wow! the number of freeware groups on Google Groups is amazing!!!

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*ProteanThread*

most are low in membership with little or no activity. why duplicate "
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware " ? granted, i
created a yahoo group for freeware file sharing only because google
groups doesn't do binary (and no yahoo account is necessary) but ...
oh, well we won't go there.

google's nice but lately i'm finding out old stand bys like yahoo or
msn are just as good in most cases and in some cases better than
google. even alta vista has a better image search than google. if
yahoo were to include usenet groups, then what ? google certainly
can't stay atop forever, can it ? Where is the next internet dragon to
slay ?

unless somone can point me to a better service, i dare say that Yahoo
Groups outshines Google Groups (not in terms of usenet but in terms of
creating your own group) by a thousand to 1 although google is good in
other areas where yahoo isn't.
 
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Richard Steinfeld

Rockinghorse said:
YahooGroups has a good one, also.

What I don't understand is why use a proprietary board instead of usenet?

My experience with Yahoo in general and Yahoo Groups in particular have
been that they're a bit abusive.

Please explain why it's worth it.

Thanks.

Richard
 
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Vic Dura

What I don't understand is why use a proprietary board instead of usenet?

My experience with Yahoo in general and Yahoo Groups in particular have
been that they're a bit abusive.

Please explain what you mean by "abusivie".
 
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*ProteanThread*

abusive ? how ? as far as being a subscriber to a group or an owner ?
the nice ting about yahoogroups where it outshines google (and msn) is,
if necessary, a chat room (msn has one but google doesn't), link
sharing (msn has but not google), file sharing (msn has but limited
where google doesn't have at all) and a few other features. from a
group owners standpoint those are pluses but from a normal subscribers
standpoint maybe not.
 
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Rockinghorse Winner

On Wed 29 Jun 2005 03:44:24, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:


What is name of the good Yahoo freeware group?
Freeware-news. It's not so much a discussion group as an announcement board,
but it has ton's of clickable links.

The reason i like yahoo groups is

1) You get a more mainstream (i.e., less computer saavy) clientele, which
makes for less egotistical rants and flames and IMO, a more civil discourse
in most cases.

2) Like someone else mentioned, most groups are membership only, so the spam
is minimal or nonexistent.

3) Some topics are not covered in Usenet, for instance philosophy. Check it
out, you might find some groups you're interested in.







CUL8R



R*Horse


--




"Take a look behind you - upstream - now you begin to
recognize this country, don't you?"

"Yes, I do recognize it now. It is the most wonderful
thing I ever heard of; by a long shot the most
wonderful - and unexpected."

Mark Twain
Life on the Mississippi



http://rwinner.blogspot.com
 
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Maxx Pollare

Reality folded in on itself, and somewhere the following words from
"Rockinghorse Winner" apeared in history:
The reason i like yahoo groups is

1) You get a more mainstream (i.e., less computer saavy)
clientele, which makes for less egotistical rants and flames and
IMO, a more civil discourse in most cases.

2) Like someone else mentioned, most groups are membership only,
so the spam is minimal or nonexistent.

3) Some topics are not covered in Usenet, for instance philosophy.
Check it out, you might find some groups you're interested in.


Hey, the day Yahoo creates a usable frount-end for that joke of a forum
is the day that I start reading daily. Untill then I'll take the
Usenet and it's band of "unusal freaks" anyday over a web based news.
 
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Roger Johansson

Hey, the day Yahoo creates a usable frount-end for that joke of a
forum is the day that I start reading daily. Untill then I'll take
the Usenet and it's band of "unusal freaks" anyday over a web based
news.

Yahoo groups work well if you access them via email.
Set up groups in your email program for different discussion groups,
mailing lists. Set up filter which sort incoming messages to the
appropriate groups.

But you will never find the most advanced philosophy in the world in a
moderated discussion group.

Philosophy needs freedom like a boat needs water.

You can find the most advanced philosophy in usenet, but it is buried
under tons of crap, so you need to know what you are looking for.

