3 Vista Computers, 1 with error message 0x80070005

D

Don

Hello,
I am trying to network 3 computers all running Vista.
Computer 1 can access the shared files on computer 2 and 3.
Computer 2 can access the shared files on computers 1 and 3.
Computer 3 can access on computer 2 but not 1.

Computer 3 when it opens up computer 1 it can see the shared items (with the
pipeline), but when you double click it denies access as folllows:

Windoes cannot access\\computer1\c
Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise there might be a problem with your
network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click Diagnose.

Click See details>
error code 0x80070005
Access is denied.

Click Diagnose>
c was available but the user account you are logged on with was denied
access.

I have permissions set up on computer 1 correctly because computer 2 can
access shared files on computer1.

I am running all computers as administrator.

Any solutions,
TIA
Don
 
M

Malke

Don said:
Hello,
I am trying to network 3 computers all running Vista.
Computer 1 can access the shared files on computer 2 and 3.
Computer 2 can access the shared files on computers 1 and 3.
Computer 3 can access on computer 2 but not 1.

Computer 3 when it opens up computer 1 it can see the shared items (with
the pipeline), but when you double click it denies access as folllows:

Windoes cannot access\\computer1\c
Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise there might be a problem with
your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click
Diagnose.

Click See details>
error code 0x80070005
Access is denied.

Click Diagnose>
c was available but the user account you are logged on with was denied
access.

You probably have forgotten to create matching user accounts/passwords on
all your computers. See below.

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

Note: You should also not be running as administrator for daily work. This
is insecure and unnecessary in Vista. Instead:

You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. You particularly
don't want only one user account with administrative privileges on Vista
because the built-in Administrator account (normally only used in
emergencies) is disabled by default. You should create at minimum two user
accounts: one standard user account that you will use for your daily work
and two administrative accounts for permissions and emergencies. In your
case, create the administrative account - call it "Tech" or "CompAdmin" or
the like - log into it, and change your daily accounts to Standard Users.

If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with
the icons of user accounts, review the method at MVP Ramesh's link above.

Malke
 
D

Don Begezda

Malke said:
You probably have forgotten to create matching user accounts/passwords on
all your computers. See below.

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords
just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot
directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

Note: You should also not be running as administrator for daily work. This
is insecure and unnecessary in Vista. Instead:

You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. You particularly
don't want only one user account with administrative privileges on Vista
because the built-in Administrator account (normally only used in
emergencies) is disabled by default. You should create at minimum two user
accounts: one standard user account that you will use for your daily work
and two administrative accounts for permissions and emergencies. In your
case, create the administrative account - call it "Tech" or "CompAdmin" or
the like - log into it, and change your daily accounts to Standard Users.

If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with
the icons of user accounts, review the method at MVP Ramesh's link above.

Malke

I have set up 3 identical accounts on all machines. ComputerAdmin, Don, and
Guest.
It still is not allowing access.
Any help?
Thanks,
Don
 
D

Don Begezda

Don Begezda said:
I have set up 3 identical accounts on all machines. ComputerAdmin, Don,
and Guest.
It still is not allowing access.
Any help?
Thanks,
Don

OK, I can access the shared files while logged on as "Don" , but not while
logged on as ComputerAdmin.
Help still appreciated.
Don
 
D

Don Begezda

: Don Begezda wrote:
:
: > OK, I can access the shared files while logged on as "Don" , but not
while
: > logged on as ComputerAdmin.
: > Help still appreciated.
: > Don
:
: Did you assign passwords? If not, please do so. This link may help further
: with Vista sharing:
:
: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
:
: Malke
:
All users have assigned passwords.
 
M

Malke

Don said:
: > OK, I can access the shared files while logged on as "Don" , but not
while
: > logged on as ComputerAdmin.
: > Help still appreciated.
: > Don
:
: Did you assign passwords? If not, please do so. This link may help
: further with Vista sharing:
:
: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
All users have assigned passwords.

If you can access shared files while logged on as one user but not another,
then either there is a problem with the user name, user passwords not
matching, or permissions on the share. Since I can't see your computer,
you'll need to double-check all of that.

Make sure your user account was not simply renamed "ComputerAdmin" and the
underlying account isn't something different. This commonly happens on OEM
machines where the actual user account is something like "HP_Administrator"
or "Owner" and the user renames it instead of creating a new account with
their name. Check all machines for typos.

Remove the passwords and recreate them. You may have made a typo.

Check permissions. The TechNet link I gave you (quoted above) shows clearly
how to set advanced permissions so that Everyone (which means every account
on the local system) can access a share.

Malke
 
D

Don Begezda

Malke said:
If you can access shared files while logged on as one user but not
another,
then either there is a problem with the user name, user passwords not
matching, or permissions on the share. Since I can't see your computer,
you'll need to double-check all of that.

