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Christy,

Other than getting the "virtual memory is too low" message, what are the
exact symptoms?

What are your virtual memory settings? There's useful information at
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

Basically, assuming your PC has 512 MB RAM and a fairly large hard drive
(how large is your hard drive?). 100 MB is recommended for the minimum
setting for the page file, 700 or 800 MB for the maximum.

Running without an antivirus is *not* advised! Ditching Norton isn't
necessarily a bad idea, but at least use a free antivirus program like
AVG.
 
When you're in Task Manager, jot down *everything* that's running. Go
to http://www.answersthatwork.com and click on the Task List button.
This is an excellent resource to see what you're running and whether or
not it's advisable to disable it (which might very well improve
performance). If you can't find the tasks, post them here, and if there
are any red flags, I'm sure someone will chime in.

In addition to Task Manager, you can run msconfig and jot down
everything that's loading up at Startup. You can see what you do and
don't want to run at startup by going to
http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html and clicking on "If you are a
regular visitor, click <HERE> to go straight to the list..."
 
bostonblakie said:
Have you tried a memory manager such as the free "Free Ram xp Pro"? A good
way to see what's using up your memory. Google it for download info. I've
had it for months. It is useful & no problems so far.

Free RAM XP Pro and all other products of similar ilk are pure
unadulterated crapware. They are, without exception, totally
incapable of performing any beneficial function for any computer under
any circumstances.

Free RAM should perhaps be more accurately described as *Useless* RAM
because that it is what it actually is - RAM for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

These magic mystical utilities create large amounts of useless RAM by
artificially forcing Windows to move active memory content from RAM to
the page file on the hard drive. And subsequently, when this memory
content is needed again, it will take a minimum of 1,000 times longer
to access and reload that content from the page file than it would if
it had been left in RAM. And making things take 1,000 times longer
than necessary is not how you improve performance.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
Sorry to be so dense but where do I find ms config? I searched in help and it
didn't direct me in the proper area. sorry and thanks so much for your help
 
My computer is just super duper slow at startup. That is really the only
symptom I have noticed. Here is my virtual memory setting: Inital size 950mb
max size 1536mb. I changed it to system managed to see if that helps.
 
LOL! I had to do some backtracking to recall this thread; did you know
you started it back in July? :-)

Why don't you share the results of what you have done so far:

Did you sucessfully get Windows to manage the page file (virtual
memory)?

What all is running in Task Manager (Ctrl + Alt + Del will take you
there)? Make sure you jot down everything and use the following Web site
as a guide as to what is superfluous:
http://www.answersthatwork.com (and click on the Task List button). Feel
free to post back with the list if you'd like our feedback.

And the Startup tab on System Configuration Utility (Start > Run >
msconfig > Startup) will show you all your apps and processes that
automatically run whenever Windows is started. You can see what you do
and don't want to run at startup by going to
http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html and clicking on "If you are a
regular visitor, click <HERE> to go straight to the list..." As a quick
experiment, make a note of what all is checked, uncheck everything, and
reboot to see if your memory and/or speed problems go away. Again, feel
free to post back with the list if you'd like our feedback.

Did you visit either http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm or
http://www.securitytango.com ? Bookmark them and use them for your
routine maintenance.

Have you deleted temp files and *then* defragged? Actually I see that
you say you defragged back in September. Was this done *after* deleting
temp files?

Have you scanned for viruses, spyware, etc?

Good luck.
 
Christy,

See my other post regarding slowness and startup programs.

Regarding virtual memory, I recommend that you let Windows manage it.

If you're not going to let Windows manage your virtual memory, then
change your initial page file size to 100 MB and your max size to 750
MB. Again, http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm has a lot of useful
information.

Finally, how large is your hard drive, and how much free space do you
have? This will determine whether or not you should increase the max
size of the page file.
 
It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your post of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...
 
Christy said:
Sorry to be so dense but where do I find ms config? I searched in help and
it
didn't direct me in the proper area. sorry and thanks so much for your
help
First of all, the name is msconfig.
Next, you get to it by::
Press Start
Select Run
Enter msconfig.
Jim
 
LOL! I get sick of dealing with it and sometimes I just act like I'm not
having a problem. Dumb, I know.

