Would you want THESE GUYS touching your PC?

[jim]

As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out
of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone
for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's
$200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course).

Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are
set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy
treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.

As reported on CNET
(http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9947410-7.html?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has
been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the
February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions
without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will
not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital
converter.

That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for
less than a year without the new digital signal converters.

Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
people's PCs.

jim

 

[Mark H]

Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is not
digital ready.

If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and the
TVs are a lot cheaper.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right
out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets
the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that
Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course).

Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are
set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy
treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.

As reported on CNET
(http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9947410-7.html?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy
has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready
for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals)
televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that
the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an
additional digital converter.

That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work
for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.

Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
people's PCs.

jim

Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will
still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer
stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to
making money..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Joseph Meehan]

As reported on CNET
(http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9947410-7.html?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy
has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready
for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals)
televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that
the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an
additional digital converter.

That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work
for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.

Actually it indicates how inaccurate CNET or someone who may have edited
their report may be.

Those TVs will still function and only those who rely on antenna
signals, not those who are getting dish or cable who will have no problems.

 

[john]

Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs
will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major
computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs
second to making money..

exactly, same goes for Microsoft.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with
over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required.

 

[jim]

Of course you are right, but why wouldn't Best Buy tell their customers
this?

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

exactly, same goes for Microsoft.

And the people behind Linux Distros also make money..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[john]

And the people behind Linux Distros also make money..

glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to the
customer runs second to making money.

 

[AJR]

John - I'm confused regarding "...service to the
customer runs second to making money. .." - what companies can you name
whose sole purpose is NOT to "make money"?

BTW - It is unfortunate that mose people have no other recourse then to use
Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. for advice and service .

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to
the customer runs second to making money.

Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development,
nada..

Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises..

Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with
over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required.

I don't know about what you call these in America, but we do not call them
converter boxes. They are digital terrestrial receivers, as these analogue
TVs just lack digital tuners.

ss.

 

[Tim Slattery]

The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with
over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required.

Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning
about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog
signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception
might not do so well with digital signals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...05/19/AR2008051902730.html?hpid=moreheadlines

 

[john]

Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development,
nada..

Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises..

Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine..

you took my statement and added "And..."
that generally means in addition to.
sounded like an agreement to me.

 

[Adam Albright]

you took my statement and added "And..."
that generally means in addition to.
sounded like an agreement to me.

Always fun to watch Mike Hall try to wiggle out of what he said.

Memo to Mike Hall:

The word 'and' is intended to indicate some connection or additions to
what was previously said. Often used to express logical modification,
some consequence or supplementary explanation to another. May be used
to form a conjunction, list more of the same or of a similar kind.

Always amusing to see the Microsoft fateful exclude Microsoft from
what they admit are a laundry list of sins of other software
companies, software/hardware retailers etc., when everybody knows
Microsoft is the biggest offender when it comes to poor service,
crappy always buggy products and attempts to bully and be the 800
pound gorilla in the room.

You see Mike, that MVP badge you so love to flash around looks pretty
tarnished when you always excuse Microsoft no matter what pretending
they are guiltless, like a good little fanboy is suppose to do.

 

[Robert Pendell]

Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning
about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog
signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception
might not do so well with digital signals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...05/19/AR2008051902730.html?hpid=moreheadlines

It is that digital signals are more picky about the signal quality. You
will need a higher signal strength to get a respectable digital signal
otherwise you will get a pretty bad picture.


--
Robert Pendell
(e-mail address removed)

"A perfect world is one of chaos."

Thawte Web of Trust Notary
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[Robert Pendell]

As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out
of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone
for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's
$200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course).

Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are
set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy
treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.

As reported on CNET
(http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9947410-7.html?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has
been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the
February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions
without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will
not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital
converter.

That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for
less than a year without the new digital signal converters.

Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
people's PCs.

jim

This applies to over the air signals only. If you use any other source
for the signal then they are fine.

--
Robert Pendell
(e-mail address removed)

"A perfect world is one of chaos."

Thawte Web of Trust Notary
CAcert Assurer

 

[Robert Pendell]

And the people behind Linux Distros also make money..

Not all of them.

--
Robert Pendell
(e-mail address removed)

"A perfect world is one of chaos."

Thawte Web of Trust Notary
CAcert Assurer

 

[Jim]

Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning
about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog
signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception
might not do so well with digital signals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...05/19/AR2008051902730.html?hpid=moreheadlines

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
(e-mail address removed)
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Perhaps that is correct for some sets in some localities. However, my TV
receives both analog and digital signals. The only difference I see is that
the digital signals are sharper and have better colors.

Jim

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was 5/20/2008 10:32 AM, and on a whim, Jim pounded out

Perhaps that is correct for some sets in some localities. However, my TV
receives both analog and digital signals. The only difference I see is that
the digital signals are sharper and have better colors.

Jim

Those living in the boonies will suffer the most probably. Since analog
gives varying degrees of quality, from lousy to good, digital will
either work or it won't. You won't "kind" of get a signal. If it's not
strong enough, you're out of luck.

--
Terry R.

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