XP Pro - How'd I get hacked

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That is surely the best way. Which makes me wonder why Microsoft
Sigh. You've always been able to download patches and upgrades from
Microsoft. The reason for the direct download is to lighten the burden
of huge downloads for dialup users. Lots of other software mftrs. use
this method also, where the installer downloads a small stub and then
checks to see what components are actually needed and only downloads
the necessary files.
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So am I wrong when I remember several occasions trying to download
upgrades for Internet Explorer to my harddrive, only to find that
I had to use that damn installer file that connects to the
Microsoft site and downloads and installs in one operation?

I grant you, sometimes the full download of upgrades and patches
is available *somewhere* on the Microsoft site, generally for the
benefit of commercial customers, but you'd need to be Einstein to
find it.
 
That is surely the best way. Which makes me wonder why Microsoft doesn't want us to be able to do this with Microsoft software. They try to force their users to install software directly from the Internet, rather than letting them download it to their harddrive or CD, and install it later off-line.
Why blame Microsoft just because you lack the basic ability to find your way around their site? Updates, patches, and service packs have *always* been readily available for downloading to the hard drive and off-line installation. And when Microsoft adds an automated update service to help those less adept at navigating the web, such as yourself, and you accuse them of "forcing" the issue? Why not just admit that you've made up your mind to hate all things Microsoft, and aren't going to let either the facts or logic influence your decision?
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I'm not that much of a beginner when it comes to finding software,
but there have been many times when I've looked in vain for a full
download of some Microsoft offering. Maybe it existed somewhere,
but it wasn't simple to locate. Take the IE upgrades. You go to
Download.com or some other download site, and the link takes you
to the little MS installer, not to the actual software program you
want to download. Why? Because Microsoft wants us to install
directly over the Internet, because that gives them more control
over what we do with the software. They don't care that this
method is not only less convenient, but less secure -- they just
want to control what we do.
 
Take the IE upgrades. You go to
Download.com or some other download site, and the link takes you
to the little MS installer, not to the actual software program you
want to download. Why? Because Microsoft wants us to install
directly over the Internet,
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You need to start looking under the security section of the MS web site,
I always find the down-loadable versions there. I have to have them,
since I support clients I have to be able to burn them to CD.
 
Al Smith wrote:

I'm not that much of a beginner when it comes to finding software, but
there have been many times when I've looked in vain for a full download
of some Microsoft offering. Maybe it existed somewhere, but it wasn't
simple to locate. Take the IE upgrades. You go to Download.com or some
other download site, and the link takes you to the little MS installer,
not to the actual software program you want to download.
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The tricky one to find is the full IE download (to be used if you want
to upgrade to IE 6.0 SP1 if you have a earlier version of IE:

How to download internet explorer 6 sp1
http://www.broomeman.com/support/wsiedown.html

Downloading Internet Explorer For A Different Operating System
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=174680

Why? Because
Microsoft wants us to install directly over the Internet, because that
gives them more control over what we do with the software. They don't
care that this method is not only less convenient, but less secure --
they just want to control what we do.
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??? How can Microsoft control what you do with the software any
differently if a software update only downloads what is relevant for
your computer (the Internet installation) compared to having a full
offline install. The end result that is installed on your computer
will be the same any way.
 
Al said:
I'm not that much of a beginner when it comes to finding software, but
there have been many times when I've looked in vain for a full download
of some Microsoft offering. Maybe it existed somewhere, but it wasn't
simple to locate. Take the IE upgrades. You go to Download.com or some
other download site, and the link takes you to the little MS installer,
not to the actual software program you want to download. Why? Because
Microsoft wants us to install directly over the Internet, because that
gives them more control over what we do with the software. They don't
care that this method is not only less convenient, but less secure --
they just want to control what we do.
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A three-millisecond search found:

Microsoft Download Center
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?

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