XP Wont Boot after update

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Guest

I just built a new PC and installed windows XP pro on it and everything is
fine until i update it via windows update and i only install the security
updates and upon reboot the PC gets to the Logo screen then flashes something
way to fast to read and reboots... and keeps doing this over and over until i
use my XP disk to repair windows... when i boot in safe mode it stops at
mup.sys... someone please give some advice... i cant run windows without
updating it
 
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peter

It takes about 3 seconds for XP to get infected after connecting to the
net....unless you have AntiVirus software installed first.A good 3rd party
Firewall is also recommended.
peter
 
D

Daave

peter said:
It takes about 3 seconds for XP to get infected after connecting to
the net....unless you have AntiVirus software installed first.

I thought the vast majority of viruses were contracted by the user
actively clicking on an executable. What are the other ways, and is this
"3 seconds" time frame literal?
 
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LilBoyBlue

It takes about 3 seconds for XP to get infected after connecting to the
net....unless you have AntiVirus software installed first.A good 3rd party
Firewall is also recommended.
peter
Your position is bogus to say the least. I'm connected via DSL and have
NEVER had ANY anti-virus software installed. I've been using the internet for
over ten years and have NEVER had a virus and probably (hopefully) will
NEVER have one. Rethink your position, sir. Anti-virus is 99% HYPE and 1%
fact.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Daave said:
I thought the vast majority of viruses were contracted by the user
actively clicking on an executable. What are the other ways, and is
this "3 seconds" time frame literal?


You are generally correct. However there are worms like Blaster and its
variants which you can get directly, and very quickly. But the main
protection against these is a firewall, not an anti-virus program.
 
O

Ork .

I would reinstall (clean) W-Xp Pro.
Then install upgrades one or two at a time.
SP-2 first..
 
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Daave

Strange. This was posted via the MS news server and wound up in a black
hole! Reposting using another server...

You are generally correct. However there are worms like Blaster and
its variants which you can get directly, and very quickly. But the
main protection against these is a firewall, not an anti-virus
program.

I have never gotten a virus. True, I run anti-virus software, but
still I suspect even without it, I probably wouldn't get one. The only
reason I still run AV is because nothing is ever 100%, and I'd rather be
safe than sorry.

To me, safe hex involves avoiding dodgy Web sites (porn, warez, etc.),
staying away from "freeware" which contains spyware, enabling the
viewing of extensions -- so if I believe I am downloading an MP3 file, I
know it is indeed one (I always scan the file, too, before I click on
it... better safe than sorry...), turning the preview pane off in my
e-mail client and examining the message source before opening anything
that looks suspicious (a good way to deal with phishing if you know what
to look for), never clicking on an e-mail attachment (I always save to
hard drive--and only if I am expecting it, then the usual noting of the
extension followed by scan). Anit-spyware apps like AdAware, Spybot
Search & Destroy, and SpywareBlaster are also helpful.

My understanding is that Blaster and its variants exploit a security
hole which has been patched. Still, installing XP and going online
before downloading and installing all the necessary patches without a
firewall enabled can be risky, I suppose. But specifically, how can a
user get infected with one of these worms? What is the mechanism?
Peter's "3 seconds" statement seemed to me to be sensationalistic, but I
am open to all ideas.
 
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LilBoyBlue


Just a short lesson is reality. Like I stated in my original post;
I've been using the internet over ten years and have NEVER had a virus.
In addition, I've NEVER used an installed virus program.
Are you insinuating I'm lying ?? No need for that, I just wouldn't post. Ten years
virus free makes me a fool ?? Just because you CAN'T do it doesn't mean it's
the same for others.
I have zero problems with someone using an anti- virus program. Just
keep in mind the many problems and resources associated with various
anti-virus programs. The problem are CONTINUOUS, the resource usage
HUGE. You may, but I DON'T NEED NO STINK'IN ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM.
AR
 
G

Guest

ok guys let me start over... I have had my copy of windows xp pro w/ SP2 for
over a year now... it is not defective.... i ran it fine on my old PC... i
built a new pc and i know for a fact that unless im getting virus's from
microsoft.com that it is not a issue with anti virus... also i have repaired
and retested the senario numerous times... truth be told i bought vista for
my new PC but am so pissed off with none of my games working or nTune for my
SLI680i chipset that i decided to go back to XP for a few more months, even
tho this is a SP2 disk there are still almost 80 security updates out there
for a fresh install, i would be here for hours if i went through them 1 at a
time... I see a lot of people are having problems with mup.sys errors and no
one seems to know how to fix it... i am however the first thread iv seen with
the problem occuring after update...

and i am sorry but the theorys of wurms and virus's attacking your PC as
soon as you connect to the internet with no interaction are both media
propaganda and ludacris... at the worst case senerio you will catch a wurm
through untusted email but that still requires interaction... please believe
me as someone with a degree in network security.
 
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Guest

well i seemed to get it working so far... i repaired the system uninstalled
the drivers for my hardware and installed the updates 10-15 at a time... and
i now have all the updates installed and am about to re-install my drivers
and pray it wasn't one of my srivers causing the problem
 

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