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Grok said:
If the computer is not connected to the Internet, installing SP2 will
pretty much cover the update needs across the board. Although, if at
some point he connects to the Internet, his first visit should be to
Windows Update, as even with SP2 installed surfing is not safe until
the Windows installation is patched even beyond SP2. There was that
issue with the graphics engine exploit and so on that leaves a
surfing system open to compromise.
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There has been over 40 critical security patches to XP XP2 in the year
and a half since it has been released.
I wouldn't recommend Netscape nor Firefox. as a security solution. If
a compromised graphic is downloaded - even by Netscape - then, say,
viewed later using the built in graphics system, the machine will be
compromised if without the latest Windows patches anyway. And then
one has to worry about making sure Netscape is patched as well as
Windows and so on, because Mozilla Netscape and Mozilla FireFox has
its own host of vulnerabilities ..
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Nothing is perfect, however with Firefox you do get a smaller target!

Since IE is used on 85% of the world's computers, it is a much more
tempting target for malware writers.

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kurttrail wrote:
| Grok wrote:
|
|| |
| There has been over 40 critical security patches to XP XP2 in the year
| and a half since it has been released.
|

Yes, but if the computer is not connected to the Internet nor to computers
that are - a closed circuit - these updates are not as pressingly critical.

I could run Windows XP original rtm without a single patch and be fine if
everything worked, and if say, I didn't connect to the Internet and kept it
to my own stuff. It's when the machine interacts with the world "out there"
in some way that the security patching becomes important.

The OP said that his machine is not connected to the Internet, so the risk
is significantly reduced. He knows his situation best though. Maybe he needs
those patches, maybe he knows he doesn't.
 
kurttrail wrote:
| Jack wrote:
|
|| Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non
|| using MS programs in XP.
|
| No, but it is reliable to gut out some of the bloat of XP, IF and only
| if you know what you are doing.
|
|| Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not
|| use, to give me more speed.
|
| Very little speed gain. You'd want to upgrade the hardware to really
| gain appreciable speed gain.
|
| About the only time I've ever seen an appreciable amount of speed gain
| by uninstalling software was when I dumped Symantec's NAV!

Funny, my customers see speed gains too when I have them dump NAV ..
 
Grok said:
Yes, but if the computer is not connected to the Internet nor to
computers that are - a closed circuit - these updates are not as
pressingly critical.

I could run Windows XP original rtm without a single patch and be
fine if everything worked, and if say, I didn't connect to the
Internet and kept it to my own stuff. It's when the machine interacts
with the world "out there" in some way that the security patching
becomes important.

The OP said that his machine is not connected to the Internet, so the
risk is significantly reduced. He knows his situation best though.
Maybe he needs those patches, maybe he knows he doesn't.
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The Updating was brought up by Bobby. I was just correcting his BS that
IE is needed to patch windows. And when you said that SP2 is all that
is necessary, I wan't to make sure that others reading this thread would
act on your advice with computer that are connected.

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Jack said:
Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non
using MS programs in XP.

Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not
use, to give me more speed.

Thanks,
Jack
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Take a look at nLite.

http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html

It does the same thing and is free. It is suggested to make a donation if
you use the program. I have used it. It works as advertised. As many others
have already posted it may cause problems with updates and other things. It
will not speed up your computer to any great degree. Perhaps if you posted
more details about your system and what programs you need to run faster you
would get some useful suggestions that would help you to solve the problem.

Kerry
 
peter said:
You want more speed.............install more RAM!!
nothing increases speed like RAM
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This is an incorrect and extremely misleading statement.If you don't have
enough RAM to keep you from using the page file significantly, adding more
is the best thing you can do increase performance. If you do have enough,
adding more accomplishes nothing and is a waste of money.

You get good performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using
the page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people running a
typical range of business applications find that somewhere around 256-384MB
works well, others need 512MB. Almost anyone will see poor performance with
less than 256MB. Some people, particularly those doing things like editing
large photographic images, can see a performance boost by adding even more
than 512MB--sometimes much more.

If you are currently using the page file significantly, more memory will
decrease or eliminate that usage, and improve your performance. If you are
not using the page file significantly, more memory will do nothing for you.
Go to http://billsway.com/notes_public/winxp_tweaks/ and download
WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your pagefile usage. That should give you
a good idea of whether more memory can help, and if so, how much more.


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Well, I guess I stirred up a hornet's nest on this one.

More data:
This computer is only used for WordPerfect Office Legal and only used for
legal docs. which run many pages.

MSI K8T mother bd.
AMD 64 Sempron 2600+

Drives C: 60GB, D:30GB & E:40GB

D: used for Imaging Only

E: used for Backup Only

XP SP2 Installed, never been on line, no updates, Every thing has been
un-installed that is not needed except for WPO & Acronis. Nothing running in
Sys Tray except ATI Video. No need for NAV or ZoneAlarm, etc. Only other
program is Acronis for Imaging.

This is a doc producing computer only, not connected to any other computer
or network.

Jack
 
Jack said:
Well, I guess I stirred up a hornet's nest on this one.

More data:
This computer is only used for WordPerfect Office Legal and only used
for legal docs. which run many pages.

MSI K8T mother bd.
AMD 64 Sempron 2600+

Drives C: 60GB, D:30GB & E:40GB

D: used for Imaging Only

E: used for Backup Only

XP SP2 Installed, never been on line, no updates, Every thing has been
un-installed that is not needed except for WPO & Acronis. Nothing
running in Sys Tray except ATI Video. No need for NAV or ZoneAlarm,
etc. Only other program is Acronis for Imaging.

This is a doc producing computer only, not connected to any other
computer or network.

Jack
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Paring down the installed Windows applications won't speed up this to any
great degree. With a system as described above and 1 GB of ram described in
another post it shouldn't be slow. If it is something is misconfigured
somewhere. The only advantage to removing some of the unnecessary Windows
stuff would be to stop employees from using it. This could easily be
accomplished with group policy or local policy. I have some experience,
although not direct, with using Word Perfect in a legal office. I used to do
hardware support for a consultant to the legal industry. I know she switched
over from Word Perfect to Word several years ago because of speed issues.
She had heavily customised boiler plate templates and ran into speed
problems with Word Perfect. There were other issues like her largest client
being bought out by a firm that used Word but I believe speed was the
deciding factor. This was also when 1.0 GHz Piii's were current. With your
setup if speed is an issue then I really suspect something setup wrong.

Kerry
 
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