Would you recommend using Registry Fix

[meadow]

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.



I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0



Would you recommend using this program below:



http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4



Thank you for help,



meadow

 

[Malke]

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.

(snip)

Go to Google Groups Advanced Search and do a search in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general using the search term "registry
cleaners". You will get a ton of posts on the merits (or lack of same)
of using registry cleaners.

Malke

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE]

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.

I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0

Would you recommend using this program below:

http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4

Thank you for help,

meadow

No, I would not recommend it or any other Registry fixer or cleaner.

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[Bob]

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.



I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0



Would you recommend using this program below:



http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4



Thank you for help,



meadow

I believe it is a very good program. I use it in conjunction with Registry
Medic. Check on CNET and search for registry. Read what users say about
different registry cleaning programs.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.
I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0

Would you recommend using this program below:

http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4
<http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4>

What specific problem are you experiencing that you *know* beyond
all reasonable doubt will be fixed by using a registry cleaner? If you
do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be far better
to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific key(s)
and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. Why use a shotgun when a
scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or
two registry entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of
allowing an automated product to make multiple changes simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

Further, no one has ever demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that the
use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner. I strongly
encourage others to acquire the knowledge, as well.


--

Bruce Chambers

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both at once. - RAH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

All a registry cleaner is going to do is clean entries that are no longer
used anyway. That will represent less than 0.01% of the entries in the
registry and will have no noticeable effect on your performance. An
erroneous removal can cripple your system. It's up to you, but what's the
point?

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.

I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0

Would you recommend using this program below:

http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4

Thank you for help,

meadow

 

[Bob]

What specific problem are you experiencing that you *know* beyond
all reasonable doubt will be fixed by using a registry cleaner? If you
do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be far better
to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific key(s)
and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. Why use a shotgun when a
scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or
two registry entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of
allowing an automated product to make multiple changes simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

Further, no one has ever demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that the
use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner. I strongly
encourage others to acquire the knowledge, as well.

Nonsense. The usual cant. The usual stupid reply. An "automated registry
cleaner" is not the issue. All registry cleaner programs have manual
selections. You can run the program and do nothing. You can delete one
invalid entry. All registry cleaner programs allow you to back up the
registry first.

What is true is that if you are running Windows XP and you do not clean
your registry periodically, you will wind up with literally thousands of
invalid registry entries.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

I've used it and it seems Ok however it would not recommend that anyone
purchase it. How anyone could "praise it" is beyond me as it really doesn't
do much other than clear out some dead entries. It does create a full
registry backup that can be handy and it does backup entries before removing
them however you can't access the backup from a non booting system.
So..........................................

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp




I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.



I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0



Would you recommend using this program below:



http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4



Thank you for help,



meadow

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Nonsense. The usual cant. The usual stupid reply. An "automated registry
cleaner" is not the issue. All registry cleaner programs have manual
selections. You can run the program and do nothing. You can delete one
invalid entry. All registry cleaner programs allow you to back up the
registry first.

All the above paragraph proves is that you've very little experience
maintaining computers, and that you've examined very, very few registry
"cleaners."

What is true is that if you are running Windows XP and you do not clean
your registry periodically, you will wind up with literally thousands of
invalid registry entries.

Not if you maintain the system properly, but, even if we were to
sti[pulate that your absurd claim is true, so what? Please provide
independent documetation that proves an unused invalid registry entry
causes any sort of problem. If you can, you'll be the very first to do so.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Bob]

All the above paragraph proves is that you've very little experience
maintaining computers, and that you've examined very, very few registry
"cleaners."

Kid, I was using computers before you were born. I go back to the days
when you would click a "+" or a "-." I thought it was wonderful when I
could build a Sinclair computer from parts with 1K memory. I have built
more computers than the number of times you have pissed. I currently use
five registry cleaners, and I have evaluated at least 10 others. They are:

Registry Fix
Registry Medic
Regseeker
Regsupreme
WinASO

What is true is that if you are running Windows XP and you do not clean
your registry periodically, you will wind up with literally thousands of
invalid registry entries.

Not if you maintain the system properly, but, even if we were to
sti[pulate that your absurd claim is true, so what? Please provide
independent documetation that proves an unused invalid registry entry
causes any sort of problem. If you can, you'll be the very first to do so.

How, exactly, do you "maintain the system properly?" Explain clearly what
is required to do so. Can you do that? I would be interested in your
concise reply. Of course, you have never used a registry cleaner have you?
You never have. You never have. The usual cant.

Of course, you are ridiculous. You obviously do not read posts. You
obviously have never read so much as a single post of programs that were
supposedly "uninstalled" but which left invalid registry entries which
corrupted the registry.

The point is that registry cleaners allow you to see what invalid registry
are present. You need do nothing. At least you know.

 

[chrispsg]

to use registry cleaners or not to use registry cleaners.....