Make sure your user account was not simply renamed "ComputerAdmin" and the
underlying account isn't something different. This commonly happens on OEM
machines where the actual user account is something like
"HP_Administrator"
or "Owner" and the user renames it instead of creating a new account with
their name.

How do I manage this underlying account vs. renamed account? In other words
how do I know which account might have an underlying account? How do I find
this on the computers? BTW, this is all very confusing. Don
 
M

Malke

Don said:
How do I manage this underlying account vs. renamed account? In other
words how do I know which account might have an underlying account? How do
I find
this on the computers? BTW, this is all very confusing. Don

Assuming your Windows install is on C:, look in C:\Users and you'll see all
the user accounts on the system. These will show the true names. But I
would think that you would remember if you did this; i.e., went to Control
Panel>User Accounts and changed a name instead of creating a new account. I
only mentioned it to be thorough.

Malke
 
D

Don Begezda

Malke said:
Assuming your Windows install is on C:, look in C:\Users and you'll see
all
the user accounts on the system. These will show the true names. But I
would think that you would remember if you did this; i.e., went to Control
Panel>User Accounts and changed a name instead of creating a new account.
I
only mentioned it to be thorough.

I thought I did the same thing on each of the three computers, all done
through Control Panel, but I have three different results.

On computer one I have 4 C:\Users: Default, Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control panel there are two users Don, and ComputerAdmin
On computer two I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control Panel I have Don and ComputerAdmin
On computer three I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Svetlana, and Public. (I
honestly don't remember creating the User Svetlana)
In Control Panel I have Don and ComputerAdmin.

How do I coordinate the computer Users so they are all the same? Do I do it
through Control Panel, or via C:\Users?
How do I know which are the true Administrator accounts? Do I delete all
Users and start from scratch? Sorry I don't know where to start.
Thanks for the help,
Don
 
D

Don

Ignore last message, see updated question below.
I thought I did the same thing on each of the three computers, all done
through Control Panel, but I have three different results.

On computer one I have 4 C:\Users: Default, Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control panel there are three users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer two I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control Panel I have three Users, Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer three I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Svetlana, and Public. (I
honestly don't remember creating the User Svetlana)
In Control Panel I have three Users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin.

How do I coordinate the computer Users so they are all the same? Do I do it
through Control Panel, or via C:\Users?
How do I know which are the true Administrator accounts? Do I delete all
Users and start from scratch? Sorry I don't know where to start.
Thanks for the help,
Don
 
M

Malke

Don said:
I thought I did the same thing on each of the three computers, all done
through Control Panel, but I have three different results.

On computer one I have 4 C:\Users: Default, Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control panel there are three users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer two I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control Panel I have three Users, Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer three I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Svetlana, and Public. (I
honestly don't remember creating the User Svetlana)
In Control Panel I have three Users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin.

How do I coordinate the computer Users so they are all the same? Do I do
it through Control Panel, or via C:\Users?
How do I know which are the true Administrator accounts? Do I delete all
Users and start from scratch? Sorry I don't know where to start.

The built-in Administrator account in Vista is disabled by default so you
don't need to worry about it.

Public is part of the system, so you don't need to think about that one.

Guest is a system account and should be disabled. You will check this in
Control Panel>User Accounts. It isn't an account that you'll use.

So you are left with Don, Don_2, ComputerAdmin, and Svetlana on the various
machines.

When you go to the Welcome Screen on all computers, are there user accounts
for Don, Don_2, ComputerAdmin, and Svetlana? It sounds rather like you
created the Svetlana account and then renamed it to ComputerAdmin.

The simplest and most low-tech way of finding out which account is which is
to log into one of the administrative accounts you are sure of (or create a
new one just for this test) and create text files with Notepad. You might
want to have one text file say "Svetlana" and copy it into Svetlana's
Documents, one text file say "ComputerAdmin" and copy it to ComputerAdmin's
Documents, etc. Copy the file into each user's Documents folder by
navigating to:

Computer>C:\Users\name-of-user\Documents. You'll get a UAC prompt saying you
don't have permission to enter that directory - provide a password for
elevation if applicable, OK the prompt and continue.

Then log into each account and see if your file is there and whether the
name you typed matches the login name. Or you could forget about it and
just go to each computer and create users:

Don
Don_2
Svetlana
ComputerAdmin (where that particular user is missing from that computer)

You never need to log into the extra accounts. Create matching passwords for
all of them. On the accounts where you've already created passwords, redo
them so you are sure you've gotten them right. This means that on all the
computers the password for the Don account must be the same, the password
for the ComputerAdmin account must be the same, etc. If you wind up with
extra user accounts that aren't active, I wouldn't worry about it.

Malke
 
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Cheshiremanuk

Hi ive exactly the same problem - 3 computers, 2 sharing fine with each
other and both can access files on the 3rd. The 3rd computer acknowledges
that the other 2 exist but cant open any files. FTR I only have the one user
accont on each
 

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