Windows XP and Dell Dimension 4600

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Guest

I am having a hardware related problem (I am assuming). I have this DELL
system which is 2 years old. Sometimes when trying to power on I get
nothing. Then after the power supply is plugged in for a while it flickers
off and on, then eventually when I push the power on button it will power on.
The system is acting very strange. I also cannot plug in any USB devices
before bootup or the system will not see them.

Could this be my power supply. or am i missing something...
 
M

Malke

CDSTECH said:
I am having a hardware related problem (I am assuming). I have this
DELL
system which is 2 years old. Sometimes when trying to power on I get
nothing. Then after the power supply is plugged in for a while it
flickers off and on, then eventually when I push the power on button
it will power on.
The system is acting very strange. I also cannot plug in any USB
devices
before bootup or the system will not see them.

Could this be my power supply. or am i missing something...

I would certainly start with swapping out the power supply for a
known-working one.

Malke
 
G

Guest

Malke said:
I would certainly start with swapping out the power supply for a
known-working one.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


One more question. Should I use a DELL REPLACEMENT PSU or can I use a ATX
with the same ratings. I am getting controversial feedback on this question.
Any input ???
 
B

Bob I

I know that some Dell motherboards have reversed a couple of wires from
the power supply connector, effectively making them "proprietary". You
could google up the info if you wanted to use a "non-Dell" but I
wouldn't recommend it for the time and effort.
 
M

Malke

CDSTECH said:
One more question. Should I use a DELL REPLACEMENT PSU or can I use a
ATX
with the same ratings. I am getting controversial feedback on this
question.
Any input ???

Excellent question, since older Dells did have proprietary psu's. I
should have included the information for you since before I replied the
first time I Googled for "Dell Dimension 4600 proprietary power
supply?". The links I got indicate that the 4600 does *not* use a
proprietary psu so you can use an off-the-shelf one.

Malke
 
G

Guest

Malke said:
Excellent question, since older Dells did have proprietary psu's. I
should have included the information for you since before I replied the
first time I Googled for "Dell Dimension 4600 proprietary power
supply?". The links I got indicate that the 4600 does *not* use a
proprietary psu so you can use an off-the-shelf one.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Well Thank you very very much. I did replace the power supply, "GLAD IT
WASNT PROPIETARY!!", and now the only issue I am having is my USB devices
still will not work if plugged in during boot.

I am running XP HOME EDITION W SP2. The particuliar device I am trying to
use is a mouse. If I unplug and plug back in after boot, no problems,
otherwise it acts like it was never there.
 
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Malke

CDSTECH wrote:

Well Thank you very very much. I did replace the power supply, "GLAD
IT WASNT PROPIETARY!!", and now the only issue I am having is my USB
devices still will not work if plugged in during boot.

I am running XP HOME EDITION W SP2. The particuliar device I am
trying to
use is a mouse. If I unplug and plug back in after boot, no problems,
otherwise it acts like it was never there.

I don't have a definitive answer for you, but have you checked on Dell's
website for your specific machine for any updated drivers (chipset or
USB)?

Malke
 
G

Guest

Malke said:
CDSTECH wrote:



I don't have a definitive answer for you, but have you checked on Dell's
website for your specific machine for any updated drivers (chipset or
USB)?

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

THANKS AGAIN!!.. I did find an issue that seemed to be related to Windows XP
SP2, after further digging I discovered another issue related to needing a
BIOS update. I checked and the machine had already been flashed. SOOO...I
looked a little farther, and even though it did not seem related to my issue,
I found an article regarding a black screen during boot after applying SP2.
The article indicated you needed to go into BIOS and Set the USB to NO BOOT.
Even though I was not having the issue described I went into BIOS "(AND
ALTHOUGH THIS MAKES NO SENSE)" and changed the setting under USB to NO BOOT.
GUESS WHAT! All my USB devices now work during bootup.

I made sure that I answered "WAS THIS POST HELPFUL" and "DID THIS POST
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION" so you get proper credit. I really appreciate the
folks like you who "WATCH" the groups and try to help guys like me. Funny
thing is I used to be a guy like you during my days at EDS, but I have been
out of the business so long, I just dont know where to search like I use to.
Thanks again, and I see you work for a rather odd named company, but
obviously know your stuff. I will think of you in the future when I have an
issue. If you ever get into trouble with WIN NT or Small Business Server
4.5, those where, well are, my specialty. I need to bring myself up to date.
THANKS AGAIN
 
M

Malke

CDSTECH said:
THANKS AGAIN!!.. I did find an issue that seemed to be related to
Windows XP SP2, after further digging I discovered another issue
related to needing a
BIOS update. I checked and the machine had already been flashed.
SOOO...I looked a little farther, and even though it did not seem
related to my issue, I found an article regarding a black screen
during boot after applying SP2. The article indicated you needed to go
into BIOS and Set the USB to NO BOOT. Even though I was not having the
issue described I went into BIOS "(AND ALTHOUGH THIS MAKES NO SENSE)"
and changed the setting under USB to NO BOOT.
GUESS WHAT! All my USB devices now work during bootup.

I made sure that I answered "WAS THIS POST HELPFUL" and "DID THIS POST
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION" so you get proper credit. I really appreciate
the
folks like you who "WATCH" the groups and try to help guys like me.
Funny thing is I used to be a guy like you during my days at EDS, but
I have been out of the business so long, I just dont know where to
search like I use to. Thanks again, and I see you work for a rather
odd named company, but
obviously know your stuff. I will think of you in the future when I
have an
issue. If you ever get into trouble with WIN NT or Small Business
Server
4.5, those where, well are, my specialty. I need to bring myself up
to date.
THANKS AGAIN

Awesome! I'm so glad I was able to help you a little - you need to give
yourself the lion's share of the credit though. You did a great job of
troubleshooting and it was really nice that you took the time to post
the solution. It will help others searching this group in the future.

Thank you for your very lovely words, too. You really made my day.

Take care,

Malke (I own Elephant Boy Computers and yes, it *is* an odd name but it
suits.) :)
 

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