I guess this is a question of personal opinion and how exactly does the
user use the pc. I personally do not use them; not because I dont trust
them or think that they do or do not work. I have nothing against
people that do, nor do I disagree with the usage of such software.
However, if the user uses the PC for specific tasks i.e. checking
email, word processing, etc. without the constant installation and
uninstallation of software I dont see the benefit of using them.
Although the registry is not at all a static entity this type of
behavior wouldnt result in unused or invalid entries in the registry.
On the other hand, a user is installing and uninstalling I can see the
benefit of the software.

psg

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You are making some unwarrented assumptions about Bruce. Good luck on that
one.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

All the above paragraph proves is that you've very little experience
maintaining computers, and that you've examined very, very few registry
"cleaners."

Kid, I was using computers before you were born. I go back to the days
when you would click a "+" or a "-." I thought it was wonderful when I
could build a Sinclair computer from parts with 1K memory. I have built
more computers than the number of times you have pissed. I currently use
five registry cleaners, and I have evaluated at least 10 others. They
are:

Registry Fix
Registry Medic
Regseeker
Regsupreme
WinASO

What is true is that if you are running Windows XP and you do not clean
your registry periodically, you will wind up with literally thousands of
invalid registry entries.

Not if you maintain the system properly, but, even if we were to
sti[pulate that your absurd claim is true, so what? Please provide
independent documetation that proves an unused invalid registry entry
causes any sort of problem. If you can, you'll be the very first to do
so.

How, exactly, do you "maintain the system properly?" Explain clearly what
is required to do so. Can you do that? I would be interested in your
concise reply. Of course, you have never used a registry cleaner have
you?
You never have. You never have. The usual cant.

Of course, you are ridiculous. You obviously do not read posts. You
obviously have never read so much as a single post of programs that were
supposedly "uninstalled" but which left invalid registry entries which
corrupted the registry.

The point is that registry cleaners allow you to see what invalid registry
are present. You need do nothing. At least you know.

 

[Edward W. Thompson]

You are making some unwarrented assumptions about Bruce. Good luck on
that one.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

Nonsense. The usual cant. The usual stupid reply. An "automated
registry
cleaner" is not the issue. All registry cleaner programs have manual
selections. You can run the program and do nothing. You can delete
one
invalid entry. All registry cleaner programs allow you to back up the
registry first.



All the above paragraph proves is that you've very little experience
maintaining computers, and that you've examined very, very few registry
"cleaners."

Kid, I was using computers before you were born. I go back to the days
when you would click a "+" or a "-." I thought it was wonderful when I
could build a Sinclair computer from parts with 1K memory. I have built
more computers than the number of times you have pissed. I currently use
five registry cleaners, and I have evaluated at least 10 others. They
are:

Registry Fix
Registry Medic
Regseeker
Regsupreme
WinASO

What is true is that if you are running Windows XP and you do not clean
your registry periodically, you will wind up with literally thousands
of
invalid registry entries.


Not if you maintain the system properly, but, even if we were to
sti[pulate that your absurd claim is true, so what? Please provide
independent documetation that proves an unused invalid registry entry
causes any sort of problem. If you can, you'll be the very first to do
so.

How, exactly, do you "maintain the system properly?" Explain clearly
what
is required to do so. Can you do that? I would be interested in your
concise reply. Of course, you have never used a registry cleaner have
you?
You never have. You never have. The usual cant.

Of course, you are ridiculous. You obviously do not read posts. You
obviously have never read so much as a single post of programs that were
supposedly "uninstalled" but which left invalid registry entries which
corrupted the registry.

The point is that registry cleaners allow you to see what invalid
registry
are present. You need do nothing. At least you know.

Based upon the arrogant response of Bruce Chambers to the initial post, the
follow up was both valid and justified. Whether or not Registry Cleaners
are 'necessary' to maintain a machine in an efficient manner is perhaps
debateable but most, if not all, Registry Cleaners do identify redundant
entries left by programs with less than efficient uninstall utilities.

I do not dispute the claim, due to lack of evidence, there maybe some
'cleaners' that cause damage to the Registry but the selection of 'cleaners'
I have and do use have never caused a problem. Perhaps those that are so
vocal about the problems Registry Cleaners cause could cite some examples.
Please name the particular software and the particular problem it causes.
That would at least give creditability to the claim, often made by some
MVPs, that Registry Cleaners cause problems to the extent the machine
becomes not bootable.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Based upon the arrogant response of Bruce Chambers to the initial post,

the follow up was both valid and justified.

Slander or slights are neither justified nor valid. The purpose of this
groups is to share knowledge. To disagree is normal, and points can be
debated by those who chose to. To sling mud as a response when presented
with disagreement is not warranted.

Whether or not Registry Cleaners are 'necessary' to maintain a machine in
an efficient manner is perhaps debateable but most, if not all, Registry
Cleaners do identify redundant entries left by programs with less than
efficient uninstall utilities.

