateway and
DNS parameters.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

 

[Chas]

Hi
Why not add another NIC to Computer 2 and connect to Computer 3

Chas

 

[kenny]

I tried that but it did not work.... Does what you say work? because I could
not do it....

Please give me info if you know about this..

thanks!

 

[kenny]

yes I know about the manual gateway and dns... my worries are about if the
switch will work in such a way. I have never done this before...

thanks

 

[GodBob]

No problem it can support many PCs like that. Have fun!

Eric

 

[kenny]

Chas, what kind of cable should I use in the configuration you propose on
the Pc2 towards the Pc3? Normal or Crossover?

 

[Guest]

Should work just fine. You can't use cross-over cables though. You must use
regular cables.

I know you don't want to here this, but if you are going to purchase a
switch, I'd look into getting a broadband router/switch. This way you don't
need to leave PC1 on all of the time to get internet access. Plus, if PC1
goes down, your Internet connection won't go down.

 

[UnaCoder]

I have a very simular setup to the one in that picture. I have a cheap
8 port switch connected to my five computers. The computer I have
acting as the router/gateway has linux debian installed, which is a
much better suited operating system for acting as a network server. It
also provides dynamic DNS so I don't have to manually configure my PCs
with an address, the gateway gives them addresses. I even have a DNS
server setup so that each PC has its own local domain name.

 

[UnaCoder]

that would be a terrible configuration, while possible I would highly
recomment not doing it. To answer your question you'd use crossover
cables

 

[Doug Sherman [MVP]]

You 'might' be able to make this work if you bridge the connections on
Computer 2:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/hnw_bridge_install.mspx

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

 

[Richard G. Harper]

(Crossposting trimmed)

As Doug has pointed out, this configuration will work just fine. What you
have diagrammed is exactly how ICS is supposed to work.

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[Guest]

I have a very similar setup for my web server.

I have it like this:

Cable Modem>Desktop with 2 NIC and ICS > Wireless Router Connected VIA
Crossover Cable > Other PCs on my network.

It works great. All of the PCs behind the router can see each other and
share files and the printer (on a print server) . The only catch is, as far
as I know, the web server PC can't see the printer or other PCs. There may
be a way to do it, but I don't know.

BMR777
http://www.rusnakweb.com

 

[Guest]

Yes, though why you want to do it this way I don't understand. The box
acting as the 'DMZ' will need to be firewalled as it's the frontline for any
nasty stuff coming your way.

There are advantages in working like that but with a proxy in place of ICS,
as that would allow close control over Internet access, and the option of
advert-filtering, etc. Little point with ICS though, as it offers no real
control.

Or... I'd use a router. ;-)

 

[Papa]

What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest, most
versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my home
network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers are totally
independent of one another in that none of them require that some particular
PC has to be up and running before another computer can access the internet.
Yet they can all share files and share output devices such as printers, not
to mention that adding more PCs to the network is a snap if the router has
enough ports.

Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link DI-624
Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for about $60
right now.

And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.

 

[kenny]

Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst post.
I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.

 

[kenny]

Yes indeed.. this was what I was trying to do.... but for some reason it
would not let me... after shuting down for the night and reading your post
the other day, and tried the same exact thing and it worked....

This is sufficient for my needs which are temporarily connecting a laptop
for a few days

Thanks to everyone for their input.

 

[Papa]

I don't understand. What does a PCI bus have to do with it? A router, such
as the one I described, just needs to connect to a PCs NIC card, which you
apparently already have. My external modem connects to the router, not to a
PC. Granted, it is a broadband modem.

 

[Asher_N]

Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst
post.
I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.

Can you explain why you are so adamant aginst a router?

While your proposed config will work, most of us would not trust a WinXP
computer as the primary firewall to the internet. Plus, ICS can be flaky and
your internet connection will be affected by CPU load on that computer. You
can pick up a refurb router cheaper than a switch. Remeber, those $20 dollar
switches are really not reliable.

 

[kenny]

I did not say PCI, I said Pc1 note that that is a number 1 . If you look
at my illustration on my original post you will understand!