Xp home netoworking woes

[Guest]

Hi there,

I'm trying to get my home network going on 3 pc's, 2 of which are wireless
and one ethernet. 2 of the pc's run xp pro sp2 (both wireless), and one runs
xp home sp2 (the one thats giving me the trouble, ofcoarse). Ok, so heres the
problem: I ran the network setup wizard and got all my computers on the same
workgroup with file and printer sharing and i can acess my 2 xp pro computers
from the xp home, but i cannot access the xp home from either of the xp
pro's. None of its shared folders show up and if i try to access the troubled
pc i get a "Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon
type at this computer." None of the computers have passwords, and they all
have administrator users. I've heard of problems like this with windows xp
home... I just hope i don't have to go out and buy pro.

Thanks a lot!

Stewart

 

[Carey Holzman]

www.careyholzman.com/net1.htm

Carey

 

[Guest]

Sorry for not mentioning it... that was the first thing i tried...

 

[Guest]

Would you care to explain how the PC are 'connected'. One is cable connected
to 'what'. Two have wireless network plug-in cards or in-built wireless
cards.

What is the medium that connects the Wired to Wireless Devices.

Do you have a Wireless Router?
or A Wireless Access Point?
or some other service?

In the absence of a complete picture, describing your problems, this may
explain things fully and cover steps you have overlooked.

The heart of your network will be a wireless access point and the Internet
Access or preferably one device that does both called a router, acting as
Wireless Access Point and cable or DSL modem and Network Switch. The
two-in-one units, available from Linksys, D-Link, Netgear and others, start
at about $100; with a few Ethernet ports and USB port too, so you can connect
to PCs using a standard Ethernet cable or USB cable.

To establish a wireless connection between a desktop PC and the wireless
router, you need a USB or Ethernet Cable.

To connect a notebook PC, you'll need a wireless PC card. New notebooks
generally have Wi-Fi capabilities built in. Notebooks with Intel's new
Centrino chip, for example, are Wi-Fi-enabled.

Note that 802.11g is backwards compatible with 802.11b — meaning a laptop
with a "g" card will talk to a "b" router, albeit at the slower speed — but
802.11a is not. If your's is an 802.11a network, get a dual-band wireless PC
card for your laptop so that it can connect both at home and at work.

Make sure that the software that comes with your gear will walk you through
the installation. The steps will vary slightly, depending on each computer's
operating system. The older the OS, the trickier it can be; Windows XP is
designed to detect and configure a PC card to talk to an existing network.

Before you start, gather the following information:
• your broadband connection's IP address, e.g., 123.43.2.1
• subnet mask, e.g., 255.255.122.0
• default gateway e.g., 192.168.0.2
• DNS IP addresses e.g., 123.123.123.1

You can get these things from your Internet provider; your customer-service
rep will know what you're talking about (or you can find this using the
Properties tab, under Network Connections). Each is just a series of numbers
(e.g., 123.43.2.1) that you'll be prompted to plug in during setup. (If your
provider supports a protocol called DHCP, your router should retrieve these
settings automatically when you plug it in.)

You may also be asked to choose an SSID (service set identifier) I recommend
that you do not accept the default setting as anyone nearby with a wireless
device can also use your internet access. Set your SSID to a meaningful name
use your Family Name or Some happy name for you. For work-group name use
‘Wireless’ and a wireless channel select from 1 – 11, I recommend you use a
higher channel as default settings usually select the lower end. Keep these
consistent for all of your machines.

Security
For additional security you can and should use Wired Equivalent Privacy
(WEP) algorithm: and set this at 64bit: you can then choose a combination of
10 hexadecimal characters [0-9 + A-F], again for this may I recommend you
select your mobile phone number as it is 10 characters long and not known to
all your neighbours.

Additionally you can set the Access Point to only allow access to specific
units, where you would enter their MAC address, again a series of Hex
numbers, usually found on the Wireless Card plugged into the Laptops or other
desktop PCs.

 

[Guest]

ANother good reference is from Microsoft at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/netwimprovements.mspx

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Hi there,

I'm trying to get my home network going on 3 pc's, 2 of which are wireless
and one ethernet. 2 of the pc's run xp pro sp2 (both wireless), and one runs
xp home sp2 (the one thats giving me the trouble, ofcoarse). Ok, so heres the
problem: I ran the network setup wizard and got all my computers on the same
workgroup with file and printer sharing and i can acess my 2 xp pro computers
from the xp home, but i cannot access the xp home from either of the xp
pro's. None of its shared folders show up and if i try to access the troubled
pc i get a "Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon
type at this computer." None of the computers have passwords, and they all
have administrator users. I've heard of problems like this with windows xp
home... I just hope i don't have to go out and buy pro.

