Michael said:
Thanks but - sorry - your description and hints seem to cover the
inverse case. I am trying to access files on an XP box from a Vista
laptop (not the other way round).
I am using the MS firewall (on both systems), the two systems are both
in workgroup "WORKGROUP" and there is the same user-ID on both, but with
different passwords. I don't see, why the latter poses such a problem
(if it is the reason for the problem...). If the system asks me for
user-id and pwd OF THE OTHER system, then I enter the correct one, but I
still get a "Logon unsuccessful: be sure user name and password are
correct" in 95% of the cases. They ARE correct!!!! Ggrrrrr!
(snippage)
You must use the same passwords and the same user accounts. Of course it
makes a difference. The ones you are entering are *not* correct if they
are different. In a peer-to-peer network (no server), authentication is
done on the local machine since there is no domain controller. This
means that the machine hosting the shared resource must have the
identical user account with identical password on it to authorize access
from the machine requesting the resource. User account "John" with
password 1234 is *not* the same as user account "John" with password
5678 and therefore authorization will be denied. Go through the
following general network troubleshooting steps systematically. I
understand you are frustrated but you *are* doing something wrong and
no, setting up a Vista-to-XP network is not difficult and normally takes
about 5 minutes with only two machines.
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Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may
look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions
below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting
up your sharing.
Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
files and folders:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).
Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two
firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party
firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on
all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating
system does not permit it.
For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent
small network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista.
http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:
A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.
B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you
wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular
user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at
this link work for both XP and Vista:
Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:
1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.
2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest
(network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on
the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but
only you can decide if it matters in your situation.
E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about
Vista sharing.
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Get the network sharing set up correctly and your network will not reset
itself to Public.
Malke