Windows XP OEM Full version from Newegg.com question

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Jason C

I purchased a full version OEM copy of XP Professional
from newegg.com along with a video card to fullfil the
hardware purchase requirement and had this question :

Do I have the right to install the software on another
computer if I permanently remove it from the PC it is on
now ? Looking to buy a barebone soon and dont want to
have to purchase another copy of windows. The Sticker on
the wrapping said 1-2 cpus so I dont know whats happening
here ....
 
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peter

yes you can remove from one and then install onto another.
you are licensed to use XP on one system only....one at a time that is
peter
 
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Phillips

Guess you can move OEM XP as long as you move the video card in the new
system since the OEM XP sells with the video card; of course, you can have
more video cards in the new system :)
Best is to ask your lawyer :)
Michael
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

No. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable
to another computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason
some people avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise
disposed of (even stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new
PC.

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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

Not an OEM license, he can't.

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Ron Martell

Jason C said:
I purchased a full version OEM copy of XP Professional
from newegg.com along with a video card to fullfil the
hardware purchase requirement and had this question :

Do I have the right to install the software on another
computer if I permanently remove it from the PC it is on
now ? Looking to buy a barebone soon and dont want to
have to purchase another copy of windows. The Sticker on
the wrapping said 1-2 cpus so I dont know whats happening
here ....

What did you do with the video card?

If it is installed in the same computer as you installed the OEM XP
Pro into then that license is permanently locked to that computer and
cannot be legitimately transferred to another computer under any
circumstances.

However if you did not use the video card then the question becomes a
bit more murky, and depends on the wording of the EULA for that
specific OEM version. Most OEM versions say that when the license is
sold with a computer component then that license becomes locked to the
computer that the component is installed in.

So read the EULA (EULA.TXT in your Windows\System32 folder) and see
what it says.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

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Phillips

Geez,
what if your video card that came with OEM XP crashes after the warranty
period? Wonder what the EULA demands in this case :)
Michael
 
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peter

That seems a little harsh
I have seen XP Home and Pro OEM listed for sale with various pieces of Hardware
from a video card to a router.This of course begs the question if you move the
hardware to the new computer can you then install the OEM onto that computer???
peter
 
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D.Currie

What is technically correct based on the EULA and what is possible and what
is sensible can be entirely different things.
 
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Paul

i've been looking in to this as i thought about purchasing
an OEM version of Windows XP and found this link.....

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

about 2/3rd's down the page you will see the activation is
based on hash values and a points system for particular
components in your machine at the time of activation. If
components are changed and this doesnt match the original
hash values to the degree of the points system then
reactivation is needed from Microsoft.

Paul
 
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Miss Perspicacia Tick

Jason said:
I purchased a full version OEM copy of XP Professional
from newegg.com along with a video card to fullfil the
hardware purchase requirement and had this question :

Do I have the right to install the software on another
computer if I permanently remove it from the PC it is on
now ?

No you don't. Read the EULA: -

"* Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR
USED CONCURRENTLY ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS.
The SOFTWARE is licensed with the COMPUTER as a single
integrated product and may only be used with the COMPUTER."

Looking to buy a barebone soon and dont want to
have to purchase another copy of windows. The Sticker on
the wrapping said 1-2 cpus so I dont know whats happening
here ....

*SIGH* not another idiot who thinks a CPU is a computer! CPU = Central
Processing Unit, how can that be a computer?! Of course it's a full
version - you can't upgrade from nothing!

1-2 CPUs means it can be installed on a uni or dual processor system.
 
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peter

System Locked Pre-installation," or SLP.

Successfully implemented, SLP uses information stored in an OEM PC's BIOS to
protect the installation from casual piracy. No communication by the end
customer to Microsoft is required and no hardware hash is created or necessary.
At boot, Windows XP compares the PC's BIOS to the SLP information. If it
matches, no activation is required.

Every single piece of hardware could be changed on a PC with SLP and no
reactivation would be required - even the motherboard could be replaced as long
as the replacement motherboard was original equipment manufactured by the OEM
and retained the proper BIOS. In the unlikely scenario that the BIOS information
does not match, the PC would need to be activated within 30 days by contacting
the Microsoft activation center via the Internet or telephone call - just as in
a retail scenario.

OEMs may also activate Windows XP by contacting Microsoft in the same way the
consumer would activate. Activation done in this way is the same as activating a
retail boxed version of Windows XP. This is discussed in more detail further
below.

The way I read this is that XP basically does a copy of the BIOS and if it
matches mostly its OK.

If the new system has a MOBO from the same Manufacturer with a lets say Pheonix
Bios of 475mb the same size as the old system you are OK.....If not you need to
activate over the phone and explain

But as somebody else said what the EULA says can be done and what you can
actually do are 2 different things.

peter
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

It's not at all harsh. In fact, the lack of "transferability" is
one of the reasons an OEM license costs so much less than a retail
license. After all, you get what you pay for.

Nor does it beg the question: "if you move the hardware to the new
computer can you then install the OEM onto that computer???" The OEM
EULA states that the software becomes a integral part of the PC onto
which it's installed. Once installed, it stays.


Bruce Chambers
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peter

Got it.........but what ties it to that computer???
What stops one from deleting it from system#1 and installing into system#2??
If I buy a video card and an OEM of XP and install into #1 and at a later date
build a new system using the afore mentioned video card what stops OEM XP from
intalling onto new system after I delete it from #1??
just curious
peter
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

peter said:
Got it.........but what ties it to that computer???
What stops one from deleting it from system#1 and installing into
system#2??

The only thing really stopping one, in this case, is one's
personal integrity. The OEM EULA contains the conditions to which the
computer user has agreed to be bound whilst using the software. In
affect (and legally, actually), the EULA is a binding and enforceable
contract; violating its terms no different than reneging on a loan
contract or going back on one's word. But, as Microsoft is loathe to
create a public relations nightmare by "going after the little guy,"
the only thing stopping one from safely violating the EULA is one's
integrity. An honest person won't do it, and everyone else will find
some way to rationalize it, claiming Bill Gates is already rich
enough, or something similar.


Bruce Chambers
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peter

Thank you for your reply
I did look this up in more detail but there was no info on this particular
situation.
peter
 
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Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

You're welcome.

Bruce Chambers
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