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Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non using MS
programs in XP.

Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not use, to
give me more speed.

Thanks,
Jack
 
The author claims it can reduce a WindowsXP by un-installing everything not
needed, which reduces the XP down to a bare OS. This includes OE, IE, and
all MS programs. This is done by shutting OFF the Windows Protection system
and then turning it back on after re-boot.

I have been told nothing will un-install the MS programs, that is why I
asked the newsgroup.

I do not need anything except my WordPerfect Office Suite. The computer
is not connected to the Internet, nor does it run any other software.

Jack
 
What happened to you Add\Remove or the Uninstall Tool that comes with some 3rd party software

If you are trying to trim down XP with a 3rd party software that claims to remove some parts of XP that you do not want or use and it is not listed in Add\Remove then you are playing with fire and it is not a very smart thing to do.
Only the Uninstall Tool of a program or the ones listed in Add\Remove are safe to do so.
 
Jack wrote:
| Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non using
| MS programs in XP.
|
| Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not use,
| to give me more speed.
|
| Thanks,
| Jack

Um .. hm .. I doubt there's a tremendous speed gain.. You might gain some
harddrive space, but to what end? With multi gigabyte harddrives what you
gain in space would be insignificant. Better would be to ramp up the RAM.
Moving to 512 or 1GB would almost eliminate disk thrashing and make for
quicker load times and snappy performance.

Also:

Make sure harddrives are defragmented
DMA is ON
Number of unnecessary third party apps are not running on Startup (it seems
as if everything one install wants to run at Startup)
 
I think I'll try it, can always format the hard disk and re-install XP, all
your suggestions have been kept up with and only program running under the
add/install is WPO. Trying to get the speed back to where we used to have it
when there was no Windows and we used DOS WordPerfect for our legal docs &
work. By the way it is running 3 hard disks totaling 130 GB. We Image once
at end of day and backup constantly by using DOS XCOPY from a Batch File.
(Very fast when using the DOS for backup, does it in less than a 10 seconds
with very large document files.)

Jack
 
You're going to end up with issues with
Windows Update because it will look
for system files to update that are not present...

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:

| I think I'll try it, can always format the hard disk and re-install XP, all
| your suggestions have been kept up with and only program running under the
| add/install is WPO. Trying to get the speed back to where we used to have it
| when there was no Windows and we used DOS WordPerfect for our legal docs &
| work. By the way it is running 3 hard disks totaling 130 GB. We Image once
| at end of day and backup constantly by using DOS XCOPY from a Batch File.
| (Very fast when using the DOS for backup, does it in less than a 10 seconds
| with very large document files.)
|
| Jack
 
Jack said:
Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non using
MS programs in XP.

Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not use,
to give me more speed.

Thanks,
Jack
Click to expand...
Getting rid of unused Windows components will not give you more speed. It
may reduce boot time and reduce hits to the pagefile, but you wont get any
additional speed. You are pretty much limited to the speed your processor,
RAM and motherboard can deliver.

Bobby
 
Jack said:
The author claims it can reduce a WindowsXP by un-installing everything
not needed, which reduces the XP down to a bare OS. This includes OE, IE,
and all MS programs. This is done by shutting OFF the Windows Protection
system and then turning it back on after re-boot.

I have been told nothing will un-install the MS programs, that is why I
asked the newsgroup.

I do not need anything except my WordPerfect Office Suite. The computer
is not connected to the Internet, nor does it run any other software.

Jack

Plato said:
Ask the Author of the program.
Click to expand...
Without IE, you cannot update Windows.You claim to be concerned with system
bloat and then state you use WordPerfect Office Suite, which is a huge
resource hog and bloater.

I have a suggestion...either get a computer capable of running Windows, or
switch to something like Linspire. If neither of those seem practice or
logical to you, then I suggest you stop being so anal about windows.

Bobby
Click to expand...
 
Jack said:
I think I'll try it, can always format the hard disk and re-install XP, all
your suggestions have been kept up with and only program running under the
add/install is WPO. Trying to get the speed back to where we used to have
it when there was no Windows and we used DOS WordPerfect for our legal docs
& work. By the way it is running 3 hard disks totaling 130 GB. We Image
once at end of day and backup constantly by using DOS XCOPY from a Batch
File. (Very fast when using the DOS for backup, does it in less than a 10
seconds with very large document files.)

Jack


Grok said:
Jack wrote:
| Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non
using
| MS programs in XP.
|
| Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not
use,
| to give me more speed.
|
| Thanks,
| Jack

Um .. hm .. I doubt there's a tremendous speed gain.. You might gain some
harddrive space, but to what end? With multi gigabyte harddrives what you
gain in space would be insignificant. Better would be to ramp up the RAM.
Moving to 512 or 1GB would almost eliminate disk thrashing and make for
quicker load times and snappy performance.

Also:

Make sure harddrives are defragmented
DMA is ON
Number of unnecessary third party apps are not running on Startup (it
seems
as if everything one install wants to run at Startup)
Click to expand...

Here is a news flash:

Windows XP is *NOT* DOS.

DOS is *NOT* Windows XP.

Seems to me your issue is that you dislike waiting for backups...then you
answered your own question. If you liked the performance of WP and DOS,
then *RUN* WP and DOS.
You cannot expect an advance OS like Windows XP to act like or perform like
DOS.
Your expectations are unreal.

Bobby
Click to expand...
 
Other than the fact that you have 3 HD totaling 130gb and 1g of RAM you have
not given us any specs of your system.
Hell...I am at home not in an Office/Work environment and I have 1 gig of
RAM and each of two of my HD 's are 120gb.
Speed comes from a lot of things....HD free space...HD speed....HD
connection speed(SATA vs EIDE)...CPU power.....amount of RAM...speed of
RAM....MOBO chipset.....not to mention fragmentation of HD and Software
used.

