XP Death Watch


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cheley_bonstell88

XP Death Watch



http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html

Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains
the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics
vendor Net Applications, for example,
pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went
online last month,

five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista.

Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important.

According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit
retailers and OEMs to sell
the nearly seven-year-old operating system.

[ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition
today. ]


http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


You'll have questions as that date approaches,

including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging,
anyone?);

we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing
through the end of next month.

How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from
today is the last day Microsoft

will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and
let major computer makers
--
called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs
with XP pre-installed.


Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not
Microsoft, has publicly used,
for XP's retail and OEM availability.

So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell
has said is the last

possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP.
"To meet Microsoft's

June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline,

June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or
workstation

with an OEM Windows XP license"

, Dell says on its Web site.

www.dell.com
 
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Canuck57

XP Death Watch

Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that
mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista if
your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a Apple
Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux?

Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot it.
Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But guess what,
the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not come back.

I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft shooting
there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves them right.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html

Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains
the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics
vendor Net Applications, for example,
pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went
online last month,

five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista.

Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important.

According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit
retailers and OEMs to sell
the nearly seven-year-old operating system.

[ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition
today. ]


http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


You'll have questions as that date approaches,

including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging,
anyone?);

we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing
through the end of next month.

How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from
today is the last day Microsoft

will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and
let major computer makers
--
called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs
with XP pre-installed.


Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not
Microsoft, has publicly used,
for XP's retail and OEM availability.

So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell
has said is the last

possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP.
"To meet Microsoft's

June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline,

June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or
workstation

with an OEM Windows XP license"

, Dell says on its Web site.

www.dell.com
 
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Canuck57

Milt said:
Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for
years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to, no
one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95....

You can in so long as your PC already has it and it does not crap out. Most
PCs are not designed to last 10+ years. (assuming your XP is original and a
patch does not blow it up).
 
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David

Save it? Its not going anywhere, you will still be able to use it for
years to come. Heck, you could still use Windows 3.1 if you wanted to,
no one is stopping you. Same with Windows 2000, NT, 98, ME, 95....

Well,

let me spell it out.

say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC..

but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube )

or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or
require a" Windows MVP" to support it.

If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC,

you're good to go.

Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you
have to figure out How to disable half of the system

just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP.

- and I say

Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the
Population)

through all this Hosre Siht.

Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups.

Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world
into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights.

A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry.

And I say,

why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap!

Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage Microsoft

into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for The
Foreseeable Future..

Thank You ..
 
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Canuck57

just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP.

You are doing good. I never got that far.
Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world
into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights.

Not really, Ubuntu works on it just great.
A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry.

That is why business is rejecting Vista.
 
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Synapse Syndrome

Frank said:
You can't be as stupid as you seem, can you?
Frank

No Frank. That is the one thing that you can do better than anybody else.
It's your forte.

ss.
 
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Hayden Kirk

I sell Vista to many businesses.

They don't reject it at all. Just stop using min speced hardware, or
hardware under min spec. That's the reason it runs so slow. My customers
want a good 64bit system. 64bit Vista is a lot better than 64bit XP.

Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue.

- Hayden


Canuck57 said:
XP Death Watch

Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that
mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista
if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a
Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux?

Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot it.
Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But guess
what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not come back.

I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft shooting
there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves them right.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html

Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains
the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics
vendor Net Applications, for example,
pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went
online last month,

five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista.

Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important.

According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit
retailers and OEMs to sell
the nearly seven-year-old operating system.

[ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition
today. ]


http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


You'll have questions as that date approaches,

including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging,
anyone?);

we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing
through the end of next month.

How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from
today is the last day Microsoft

will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and
let major computer makers
--
called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs
with XP pre-installed.


Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not
Microsoft, has publicly used,
for XP's retail and OEM availability.

So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell
has said is the last

possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP.
"To meet Microsoft's

June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline,

June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or
workstation

with an OEM Windows XP license"

, Dell says on its Web site.

www.dell.com
 
R

Rex Ballard

XP Death Watch
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-...

Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains
the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics
vendor Net Applications, for example,
pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went
online last month,

five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista.

Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important.