I deleted temp. files and then defragged.

I know how to get to Task Manager but what am I looking for? Applications or
Processes?
 
Both. (although Processes will yield more useful results since many run
in the background and are unfamiliar).
 
How do I "fix" it?

Daave said:
It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your post of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...
 
Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.
 
Thanks! I hope I am not aggravating you too bad! lol I started going through
my task list last night and was able to get rid of a few things and I did
notice a slight difference this morning. Some of the things that I need to
get rid of, according to that site, I'm not sure how because the way they
tell you to get rid of it is by purchasing that program and I don't know if I
want to shell out the $ on it.

Daave said:
Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.

--
Dave




Christy said:
How do I "fix" it?
 
You're welcome.

Which site are you referring to? As far as I can remember, all the links
I gave you were to freeware utilities.

There are so many quality free apps out there that I would recommend
staying away from any ones that cost anything(Exceptions may include
antivirus apps such as Kaspersky, but even then, I tend to recommend the
free AVG. Still, the best anti-virus application is the one between your
ears...).

--
Dave


Christy said:
Thanks! I hope I am not aggravating you too bad! lol I started going
through
my task list last night and was able to get rid of a few things and I
did
notice a slight difference this morning. Some of the things that I
need to
get rid of, according to that site, I'm not sure how because the way
they
tell you to get rid of it is by purchasing that program and I don't
know if I
want to shell out the $ on it.

Daave said:
Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.

--
Dave




Christy said:
How do I "fix" it?

:

It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your
post
of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're
running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...

--
Dave


Christy wrote:
My computer is just super duper slow at startup. That is really
the
only symptom I have noticed. Here is my virtual memory setting:
Inital size 950mb max size 1536mb. I changed it to system
managed
to
see if that helps.
 
http://www.answersthatwork.com/ This is the site I am talking about. There
were a couple of things that need dealing with and it referred to their
'Ultimate Trouble Shooter' software. Not sure what to do about that.

Ok, I think I have all of the answers to all of your previous questions.

I have 64.7 GB of free space on my hard drive with a capacity of 74.5 GB.

These are processes that are running that either I couldn't find on the task
list on the above mentioned website or they were on there but I was unsure as
to how to proceed. Maybe you can help.
aswUpdSv.exe (not on the list)
Lexbces.exe ( it is on the list but I am confused as to what to do with it)
Lexpps.exe (it is on the list but it recommended changing the name through
their software and since I don't have that program, I'm not sure what to do)
Rundll32.exe (I did find it and it said that it shouldn't be in my task
manager but it IS so I don't know what to do)
tfswctrl.exe (this has something to do with HP and I don't have anything HP
related on my computer)
ViewMgr.exe (not on the list)
lxbabmgr.exe (not on the list but thinking it is something to do with my
printer which is a lexmark)
Realsched.exe (not sure what to do with this either)
lxbabmom.exe (not on the list)
msmsgs.exe (this has to do with MSN messenger and I don't want it)
wzqkpick.exe (not sure what to do)
************************************************************
I ran my system configuration to see what was in startup and there were 3
things that I am not sure about:
there were 2 RUNDLL32.exe (according to the other site you gave me to go to
this could possibly be a worm but I don't know how to tell if it is)
hcenter (couldn't find this at sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html)
realsched (couldn't find)

I hope what I have done so far helps!!! Thanks for your assistance!
Daave said:
You're welcome.

Which site are you referring to? As far as I can remember, all the links
I gave you were to freeware utilities.

There are so many quality free apps out there that I would recommend
staying away from any ones that cost anything(Exceptions may include
antivirus apps such as Kaspersky, but even then, I tend to recommend the
free AVG. Still, the best anti-virus application is the one between your
ears...).

--
Dave


Christy said:
Thanks! I hope I am not aggravating you too bad! lol I started going
through
my task list last night and was able to get rid of a few things and I
did
notice a slight difference this morning. Some of the things that I
need to
get rid of, according to that site, I'm not sure how because the way
they
tell you to get rid of it is by purchasing that program and I don't
know if I
want to shell out the $ on it.

