I have a laptop that runs XP Professional that is a member of a domain at
work. I would like to set up a home network in which I would like to connect
a computer that's running XP Media Edition 2005. How can I do this?
Are you saying that, even though I'm a member of a domain at work currently,
I can also join a workgroup for the home network, too?
I've created a workgroup name on the
home computer with the same name as the domain of
the work computer. I've created an administrator account
on the home computer with the same name and password
as the account on the work computer. However, I
simply renamed an existing account on the home computer to
match the account on the work computer. I have the
following observations:
Home computer:
• when I left click on my network places, I can see
the shared folders on the work computer, but none
are accessible
• when I click on workgroups from the home computer,
the work computer is not visible (however, I don't
know if it should be)
Work computer:
• The shared folder on the home computer is
accessible, but I never did anything to allow it
beyond running the Network Setup Wizard. Is the
folder simply available to anybody?
• What I left click on my network places-entire
network-Microsoft windows network-(workgroup)-(home
computer) appears
In summary, 1) I can access the shared folder on the
home computer from my work computer just fine, but
I'm concerned that anybody has access to that folder. I
don't think it's any big deal for the home network,
but I am concerned about potential problems from the
internet. I really don't know anything about
workgroup security. Also, 2) shared folders of the work
computer are visible on the home computer, but are
inaccessible.
Before I tried to diagnose the problem with "browstat status", I looked at
the situation on both computers one more time. I understand your statement
about separating the problem into visibility and accessibility. Focusing on
visibility, I took a look at My Network Places on both computers one more
time. As I looked at each computer again, I concluded that I could see the
shared folders on each computer. However, they looked different from each
other.
When I left clicked on My Network Places on the work computer, the items I
saw included "Entire Network", the server at work, and the shared documents
folder on the home computer (Chuck, because I can't attach anything to this
message, I'm e-mailing these screenshots directly to you). When I click on
"Entire Network", eventually the home computer appears in the shared
documents appear. While it didn't do this last time, when I clicked on the
shared documents folder either after "Entire Network" or directly after left
clicking on My Network Places, this time a window popped up and asked me for
my username and password. Just for the heck of it, I put in an account on the
home computer that didn't match an account on the work computer. It accepted
that account, and I could view the files in the shared folders on the home
computer from the work computer.
When I left clicked on My Network Places from the home computer, the shared
folders from my work computer appeared. I wasn't able to access any files on
my work computer from my home computer. This is unchanged from before.
Thus, I believe both computers are visible to each other, but in different
ways.
Chuck, two things:
1-I'm thinking the ball is in your court. Is that correct, or is there
something I should be doing?
2-I really don't know what you mean by "I'll advise you to post your
answers after mine." I'm not sure what I should do. In replying to your last
message I did delete all the prior messages.
Ken W said:I guess I still don't know what I need to do you to post after your answers.
I'm using Microsoft's reader and I just click on "reply". Should I be doing
something differently?
As you requested, following your instructions, this is the result on the
work computer running XP Professional:
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\JANET
\\WOLFEKE Ken Wolfe
The command completed successfully.
Below is the home computer, running XP Media Edition:
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\JANET
\\WOLFEKE Ken Wolfe
The command completed successfully.
I guess I still don't know what I need to do you to post after your answers.
I'm using Microsoft's reader and I just click on "reply". Should I be doing
something differently?
As you requested, following your instructions, this is the result on the
work computer running XP Professional:
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\JANET
\\WOLFEKE Ken Wolfe
The command completed successfully.
Below is the home computer, running XP Media Edition:
Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\JANET
\\WOLFEKE Ken Wolfe
The command completed successfully.
Thanks for the instructions on how to post under a message. I think I did itChuck said:OK, Ken,
I covered (hopefully tested) the bottom posting issue in my other post. So
let's address the problem.
So both computers see each other, in "net view".
Now "net view" gives a high level view of the network, from each computer. To
diagnose this problem, we need "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
Thanks for the instructions on how to post under a message. I think I did it
this time. Hopefully, it worked.
Here are the results for the work computer, running windows XP Professional
SP2:
Chuck said:<SNIP>
Ken,
You nailed it. The posting anyway.
The diagnostics, so far, are clean.
# Both computers on same physical segment 192.168.1.0/24.
# Both computers in same workgroup "HORIZONTECH", acknowledging the same master
browser "WOLFEKE", and seeing 2 computers.
# Both computers showing NetBT, neither hidden.
Let's do relational analysis. Take the following code (everything INSIDE the
"#####" lines). Please DO NOT include ANY portion of the "#####" lines. (Please
verify computer names and ip addresses).
1. Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight
then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste (Ctrl-V)
into Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
2. Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root
folder "C:\".
3. Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
4. Wait patiently.
5. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and
ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A
Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.
Do this from all computers, please, with all computers powered up and online.
##### Start CDiag Assembled Code
@echo off
set FullTarget1=WOLFEKE 192.168.1.102
set FullTarget2=JANET 192.168.1.106
set FullTarget3=
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1
Set Version=V1.40
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Over All Analysis >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Enumerate Shares >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net share >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Adhoc Browser View >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets Analysis %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets Analysis %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF
##### End CDiag Assembled Code
I explicitly enabled NetBT per your instructions on both computers. TheyChuck said:<BIG SNIP>
OK, Ken,
CDiag shows 2 positives:
# WOLFEKE cannot "net view" itself by IP address - neither as "192.168.1.102",
nor as "127.0.0.1".
# JANET, on the other hand, CAN "net view" WOLFEKE, as "192.168.1.102".
First, is NetBT explicitly Enabled on WOLFEKE?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
Next, are there any misconfigured or overlooked personal firewalls, or other
security component on WOLFEKE? There are several other possibilities too, and
any might be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open mind.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
Finally, we'll look at LSP / Winsock / TCP/IP corruption.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html
I explicitly enabled NetBT per your instructions on both computers. They
were both set to default. I then tried to read shared folders of the work
computer (WOLFEKE) from the home computer (JANET) (you may recall that it
seems to work fine the other way - work (WOLFEKE) is able to read and write
files on home (JANET)). All of the shared folders that I created on WOLFEKE
were not accessible, but the WOLFEKE\SHARE folder that XP created was both
read and write accessible. It's possible that it's always been this way
because I never checked every shared folder before, but there is definitely,
at least now, a difference between shared folders that I created and the
shared folder that XP created on the work computer (WOLFEKE).
I didn't try your other suggestions below making sure NetBT was enabled on
both machines because I didn't think it was relevant anymore in light of the
information I learned in the previous paragraph.
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