Don't count on it.
According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit
retailers and OEMs to sell
the nearly seven-year-old operating system.

Microsoft may be slitting their own throat. The OEMs are still
negotiating with Microsoft and it's possible that if Microsoft refuses
to deal, or attempts to force the shift to Vista too aggressively,
that the OEMs will respond much the same way that Windows NT server
customers responded when Microsoft tried to force them into switching
to Windows 2003. Instead of being a massive migration worth
$billions, many corporations realized that they were being herded into
yet a another slaughterhouse, and opted to switch as many servers as
they possibly could to Linux, or Unix, including AIX, Solaris, and
HP_UX.
[ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition
today. ]

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

You'll have questions as that date approaches,

including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging,
anyone?);

Of course, Microsoft is hoping that it will force a mass-migration to
Vista.
Instead, there is a very good chance that corporate customers, as well
as many retail customers, will end up getting much more interested in
Linux as a replacement for Vista.

Many corporations have already purchased irrevocable licenses to XP/
2000 (licenses that allow employees to install either XP or 2000) for
all of their employees, and these licenses are transferable. This
means that corporate customers might opt to purchase machines with
Linux, then install these XP or 2000 licenses VM clients.

Many corporations may even be ready to "pull the plug" on nearly all
Microsoft PCs, especially if Microsoft tries to "put the squeeze on
them" for more huge payments for the sake of Vista.

Dell may have opted to stop selling XP, but it might be interesting to
see how HP, Acer, and Lenovo feel about this. Microsoft might have a
very hard time getting all 4 OEMs to accept the very unpopular Vista
as the only option.
 
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Roy Schestowitz

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____/ Rex Ballard on Saturday 14 June 2008 08:07 : \____
Don't count on it.

They enable upgrades to XP now, provided that you 'upgrade' your Vista
(edition-wise). Another fine example of double-dipping to game sales
statistics and milk innocent users, who can -- and probably will -- pay extra
for XP.

It was in the news just a couple of days ago:

Top OEMs to sell XP PCs down to the wire

,----[ Quote ]
| A clause in Microsoft's guidelines lets computer makers install Windows XP
| Professional -- but not the more common and less expensive Windows XP Home --
| on new PCs at a customer's request when those machines are ordered with
| Windows Vista Business or Windows Vista Ultimate.
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9096598&intsrc=hm_list

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~~ Best of wishes

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Not Me

I have a machine that started with an OEM version of W3.1 on a 486 CPU,
upgraded to W95, then upgraded to W98, SE, then ME, cloned to a new, larger
HDD and put on a new MB/P4 CPU then updated to XP.
It still runs fine after all these years...that's a long time for 1 install
with many upgrades, and I have never needed to format/reinstall as I see so
many recommending.
I can make Windows work, even Vista.
I just find Vista poorley done and distasteful to use.
Some people like it, but then again...some people like liver too...
I'll be using XP for a long time, unless W7 is an actual improvement.
 
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RHF

Well,

let me spell it out.

say next year , you want to buy a nice new Shiny PC..

but your choices will be either Vista ( search for Vista on Youtube )

or something that might not be compatible with your work group, or
require a" Windows MVP" to support it.

If Windows XP is available , pre installed on your new PC,

you're good to go.

Currently, with Vista, to get any sort of performance out of it, you
have to figure out How to disable half of the system

just to get the same performance you currently get with Windows XP.

- and I say

Why force the computer illiterates of the world ( the rest of the
Population)

through all this Hosre Siht.

Why, with Vista, they can't even get out to Yahoo Groups.

Having a " Vista Only " PC world is delegating many PC's of the world
into fancy screen-saver endowed paperweights.

A Vista Only PC world will cripple normal commerce and industry.

And I say,

 why put up with this Microsoft "Vista only " crap!

Just Worry, Cajole and Bullyrage  Microsoft

 into making Good old reliable Windows XP available for  The
Foreseeable Future..

Thank You ..

David,

OK - Simple Question : Why not buy any new PC with Vista
installed on it; and Erase {Wipe Clean} the Hard Drive and
Install Window's XP on it ?

idtars ~ RHF
 
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Hayden Kirk

Yeah I'm a moron *rollseyes*.

