Windows Users - Don't upgrade until you read this!

[Guest]

I know people who upgraded to Windows XP or Vista, but they never really seem
to notice, why doesn't my computer work as good as it did before I upgraded?

Here is what I think are the problems:

1. HARDWARE - As you see in my last post, I had accidently installed XP SP1
when I wanted SP2. Now, I need to reinstall most of my hardware!

2. SOFTWARE - This is no different then as with hardware! You need to
reinstall ALL.

3. OLD USER CONFIGURATION
By this, I don't mean that this is your fault. Installing a new version
of Windows might cause settings to be overridden therefore, possibly damaging
hardware and software.

Now, I'm not saying that it WILL happen, I just thought I should let Windows
users know that upgrading may cause system faults.

But whether you want to upgrade or not, it is entirely up to you!
(Microsoft, take heart!)

If you can prove me wrong, let me know!

 

[Guest]

John, I think your post is misleading, it's obvious you had issues, mostly
due to operator error, I've never had the issues you've had due to an
upgrade, mostly because I tried to find out as much as possible before I
attempted the upgrade, same with adding hardware, you just don't leap into
something without some attempt at learning what your doing before you do it.

Nobody can prove you wrong, as nobody knows what the heck you did wrong, but
you admit to errors, so there I guess is your proof.

 

[peter]

"Your Registry is corrupted, please visit this website
this is the clue that you became infected with whatever...........and as
answered in your previous post it only takes a little bit of security to
stop this trash from infecting your system.You also seemed to be unaware
that SP2 was added to XP for security reasons to prevent exactly what you
had.Both SP1 and SP2 are add ons to the original XP.What your post is
telling me is that you had XP SP1 you then updated to SP2..........then you
had some problems and needed to reinstall XP....SP1 because thats what your
system came with...and bang!! you became infected because you had neither
Anti-virus...not anti adware....nor Firewall and you went on the Internet.
The term clueless come to mind at this point....I mean it has been mentioned
in a multitude of media that XP needs all of the security mentioned to be
active and working before connecting to the net to upgrade to
SP2............
Yes I understand its a machine and as such needs to be "told" what to
do....but do you understand that??
its just another appliance.......and as such it needs maintenance once in
awhile!!!
If you wiped your machine by installing XP...wether it be SP1 or SP2 ..you
would need to load the drivers for the various pieces of hardware that are
in your machine.The same goes for software...a wipe is just what it says it
is...........it wipes your hard drive clean everything gone!!! In computer
talk its called a format.If you used one of those terrible pieces of
software that some manufacturers include with the purchase called a
"recovery CD" or worse just a "recovery Partition" and you were foolish
enough NOT to make a BACK UP of your files and settings.........hey what can
I say ??..........tough shit
This newsgroup and just about every newsgroup that I have ever looked at has
almost religiously sermonized on the virtues of having a proper backup and
has even listed the multitude of programs that let you do that.
So dont come here and whine about "upgrading"
be a man and owe up to the fact that you screwed up!!
peter

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

1. HARDWARE - As you see in my last post, I had accidently installed XP SP1
when I wanted SP2. Now, I need to reinstall most of my hardware!

You need moron protection installed on your computer.

 

[xfile]

Hi,

I guess you must experience many problems, and you have my sympathy.

Whose fault should be blamed is relatively less important, at least to me,
but I would strongly advise you or others to do a clean install for all
"new" OSes instead of upgrade.

I know it may take longer time, but that's the factor should be taken into
considerations for "upgrading" to a new OS.

Upgrade installations just have too many unknown variables which could
easily go wrong.

Hope this helps and good luck.

 

[Gordon]

I know people who upgraded to Windows XP or Vista, but they never really
seem
to notice, why doesn't my computer work as good as it did before I
upgraded?

Here is what I think are the problems:

1. HARDWARE - As you see in my last post, I had accidently installed XP
SP1
when I wanted SP2. Now, I need to reinstall most of my hardware!

Rubbish. just install SP2.....I've NEVER heard of anyone having to
re-install hardware for SP2.....

2. SOFTWARE - This is no different then as with hardware! You need to
reinstall ALL.

Again absolute TWADDLE. yes if you do a clean install of Windows you will
need to re-install all your software - if you just install SP2 then it's
possible that SOME of the more obscure software may not work with it, but
your software vendor may well have released a patch for that.

