5 pixel yellow square

S

Swifty

I recently installed a Club3D (ATI Radeon HD34350) graphics card.
Since then I get a yellow 5-pixel square at the extreme top left of my
display. It seems to be drawn on top of the desktop background as it
disappears when any other window is on top of it.

If I use "Show Desktop" it dissapears, but comes back with the first
application that I surface, whichever one I chose.

I've updated the video driver to the latest from ATI (8.471) but with no
improvement.

I've contacted ATI, but the fact that the square goes away when I "Show
desktop" seems to imply that it is not a driver problem.
 
S

smlunatick

I recently installed a Club3D (ATI Radeon HD34350) graphics card.
Since then I get a yellow 5-pixel square at the extreme top left of my
display. It seems to be drawn on top of the desktop background as it
disappears when any other window is on top of it.

If I use "Show Desktop" it dissapears, but comes back with the first
application that I surface, whichever one I chose.

I've updated the video driver to the latest from ATI (8.471) but with no
improvement.

I've contacted ATI, but the fact that the square goes away when I "Show
desktop" seems to imply that it is not a driver problem.

Did you also install any of the enhanced features (media player and
hydravision???)
 
S

Swifty

smlunatick said:
Did you also install any of the enhanced features (media player and
hydravision???)

Not intentionally. I did the "Quick Install" (or whatever the one is
that doesn't ask hard questions, such as "Do you want the small yellow
square?"). :)

In "Remove programs" I have:

ATI - Software Uninstall Utility
ATI - AVIVO Codecs
ATI Catalyst Control Center (which manages the Graphics card)
ATI Catalyst Registration
ATI Display Driver

There's no sign of anything else new. I'll probably uninstall AVIVO
Codecs since something has stopped my system speaker from working (the
tiny one fixed inside the PC case, not my soundcard/external speakers,
which are working fine).
 
S

Swifty

Swifty said:
I recently installed a Club3D (ATI Radeon HD34350) graphics card.
Since then I get a yellow 5-pixel square at the extreme top left of my
display. It seems to be drawn on top of the desktop background as it
disappears when any other window is on top of it.

It's a grey square (only looks yellow against my blue desktop) and it
only appears when ATI's "Catalyst" program is running with its "Enable
System Tray Menu" option set. QED.

I also have fairly conclusive proof that installing the ATI drivers
disabled my system speaker somehow (the beeps from Toggle Keys, for
instance).
They stopped working when I rebooted after the ATI install. The hardware
is still fine as the speaker beeps if I press an invalid key in the BIOS
setup.
I've taken part in discussions about the system speaker in the past. I
would never have dreamed that I'd get to the bottom of this problem.

I don't think this behaviour is intentional. There's no obvious option
to control the behaviour. Perhaps loading the ATI drivers was causing
system speaker beeps so some enterprising ATI programmer decided to
suppress the speaker?
 
S

smlunatick

smlunatick wrote:

  > Did you also install any of the enhanced features (media player and


Not intentionally. I did the "Quick Install" (or whatever the one is
that doesn't ask hard questions, such as "Do you want the small yellow
square?"). :)

In "Remove programs" I have:

ATI - Software Uninstall Utility
ATI - AVIVO Codecs
ATI Catalyst Control Center (which manages the Graphics card)
ATI Catalyst Registration
ATI Display Driver

There's no sign of anything else new. I'll probably uninstall AVIVO
Codecs since something has stopped my system speaker from working (the
tiny one fixed inside the PC case, not my soundcard/external speakers,
which are working fine).

The Catalyst Control Center might be what this square is "linked"
with.

Also, I seem to recall that the Catalyst system seems to require
Microsoft's .NET Frameworks.

You could look at this web forum: http://www.guru3d.com/

It deals with a lot of video and video card problems, questions and
tweaking.
 
M

mikeyhsd

known problem with a ati driver release version.
upgrade to 8.2 or 8.3 and it should go away.




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I recently installed a Club3D (ATI Radeon HD34350) graphics card.
Since then I get a yellow 5-pixel square at the extreme top left of my
display. It seems to be drawn on top of the desktop background as it
disappears when any other window is on top of it.

If I use "Show Desktop" it dissapears, but comes back with the first
application that I surface, whichever one I chose.

I've updated the video driver to the latest from ATI (8.471) but with no
improvement.

I've contacted ATI, but the fact that the square goes away when I "Show
desktop" seems to imply that it is not a driver problem.
 
S

Swifty

mikeyhsd said:
known problem with a ati driver release version.
upgrade to 8.2 or 8.3 and it should go away.

I upgraded to Catalyst 8.3 (which included a newer driver) but the
problem (square) didn't go away. I found that suppressing the System
Tray icon got rid of the square.
I got the well-known popup that I was trying to install an older version
of CCC (which paradoxically had only an "OK" button; it most definitely
*wasn't* OK) so I'm unsure what I really have. CCC says that is 8.3, but
can I trust that? The video driver says it is newer than the one I got
from the CD, but is this true?

I still haven't found out if updating the card's BIOS is either possible
or wise.
 
S

smlunatick

I upgraded to Catalyst 8.3 (which included a newer driver) but the
problem (square) didn't go away. I found that suppressing the System
Tray icon got rid of the square.
I got the well-known popup that I was trying to install an older version
of CCC (which paradoxically had only an "OK" button; it most definitely
*wasn't* OK) so I'm unsure what I really have. CCC says that is 8.3, but
can I trust that? The video driver says it is newer than the one I got
from the CD, but is this true?

I still haven't found out if updating the card's BIOS is either possible
or wise.

I'm always afraid on any BIOS updates since failed BIOS updates are
not covered warranties (and some manufacturers void warrantied after
failed BIOS updates.)
 
S

smlunatick

I'm always afraid on any BIOS updates since failed BIOS updates are
not covered warranties (and some manufacturers void warrantied after
failed BIOS updates.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BTW: A quick look up on www.guru3d.com forums seem to indicate that
the square is a known problem with the Catalyst drivers, for sometime
now.
 
M

mikeyhsd

originally it was a driver problem related to catalyst control center.
removing control center (CCC) removed the square.
with 8.2, drivers it was not longer necessary to remove the CCC to remove the square.
with 8.3 the square is gone , for me at least. with or without CCC.








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Swifty said:
known problem with a ati driver release version.
upgrade to 8.2 or 8.3 and it should go away.

I upgraded to Catalyst 8.3 (which included a newer driver) but the
problem (square) didn't go away. I found that suppressing the System
Tray icon got rid of the square.
I got the well-known popup that I was trying to install an older version
of CCC (which paradoxically had only an "OK" button; it most definitely
*wasn't* OK) so I'm unsure what I really have. CCC says that is 8.3, but
can I trust that? The video driver says it is newer than the one I got
from the CD, but is this true?

I still haven't found out if updating the card's BIOS is either possible
or wise.
 
S

Swifty

mikeyhsd said:
originally it was a driver problem related to catalyst control center.
with 8.3 the square is gone , for me at least. with or without CCC.

With my 8.3 the problem was still there, but my 8.3 is compromised
because the installation said I was installing an older version of CCC.

Until I discovered the trick of turning off the system tray icon, I
created a 3M PostIt note and positioned it over the square. It's still
there, and it's definitely yellow, but now I don't mind. :)
 

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