Thanks a lot!

Stewart

There are inconsistencies in the network permission settings on the XP
Home computer. I don't know what causes the problem, but I've seen
several reports of it, too. Here's the solution:

1. Download and install the Windows 2003 Server Resource Kit Tools
from http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=4544 .

2. Click Start | All Programs | Windows Resource Kit Tools | Command
Shell.

3. Type these lines at the command prompt. The second and third
commands are case-sensitive, so type them exactly as shown. Note the
"+r" in the second one and the "-r" in the third one:

net user guest /active:yes
ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest
ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Carey,

BTW, what does your little fixnet.reg program do, exactly? I'm sure it's
helpful, current and that you're an expert, but some of us would like to know
a little bit about what we're doing before we fiddle with the
registry.....???? Thanks!

Steve

 

[Carey Holzman]

Just open it in notepad to see what it does...

Carey,

BTW, what does your little fixnet.reg program do, exactly? I'm sure it's
helpful, current and that you're an expert, but some of us would like to
know
a little bit about what we're doing before we fiddle with the
registry.....???? Thanks!

Steve

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Just open it in notepad to see what it does...

I applaud your curiosity and caution, Steve. Since Carey's unwilling
or unable to explain what the file does, I'll do it.

The file makes registry settings that can solve specific network
problems that I describe below. However, I don't believe in
one-size-fits-all solutions, and I don't think that every Windows
network user should make these (or any) changes to network or registry
settings indiscriminately, even when there are network problems. That
could cause more problems by changing correct settings.

1. It deletes these registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\
NetBT\Parameters\NodeType

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\
NetBT\DhcpNodeType

That can help when a Windows XP computer receives invalid settings
from a DHCP server for the NetBIOS node type. The invalid settings
can prevent the computer from browsing the network or being seen on
the network.

2. It creates a registry key that allows anonymous users to enumerate
account information and shared resources:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\
Lsa\restrictanonymous

That can help when other computers can't see shared resources
belonging to an XP computer. However, it controls other security
features that you might not want to change, as described here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/mbsawp.mspx

The Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer checks this key and gives a
warning if it has the value that Carey's file assigns.

3. It deletes this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\
lanmanserver\parameters\IRPStackSize

That can help when a computer's shared resources are inaccessible over
the network, as evidenced by these error messages on another computer
that attempts access:

Not enough server storage is available to process this command.

Not enough memory to complete transaction. Close some applications
and retry.

However, Microsoft's recommended solution for that problem is to
increase the value of IRPStackSize, not to delete it, as shown here:

Antivirus Software May Cause Event ID 2011
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;177078
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Steve,

Thanks very much for your informative and professional reply.

Unfortunately I made the mistake of using this file before asking this
question (some day I will cure this impulsiveness.....<g>), so I assume if I
go back in to regedit and add the keys back and delete the keys added, I will
have "reverted" my registry to where it was. Please let me know if there's
more to it than that, if you would be so kind.

Steve

 

[Guest]

Oh, one other thing -- I _believe_ that when the IRPStackSize key was
deleted, it initiated a failure with Norton Antivirus 2005 (part of Norton
Systemworks 2005) that disables Antivirus and points you to a Symantec
support/knowledgebase article suggesting you disable your Audigy 2 software
to solve, or reinstall Antivirus to solve (had to do the latter).

So yes, there were unpleasant side effects to using this "fix" without any
documentation.

Steve

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

Thanks very much for your informative and professional reply.

Unfortunately I made the mistake of using this file before asking this
question (some day I will cure this impulsiveness.....<g>), so I assume if I
go back in to regedit and add the keys back and delete the keys added, I will
have "reverted" my registry to where it was. Please let me know if there's
more to it than that, if you would be so kind.

Steve

You're welcome, Steve. Do you know what values those registry keys
had before using the file? If so, you can change them back with
Regedit. If not, use System Restore to go back to a restore point
made before you ran the file. That will revert the registry (and the
rest of the system, except My Documents) to exactly where it was.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Oh, one other thing -- I _believe_ that when the IRPStackSize key was
deleted, it initiated a failure with Norton Antivirus 2005 (part of Norton
Systemworks 2005) that disables Antivirus and points you to a Symantec
support/knowledgebase article suggesting you disable your Audigy 2 software
to solve, or reinstall Antivirus to solve (had to do the latter).

So yes, there were unpleasant side effects to using this "fix" without any
documentation.

Steve

Steve,

I'm not surprised that deleting IRPStackSize affected Norton
Antivirus, given the information in the Microsoft Knowledge Base
article that I cited. I'm glad that you found a solution. Using
System Restore to undo the registry damage done by Carey's file would
also have solved the problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
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