3. OLD USER CONFIGURATION
By this, I don't mean that this is your fault. Installing a new version
of Windows might cause settings to be overridden therefore, possibly
damaging
hardware and software.

Now, I'm not saying that it WILL happen, I just thought I should let
Windows
users know that upgrading may cause system faults.

But whether you want to upgrade or not, it is entirely up to you!
(Microsoft, take heart!)

If you can prove me wrong, let me know!

Yes, VERY wrong.

 

[Leythos]

I know people who upgraded to Windows XP or Vista, but they never really
seem to notice, why doesn't my computer work as good as it did before I
upgraded?

A new O/S will never be as problem free as the old one, this was the case
with Windows, Windows 95, Windows 98, 98SE, NT4, 2000, XP and Vista,
during the initial conversion steps. That's the reason you don't install
a new O/S until the vendor provides SP1 for the new O/S.

Additionally, the new O/S will be slower on the exact same hardware, but,
anyone that cares would have already done the pre-research and be aware
of these things before the upgrade.

Here is what I think are the problems:

1. HARDWARE - As you see in my last post, I had accidently installed XP
SP1 when I wanted SP2. Now, I need to reinstall most of my hardware!

No, based on what you wrote you had already compromised your PC before
attempting to install a SP. SP2 will not provide that warning, so, it
stands to reason that your machine was compromised before you started.

2. SOFTWARE - This is no different then as with hardware! You need to
reinstall ALL.

I've done thousands of "Upgrades" and other than checking to make sure
that the apps are compatible I've not had to replace/reinstall software.
I do like to wipe/install instead of reinstall, but that's just from
years of experience.

3. OLD USER CONFIGURATION
By this, I don't mean that this is your fault. Installing a new
version
of Windows might cause settings to be overridden therefore, possibly
damaging hardware and software.

And everyone knows this, if not, they are ignorant by choice - you always
research before doing something - in addition to making a BACKUP.

Now, I'm not saying that it WILL happen, I just thought I should let
Windows users know that upgrading may cause system faults.

But whether you want to upgrade or not, it is entirely up to you!
(Microsoft, take heart!)

If you can prove me wrong, let me know!

Your problems were caused by a compromised computer BEFORE you started,
based on your own statements, you didn't research the upgrade first, and
you are trying to warn others without understanding your mistakes.

--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling
a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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[George]

You need moron protection installed on your computer.

If everyone blacklisted your smart alek ass then they would have that moron
protection you speak of

George

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Hi,

I guess you must experience many problems, and you have my sympathy.

Whose fault should be blamed is relatively less important, at least to me,
but I would strongly advise you or others to do a clean install for all
"new" OSes instead of upgrade.

I know it may take longer time, but that's the factor should be taken into
considerations for "upgrading" to a new OS.

Upgrade installations just have too many unknown variables which could
easily go wrong.

I strongly disagree. This was a valid point of view several years ago,
back in the days of Windows 9X. But with more modern versions of
Windows, an upgrade installation replaces almost everything anyway,
and almost always works very well. My recommendation is to at least
try the upgrade; if it goes well (and it probably will) you will have
saved lots of time. Worst case, if it causes problems, you can also
redo it as a clean installation.

The one exception to this is that I do not recommend doing an upgrade
if you are currently experiencing problems. Some people upgrade with
the hope that it will solve their problems, but it is more likely to
exacerbate them.

 

[xfile]

But with more modern versions of

Windows, an upgrade installation replaces almost everything anyway,
and almost always works very well.

Since you used the word "almost", that means you cannot guarantee it will
work 100%, right? I don't think Microsoft will also guarantee 100%.

Now the bottom line is, how people want to deal with the worst case
scenario. You have your own solutions, which are fully respected, but
doesn't mean it's the best practice in the world.

Others have their own (also may not be the best in the world), and in my
case, I prefer to use a clean install and when it goes wrong, I could choose
to deal with it or put back the original HDD to continue my work.

With your solution, when the worst case scenario comes out, one has to solve
it or work cannot be resumed.

Saving time is a consideration, and preparing for the worst case scenario,
on the other hand, is another consideration.

So again, you have your own considerations, but unless you find mine with
potential dangerous effects, learning to respect is something you ought to
do.