Daave said:
Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.

--
Dave




How do I "fix" it?

:

It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your
post
of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're
running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...

--
Dave


Christy wrote:
My computer is just super duper slow at startup. That is really
the
only symptom I have noticed. Here is my virtual memory setting:
Inital size 950mb max size 1536mb. I changed it to system
managed
to
see if that helps.
 
Forgot about that!

Whenever I use sites like that, I purposefully avoid clicking on
anything that may result in a scan or a purchase; all I want is info!

Another decent site for this sort of thing:

http://www.processlibrary.com/

Assuming you ran your anti-virus program *with up-to-date virus
definitions* in Safe Mode, I will assume that your system is clean. I'm
aware that some of the entries below can indicate the possibility of a
worm, it's more than likely not the case. If you want to dig further,
you could always find the exact path of each process and do some
research, but it's probably not necessary.

Keep in mind that if you uncheck any of the below processes in msconfig,
you can always re-check it anytime down the road; you're not
uninstalling anything so there is nothing to be concerned about (think
of msconfig as a diagnostic tool). Then again, sometimes there is a more
proper way to prevent certain processes from loading. For example,
realsched.exe (RealNetworks Scheduler) is part of the RealOne player,
and its function is to regularly run AutoUpdate and Message Center.
Personally, I like to check for updates on my own and therefore don't
like these types of processes running in the background. I found the
following at
http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/MP3Audio/Disable_RealPlayer_realsched.exe.html

Written by Oscar Sodani
Wednesday, 07 July 2004

When you install RealPlayer, it will add a process called realsched.exe
to your startup configuration. realsched.exe periodically checks the
Internet for updates. Even worse, even if you take it out of your
startup configuration in the registry, simply running RealPlayer will
make it return. While realsched.exe is relatively benign, I don't like
processes running on my system without my permission. Here's how to
disable it.

- Launch RealPlayer
- Click on the Tools and choose Preferences
- Under the Automatic Services category, choose Message Center
- Press the button marked "Configure Message Center"
- UNCHECK the option labeled Checking - Check for new messages
- Choose Yes when the warning pops-up


If you haven't already, run MSCONFIG to remove it from your startup
configuration as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding aswUpdSv.exe, it's part of Avast anti-virus. If Avast is your
AV app, then leave this process alone so it will make sure your software
is up-to-date. The exception is if you manually do this on your own
often enough.

The Lexmark and HP stuff can probably be unchecked, or if this isn't an
option, then you can re-name the file. All you need to do is
single-click the icon and place the cursor in the small box. One common
practice is to tack on an .old extension.

If you don't want MSN messenger, then rather than disabling msmsgs.exe,
you should just uninstall the entire app.

hcenter (tgcmd.exe) is third from the top at
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=hcenter

It seems to be related to TgAddServer (tgfix.exe). See
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=tgaddserver

I'd uncheck it. Remember, you can always re-check it later.

Bottom line:

First, take notes and create a baseline profile (you can just print out
this post!). Anytime you make a change, jot it down for reference. This
way, you'll know exactly what you need to un-do to get back to where you
were originally.

Uncheck or re-name any process that you're pretty sure you can live
without. Consider uninstalling the whole app, but only if you don't use
it! Editing the registry can be done, too, but you need to know what you
are doing! Make sure to back it up first.

Well, I gotta go to sleep! Hope this helps.

--
Dave


http://www.answersthatwork.com/ This is the site I am talking about.
There were a couple of things that need dealing with and it referred
to their 'Ultimate Trouble Shooter' software. Not sure what to do
about that.

Ok, I think I have all of the answers to all of your previous
questions.

I have 64.7 GB of free space on my hard drive with a capacity of 74.5
GB.