Check out my messages in sci.electronics.design over the last week.
If you want more advanced philosophy than that you'll have to think it
out yourself.

alt.philosophy is the newsgroup where the best philosophers should be,
but there are a lot of people there who like to think they are
philosophers just because they are interested in the subject.

They find some pet theory or ideology which seems to justify their
lifestyle, and they keep repeating their magic phrases over and over.
You can find very advanced philosophy in alt.philosophy, but there
is a lot of other stuff there too. I haven't been active in
alt.philosophy for a few years, because of the high volume per day.
 
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Yahoo groups work well if you access them via email.

I disagree. No matter which of my reliable e-mail addresses I tell
Yahoo! to send to, Yahoo! cuts off delivery every couple of months. I
then have to use their web interface to change my settings back the way
I want them. Also, after each cut-off, Yahoo! waits a week to notify
me that they've stopped sending my mail, and they provide no way for me
to view the ones I've missed other than via their web pages.
 
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Rockinghorse Winner

alt.philosophy is the newsgroup where the best philosophers should be,
but there are a lot of people there who like to think they are
philosophers just because they are interested in the subject.

Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely check it out. But the Heidegger Yahoo
Forum is not bad.




--

Regards,



Rockinghorse Winner rwinner.blogspot.com
 
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Maxx Pollare

Reality folded in on itself, and somewhere the following words from
"Roger Johansson" apeared in history:
Yahoo groups work well if you access them via email. Set up groups
in your email program for different discussion groups, mailing
lists. Set up filter which sort incoming messages to the
appropriate groups.

Next step:
- pull Yahoo group content to a tird domain account
- Setup hanster for email
- Read Yahoo within Xnews! };8)
But you will never find the most advanced philosophy in the world
in a moderated discussion group. Philosophy needs freedom like a
boat needs water.
<snip>

So true...
That's why it's so hard to filter within those groups.
The probablility of miss something good is just to high.
 
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Roger Johansson

Maxx said:
Philosophy needs freedom like a boat needs water.
So true...

Texts about social and psychological stuff, the history of idologies
and ideas, creationism and humanism.
http://humanist.250free.com/

Texts about economics and politics.
http://hem.passagen.se/rj77/

My texts about common historical philosophical issues are published in
alt.philosophy. Issues more traditionally known as philosophy.
These texts alone inspired a philosophical magazine to ask me if they
could use my ideas as the philosophical platform for the magazine.

My definition of philosophy was one of the important texts in
alt.philosophy discussions a number of years ago.
 
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Franklin

On Sat 02 Jul 2005 17:29:13, »Q« wrote:
I disagree. No matter which of my reliable e-mail addresses I
tell Yahoo! to send to, Yahoo! cuts off delivery every couple of
months. I then have to use their web interface to change my
settings back the way I want them. Also, after each cut-off,
Yahoo! waits a week to notify me that they've stopped sending my
mail, and they provide no way for me to view the ones I've
missed other than via their web pages.


I used to get the same problem as you describe but it turned out
that part of the problem was that I was cancelling the Yahoo ads
and they were a pre-req to get Yahoo mail forwarded or POPped.

I found too that another part of the problem was that my mailbox
was filling up and the mailbox provider was bouncing mail back to
Yahoo who then suspended mail deliveries.

I don't like to fully sub to yahoo as I prefer to use email
command to sub, unsub, nomail, etc but in the end it is probably
worth joining Yahoo to be able to sign on and see the list of
bounced mails which Yahoo holds in your member area for a short
while.
 
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(ProteanThread)

Franklin said:
On Sat 02 Jul 2005 17:29:13, �Q� wrote:




I used to get the same problem as you describe but it turned out
that part of the problem was that I was cancelling the Yahoo ads
and they were a pre-req to get Yahoo mail forwarded or POPped.

I found too that another part of the problem was that my mailbox
was filling up and the mailbox provider was bouncing mail back to
Yahoo who then suspended mail deliveries.

I don't like to fully sub to yahoo as I prefer to use email
command to sub, unsub, nomail, etc but in the end it is probably
worth joining Yahoo to be able to sign on and see the list of
bounced mails which Yahoo holds in your member area for a short
while.

not perfect, but better than some, esp. MSN Groups and AOL Groups
 

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