Windows Messenger vs MSN Messenger Revisited...

[Glenn Euloth]

Ok. I've read 100 posts about the differences between
MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger.

I want the cool features of whiteboard sharing, remote
assistance, etc. so I'll stick with Windows Messenger 4.7
for now... BUT... (and you knew there was a "but") when
will Windows Messenger have the "cool" bells and whistles
of MSN Messenger such as putting your image in the chat
window, etc? Will this ever happen? Will the two
products merge?

I don't see why Microsoft has to manage two completely
independent programs, can't you just have one messenger
tool which detects that it is being installed on XP and
adds in the extra features that XP users might want such
as the remote assistance, etc.?

Regards, Glenn Euloth

 

[JW]

If you go to the folowing link

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/livecomm/faq.asp

You will see the following:

"

Microsoft Windows Messenger 5.0 is required for communicating with
Live Communications Server 2003. Windows Messenger 5.0 is the first
Microsoft instant messaging client designed specifically for the enterprise
environment and is designed to take advantage of the enterprise features of
Live Communications Server 2003. With Windows Messenger 5.0, you can take
advantage of Active Directory integration, user searching, roaming contacts,
integration with products in the Microsoft Office System, and many other
features.

"

This statement implies to me that the MSN Messenger will be the
product of choice for home users since it has many cool features desired by
non enterprise users.








Microsoft Windows Messenger 5.0 is required for communicating with Live
Communications Server 2003. Windows Messenger 5.0 is the first Microsoft
instant messaging client designed specifically for the enterprise
environment and is designed to take advantage of the enterprise features of
Live Communications Server 2003. With Windows Messenger 5.0, you can take
advantage of Active Directory integration, user searching, roaming contacts,
integration with products in the Microsoft Office System, and many other
features.

Greetings Glenn,

Actually until MSN Messenger 5 and Windows Messenger 4.7, they *were* merged (they were the
same product, just a different name depending on what operating system you installed it on).
Windows Messenger isn't expected to have the new[er] 'MSN Messenger' features (like display
pictures, etc.) any time soon, as they are separate products.

Both MSN Messenger 6 and Windows Messenger have support for Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and
Application Sharing (of course, Windows Messenger must remain installed for them all to
work).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

Ok. I've read 100 posts about the differences between
MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger.

I want the cool features of whiteboard sharing, remote
assistance, etc. so I'll stick with Windows Messenger 4.7
for now... BUT... (and you knew there was a "but") when
will Windows Messenger have the "cool" bells and whistles
of MSN Messenger such as putting your image in the chat
window, etc? Will this ever happen? Will the two
products merge?

I don't see why Microsoft has to manage two completely
independent programs, can't you just have one messenger
tool which detects that it is being installed on XP and
adds in the extra features that XP users might want such
as the remote assistance, etc.?

Regards, Glenn Euloth

 

[Glenn Euloth]

Thanks for the quick answer. So the posts I read before
that said you can do the Remote Assistance with Windows
Messenger but not MSN Messenger was before the MSN
Messenger 6.0 release or is it just that you lose those
features if you completely un-install Windows Messenger.

So, ideally, if I install MSN Messenger 6.0 and set
Windows messenger to not load on start up then I can have
the best of both worlds. And as JW points out Windows
Messenger can be set up in an Intranet/Corporate
environment.

I'll give it a try and see if I miss anything. I can
always go back if I find a problem. Thanks again!

Regards, Glenn

-----Original Message-----
Greetings Glenn,

Actually until MSN Messenger 5 and Windows Messenger

4.7, they *were* merged (they were the

same product, just a different name depending on what

operating system you installed it on).

Windows Messenger isn't expected to have the new

[er] 'MSN Messenger' features (like display

pictures, etc.) any time soon, as they are separate products.

Both MSN Messenger 6 and Windows Messenger have support

for Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and

Application Sharing (of course, Windows Messenger must

remain installed for them all to

 

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Glenn,

The later -- with Windows Messenger fully removed, these features will not work.

And you have it exactly right, that's the "ideal" scenario if you want to use MSN Messenger 6
but not [see] Windows Messenger.

No problem =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

Thanks for the quick answer. So the posts I read before
that said you can do the Remote Assistance with Windows
Messenger but not MSN Messenger was before the MSN
Messenger 6.0 release or is it just that you lose those
features if you completely un-install Windows Messenger.

So, ideally, if I install MSN Messenger 6.0 and set
Windows messenger to not load on start up then I can have
the best of both worlds. And as JW points out Windows
Messenger can be set up in an Intranet/Corporate
environment.

I'll give it a try and see if I miss anything. I can
always go back if I find a problem. Thanks again!

Regards, Glenn

-----Original Message-----
Greetings Glenn,

Actually until MSN Messenger 5 and Windows Messenger

4.7, they *were* merged (they were the

same product, just a different name depending on what

operating system you installed it on).

Windows Messenger isn't expected to have the new

[er] 'MSN Messenger' features (like display

pictures, etc.) any time soon, as they are separate products.

Both MSN Messenger 6 and Windows Messenger have support

for Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and

Application Sharing (of course, Windows Messenger must

remain installed for them all to

work).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com




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