These are processes that are running that either I couldn't find on
the task list on the above mentioned website or they were on there
but I was unsure as to how to proceed. Maybe you can help.
aswUpdSv.exe (not on the list)
Lexbces.exe ( it is on the list but I am confused as to what to do
with it) Lexpps.exe (it is on the list but it recommended changing
the name through their software and since I don't have that program,
I'm not sure what to do) Rundll32.exe (I did find it and it said that
it shouldn't be in my task manager but it IS so I don't know what to
do)
tfswctrl.exe (this has something to do with HP and I don't have
anything HP related on my computer)
ViewMgr.exe (not on the list)
lxbabmgr.exe (not on the list but thinking it is something to do with
my printer which is a lexmark)
Realsched.exe (not sure what to do with this either)
lxbabmom.exe (not on the list)
msmsgs.exe (this has to do with MSN messenger and I don't want it)
wzqkpick.exe (not sure what to do)
************************************************************
I ran my system configuration to see what was in startup and there
were 3 things that I am not sure about:
there were 2 RUNDLL32.exe (according to the other site you gave me to
go to this could possibly be a worm but I don't know how to tell if
it is)
hcenter (couldn't find this at sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html)
realsched (couldn't find)

I hope what I have done so far helps!!! Thanks for your assistance!
Daave said:
You're welcome.

Which site are you referring to? As far as I can remember, all the
links
I gave you were to freeware utilities.

There are so many quality free apps out there that I would recommend
staying away from any ones that cost anything(Exceptions may include
antivirus apps such as Kaspersky, but even then, I tend to recommend
the free AVG. Still, the best anti-virus application is the one
between your ears...).

--
Dave


Christy said:
Thanks! I hope I am not aggravating you too bad! lol I started going
through
my task list last night and was able to get rid of a few things and
I did
notice a slight difference this morning. Some of the things that I
need to
get rid of, according to that site, I'm not sure how because the way
they
tell you to get rid of it is by purchasing that program and I don't
know if I
want to shell out the $ on it.

:

Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.

--
Dave




How do I "fix" it?

:

It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your
post
of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're
running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...

--
Dave


Christy wrote:
My computer is just super duper slow at startup. That is really
the
only symptom I have noticed. Here is my virtual memory setting:
Inital size 950mb max size 1536mb. I changed it to system
managed
to
see if that helps.
 
Daave said:
And the Startup tab on System Configuration Utility (Start > Run >
msconfig > Startup) will show you all your apps and processes that
automatically run whenever Windows is started.

Oops, I forgot one part:

Before clicking on the Startup tab, click on the General tab and make
sure that Selective Startup is selected!
 
You're welcome. :-)
Thanks for all of your help!!!

Daave said:
Forgot about that!

Whenever I use sites like that, I purposefully avoid clicking on
anything that may result in a scan or a purchase; all I want is info!

Another decent site for this sort of thing:

http://www.processlibrary.com/

Assuming you ran your anti-virus program *with up-to-date virus
definitions* in Safe Mode, I will assume that your system is clean.
I'm
aware that some of the entries below can indicate the possibility of
a
worm, it's more than likely not the case. If you want to dig further,
you could always find the exact path of each process and do some
research, but it's probably not necessary.

Keep in mind that if you uncheck any of the below processes in
msconfig,
you can always re-check it anytime down the road; you're not
uninstalling anything so there is nothing to be concerned about
(think
of msconfig as a diagnostic tool). Then again, sometimes there is a
more
proper way to prevent certain processes from loading. For example,
realsched.exe (RealNetworks Scheduler) is part of the RealOne player,
and its function is to regularly run AutoUpdate and Message Center.
Personally, I like to check for updates on my own and therefore don't
like these types of processes running in the background. I found the
following at
http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/MP3Audio/Disable_RealPlayer_realsched.exe.html

Written by Oscar Sodani
Wednesday, 07 July 2004

When you install RealPlayer, it will add a process called
realsched.exe
to your startup configuration. realsched.exe periodically checks the
Internet for updates. Even worse, even if you take it out of your
startup configuration in the registry, simply running RealPlayer will
make it return. While realsched.exe is relatively benign, I don't
like
processes running on my system without my permission. Here's how to
disable it.

- Launch RealPlayer
- Click on the Tools and choose Preferences
- Under the Automatic Services category, choose Message Center
- Press the button marked "Configure Message Center"
- UNCHECK the option labeled Checking - Check for new messages
- Choose Yes when the warning pops-up


If you haven't already, run MSCONFIG to remove it from your startup
configuration as well.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding aswUpdSv.exe, it's part of Avast anti-virus. If Avast is
your
AV app, then leave this process alone so it will make sure your
software
is up-to-date. The exception is if you manually do this on your own
often enough.