Clear Windows said:
I would fire any tech on the spot that even dares to imply to put any kind
of vista on a company workstation

you must be stupid right?

You role is to protect your clients not give them poop (vista)
Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue.

YOU FRIKIN MORON!!!! Computer illiterate $#&Q)&$Q)*$&




Hayden Kirk said:
I sell Vista to many businesses.

They don't reject it at all. Just stop using min speced hardware, or
hardware under min spec. That's the reason it runs so slow. My customers
want a good 64bit system. 64bit Vista is a lot better than 64bit XP.

Do some homework, half of you sound like you haven't got a clue.

- Hayden


Canuck57 said:
XP Death Watch

Why buy XP or petition, Microsoft has declared it dead. Heck, for that
mater all the developers are off to "Win 7". Why even bother with Vista
if your PC isn't broke. And if it is broke, why not look at EeePC or a
Apple Mac? Or buy a commodity (cheap) PC and load Ubuntu/Linux?

Microsoft had the best, most accepted OS out there, XP. Now they shot
it. Making the same mistake as Coke, new Coke and Coke Clasic. But
guess what, the more people that learn Macs and Linux, they might not
come back.

I am not going to sign the petition, I look forward to Microsoft
shooting there feet right off. Besides Linux is free of DRM. Serves
them right.


http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/27/XP-deathwatch-T-minus-five-weeks_1.html

Even though it has had its own problems of late, Windows XP remains
the most-used version of Windows. The newest data from Web metrics
vendor Net Applications, for example,
pegs XP as driving 73 percent of the personal computers that went
online last month,

five times the nearest competitor, Microsoft's own Windows Vista.

Which is why an impending deadline five weeks from today is important.

According to Microsoft, June 30 is the last day it will permit
retailers and OEMs to sell
the nearly seven-year-old operating system.

[ Make your voice heard. Sign InfoWorld's 'Save Windows XP' petition
today. ]


http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/


You'll have questions as that date approaches,

including whether the deadline will drive up prices (gouging,
anyone?);

we plan to have the answers, starting with this FAQ and continuing
through the end of next month.

How long until Microsoft shuts off the XP spigot? Five weeks from
today is the last day Microsoft

will officially allow retailers to sell the old operating system, and
let major computer makers
--
called "OEMs," for "original equipment manufacturers" -- to sell PCs
with XP pre-installed.


Monday, June 30, is the EOL, or End-Of-Life, a term Dell, not
Microsoft, has publicly used,
for XP's retail and OEM availability.

So what's the June 18 date I've heard about? That's the day that Dell
has said is the last

possible day for its customers to buy a machine running Windows XP.
"To meet Microsoft's

June 30 last-day-to-ship OEM Windows XP deadline,

June 18 is the last time to purchase a Dell laptop, desktop, or
workstation

with an OEM Windows XP license"

, Dell says on its Web site.

www.dell.com
 
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Bender

My Sony laptop is now 10 years old. It came with Windows 98. I flashed the
bios for a Windows 2000 installation. It is now running Windows XP.
I use it with my old scanner that does not have drivers for Vista. I can't
upgrade the laptop to Vista as it doesn't have enough ram for one thing (max
is 64 + 128 MB for a total of 192 MB).
 
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David

David,

OK - Simple Question : Why not buy any new PC with Vista
installed on it; and Erase {Wipe Clean} the Hard Drive and
Install Window's XP on it ?
idtars ~ RHF
 .

Very complicated, very expensive.

Most PC users have just about learned that the Cup Holder actually
reads CD's.

Asking them to re educate themselves about a complex, cumbersome OS is
not practical or realistic.

the only thing that they know is " Buy A Mac". " Buy A Mac".

As for " Ubuntu" and "Linux " , they are either Countries in Africa
or Rap Guys.

Windows XP is a Nice, Safe, realiable OS that
Should be an option when one goes out to buy a New PC.

maybe..MAYBE.. Microsoft will stop pumping Apple
by forcing crummy OS's on the computer illiterate.

So Please, sign the petition then send it around to your friends.

Maybe they'll listen

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/archives/2008/01/save_windows_xp.html
 
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