Maybe its time to re-evaluate the system and software.

But....nothing increases your speed quicker than doubling your RAM
peter
 
Jack said:
Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non using
MS programs in XP.

Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not use,
to give me more speed.
Click to expand...
I tried it once and my system got messed up and it was hard to uninstall. I
think if there was any real benefits to it it would be more popular.

But contrary to needing IE to update your system, you don't. Go to
bigfix.com and download BigFix (free). When you run it, it will scan your
system and advise you of any updates you need and provide a description of
what it is and why you need it. Then you can download them direct from your
desktop and it's faster than using the M$ site. I keep active X disabled and
I'm not going to inconvenience myself just to use the stupid Windows Update
site. It's not trustworthy.

Otherwise I agree with what you've been told.
 
XPLite is nothing more than an Graphical interface to Uninstall commands.
Just as you can remove Windows Messenger with:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

However, removing XP components won't make the system faster or
more responsive. The chances of "Breaking" something will increase as
XP is a platform and there are many intertwined functions that depend
on each other.

Best to modify XP with the CP's Add/Remove applet, sub-option Add
Remove Windows Components. That can be expanded by modifying
the Sysoc.Inf. Whatever you attempt to do, be sure to have your XP
system partition imaged. The "Shoot-Yourself-in-the-Foot" rating for
this operation is at least an 6-7 (out of 10).

Might be better to just remove the icons for those functions you don't
want on your setup.
 
yes it is. used to remove media player 9, using 6.4 now. but you must be
careful. some actions cannot be reversable.
 
NoNoBadDog! said:
Jack said:
The author claims it can reduce a WindowsXP by un-installing
everything not needed, which reduces the XP down to a bare OS. This
includes OE, IE, and all MS programs. This is done by shutting OFF
the Windows Protection system and then turning it back on after
re-boot. I have been told nothing will un-install the MS programs,
that is
why I asked the newsgroup.

I do not need anything except my WordPerfect Office Suite. The
computer is not connected to the Internet, nor does it run any other
software. Jack


Without IE, you cannot update Windows.You claim to be concerned with
system bloat and then state you use WordPerfect Office Suite, which
is a huge resource hog and bloater.

I have a suggestion...either get a computer capable of running
Windows, or switch to something like Linspire. If neither of those
seem practice or logical to you, then I suggest you stop being so
anal about windows.
Bobby
Click to expand...

IE is only necessary to download the updates, unless you only install
SPs.

I since the OP said, "The computer is not connected to the Internet," it
is a pretty good assumption that the OP has access to another computer
that does.

And I don't use IE to download MS patches. I use Netscape and Firefox.

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Carey said:
You're going to end up with issues with
Windows Update because it will look
for system files to update that are not present...
Click to expand...

The computer isn't connected to the internet, so Windows Update isn't
gonna work at all!

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kurttrail wrote:
| NoNoBadDog! wrote:
|
|| ||| The author claims it can reduce a WindowsXP by un-installing
||| everything not needed, which reduces the XP down to a bare OS. This
||| includes OE, IE, and all MS programs. This is done by shutting OFF
||| the Windows Protection system and then turning it back on after
||| re-boot. I have been told nothing will un-install the MS programs,
||| that is
||| why I asked the newsgroup.
|||
||| I do not need anything except my WordPerfect Office Suite. The
||| computer is not connected to the Internet, nor does it run any other
||| software. Jack
|||
||| |||| Jack wrote:
|||||
||||| Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non
||||| using MS
||||| programs in XP.
||||
|||| Ask the Author of the program.
||||
|||| --
|||| http://www.bootdisk.com/
||||
|||
|||
|| Without IE, you cannot update Windows.You claim to be concerned with
|| system bloat and then state you use WordPerfect Office Suite, which
|| is a huge resource hog and bloater.
||
|| I have a suggestion...either get a computer capable of running
|| Windows, or switch to something like Linspire. If neither of those
|| seem practice or logical to you, then I suggest you stop being so
|| anal about windows.
|| Bobby
|
| IE is only necessary to download the updates, unless you only install
| SPs.
|
| I since the OP said, "The computer is not connected to the Internet," it
| is a pretty good assumption that the OP has access to another computer
| that does.
|
| And I don't use IE to download MS patches. I use Netscape and Firefox.

If the computer is not connected to the Internet, installing SP2 will pretty
much cover the update needs across the board. Although, if at some point he
connects to the Internet, his first visit should be to Windows Update, as
even with SP2 installed surfing is not safe until the Windows installation
is patched even beyond SP2. There was that issue with the graphics engine
exploit and so on that leaves a surfing system open to compromise.

I wouldn't recommend Netscape nor Firefox. as a security solution. If a
compromised graphic is downloaded - even by Netscape - then, say, viewed
later using the built in graphics system, the machine will be compromised if
without the latest Windows patches anyway. And then one has to worry about
making sure Netscape is patched as well as Windows and so on, because
Mozilla Netscape and Mozilla FireFox has its own host of vulnerabilities ..
 
Jack said:
Can anybody tell me if this software is reliable to get rid of non
using MS programs in XP.
Click to expand...

No, but it is reliable to gut out some of the bloat of XP, IF and only
if you know what you are doing.
Would like to get rid of everything that MS has in XP that I do not
use, to give me more speed.
Click to expand...

Very little speed gain. You'd want to upgrade the hardware to really
gain appreciable speed gain.

About the only time I've ever seen an appreciable amount of speed gain
by uninstalling software was when I dumped Symantec's NAV!

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