The Lexmark and HP stuff can probably be unchecked, or if this isn't
an
option, then you can re-name the file. All you need to do is
single-click the icon and place the cursor in the small box. One
common
practice is to tack on an .old extension.

If you don't want MSN messenger, then rather than disabling
msmsgs.exe,
you should just uninstall the entire app.

hcenter (tgcmd.exe) is third from the top at
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=hcenter

It seems to be related to TgAddServer (tgfix.exe). See
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=tgaddserver

I'd uncheck it. Remember, you can always re-check it later.

Bottom line:

First, take notes and create a baseline profile (you can just print
out
this post!). Anytime you make a change, jot it down for reference.
This
way, you'll know exactly what you need to un-do to get back to where
you
were originally.

Uncheck or re-name any process that you're pretty sure you can live
without. Consider uninstalling the whole app, but only if you don't
use
it! Editing the registry can be done, too, but you need to know what
you
are doing! Make sure to back it up first.

Well, I gotta go to sleep! Hope this helps.

--
Dave


http://www.answersthatwork.com/ This is the site I am talking about.
There were a couple of things that need dealing with and it referred
to their 'Ultimate Trouble Shooter' software. Not sure what to do
about that.

Ok, I think I have all of the answers to all of your previous
questions.

I have 64.7 GB of free space on my hard drive with a capacity of
74.5
GB.

These are processes that are running that either I couldn't find on
the task list on the above mentioned website or they were on there
but I was unsure as to how to proceed. Maybe you can help.
aswUpdSv.exe (not on the list)
Lexbces.exe ( it is on the list but I am confused as to what to do
with it) Lexpps.exe (it is on the list but it recommended changing
the name through their software and since I don't have that program,
I'm not sure what to do) Rundll32.exe (I did find it and it said
that
it shouldn't be in my task manager but it IS so I don't know what to
do)
tfswctrl.exe (this has something to do with HP and I don't have
anything HP related on my computer)
ViewMgr.exe (not on the list)
lxbabmgr.exe (not on the list but thinking it is something to do
with
my printer which is a lexmark)
Realsched.exe (not sure what to do with this either)
lxbabmom.exe (not on the list)
msmsgs.exe (this has to do with MSN messenger and I don't want it)
wzqkpick.exe (not sure what to do)
************************************************************
I ran my system configuration to see what was in startup and there
were 3 things that I am not sure about:
there were 2 RUNDLL32.exe (according to the other site you gave me
to
go to this could possibly be a worm but I don't know how to tell if
it is)
hcenter (couldn't find this at sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html)
realsched (couldn't find)

I hope what I have done so far helps!!! Thanks for your assistance!
:

You're welcome.

Which site are you referring to? As far as I can remember, all the
links
I gave you were to freeware utilities.

There are so many quality free apps out there that I would
recommend
staying away from any ones that cost anything(Exceptions may
include
antivirus apps such as Kaspersky, but even then, I tend to
recommend
the free AVG. Still, the best anti-virus application is the one
between your ears...).

--
Dave


Thanks! I hope I am not aggravating you too bad! lol I started
going
through
my task list last night and was able to get rid of a few things
and
I did
notice a slight difference this morning. Some of the things that I
need to
get rid of, according to that site, I'm not sure how because the
way
they
tell you to get rid of it is by purchasing that program and I
don't
know if I
want to shell out the $ on it.

:

Start > Run > cmd [enter]

(This brings up the Command Prompt)

COMPACT /U /S /I C:\*.* [enter]

That should do it.

--
Dave




How do I "fix" it?

:

It appears that you compressed the C: drive (according to your
post
of
Sept. 24). That is more than likely one of the reasons you're
running
slow! I'd fix that if I were you...

--
Dave


Christy wrote:
My computer is just super duper slow at startup. That is
really
the
only symptom I have noticed. Here is my virtual memory
setting:
Inital size 950mb max size 1536mb. I changed it to system
managed
to
see if that helps.
 

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