The problem is not that they identify redundant or dead entries. The problem
is that they also sometimes remove valid and needed entries. As there is no
registry bloat problem as there was in previous win9x iterations, use of a
registry cleaner is dangerous and unnecessary. Sure they will remove the
invalid entries, but they may also remove needed ones. Removing the invalid
entries sole effect on the system is to reduce the registry file size in
some miniscule fashion. It will have no effect on performance.

I do not dispute the claim, due to lack of evidence, there maybe some
'cleaners' that cause damage to the Registry but the selection of
'cleaners' I have and do use have never caused a problem.
Perhaps those that are so vocal about the problems Registry Cleaners
cause could cite some examples.

Scan these windowsxp.* groups over the past 5 years, you will find plenty of
evidence, and all sorts of cleaners are involved. They are simply
unnecessary, the damage they can potentially do and have done far outwieghs
the benefits of using one.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Ted Zieglar]

"Kid, I was using computers before you were born. "

That might make you old, but it doesn't make you smart.

 

[Edward W. Thompson]

Slander or slights are neither justified nor valid. The purpose of this
groups is to share knowledge. To disagree is normal, and points can be
debated by those who chose to. To sling mud as a response when presented
with disagreement is not warranted.

It is of interest that you appear to take issue with my response to what was
an extremely rude response by Bruce Chambers quote " Nonsense. The usual
cant. The usual stupid reply." I suppose this type of response by a MVP is
OK but for us lesser mortals it is not.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

'Twas not Bruce that said that, nor do I see anywhere that he wrote anything
denigrating.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Kid, I was using computers before you were born.

You used the Eniac? That would be about the only computer that fits
the above sentence. What were Mauchly and Eckert really like, to work with?

I go back to the days
when you would click a "+" or a "-."

But you never had to enter you commands using punch cards? I guess
you're not nearly as old or as experienced as you claim to be.

I thought it was wonderful when I
could build a Sinclair computer from parts with 1K memory.

Ah! The Sinclair! That dates the start of your experience in the very
early '80's. I started @ 1969, in High School.

I have built
more computers than the number of times you have pissed.

An obvious absurdity, but colorful.

I currently use
five registry cleaners, and I have evaluated at least 10 others. They are:

Registry Fix
Registry Medic
Regseeker
Regsupreme
WinASO

Why, afraid to try Regedit?

How, exactly, do you "maintain the system properly?"

Sorry, can't teach an old dog new tricks, as you've so amply demonstrated.

I have always maintained that a good registry scanning tool, in the
hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be
a useful time-saving tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any
changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Bob]

You used the Eniac? That would be about the only computer that fits
the above sentence. What were Mauchly and Eckert really like, to work with?

Twit. I said "+" and "-." That was before Eniac.

But you never had to enter you commands using punch cards? I guess
you're not nearly as old or as experienced as you claim to be.

Punchcards? Kid, "+" and "-" was before punchcards.

Ah! The Sinclair! That dates the start of your experience in the very
early '80's. I started @ 1969, in High School.

Twit. I imported my Sinclair in 1974 from the U.K. Twit.

An obvious absurdity, but colorful.

Twit, how many computers have you built? How many times have you pissed?

Why, afraid to try Regedit?

Because I can not clean the registry with it. What about your claim that I
have used very, very few registry cleaners. Do you still stand by that
statement twit?

Sorry, can't teach an old dog new tricks, as you've so amply demonstrated.

You still have not answered the question. You still have not answered the
question.

I have always maintained that a good registry scanning tool, in the
hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be
a useful time-saving tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any
changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.

I never said automatically. You did. I never said automatically. You did.

Quit pissing in the wind twit.

 

[Og]

My 2¢:

1. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
2. There is no scientifically valid, peer-reviewed evidence that dead
Registry entries have a negative effect upon the Registry.
3. There is no scientifically valid, peer-reviewed evidence that removing
dead Registry entries has a positive effect upon the Registry.
4. Just because a "Registry Cleaner" does not BREAK the Registry is not
proof that said cleaner has actually performed a USEFUL function.

Conclusion: See Husky's post "clean that registry" (above your post) -- the
advocates of Registry cleaners are notable by their utter ABSENCE in the
thread-- they neither recommend their products, nor offer useful assistance
that might lend credence to their claims to be most knowledgeable about
things Registry.

The disparagers of Registry cleaners, on the other hand, are notable by
their detailed, step-by-step instructions for fixing the poster's problem.

Which do you prefer to heed -- those who claim to possess expertise, or
those who demonstrate expertise??

I listen to those who do the most rather than listen to those who yell the
most.
steve



I have read testimonials praising Registry Fix.

I am using a Dell 4700 C, Windows XP, IE 6.0

Would you recommend using this program below:

http://www.registryfix.com/?hop=publish4

Thank you for help,

meadow