Windows Explorer fails and fails and fails...

[Bill]

Windows has never been a secure operating system. UAC is like having a
steel door with locks and Styrofoam walls. Since the malware and virus
business is so profitable to the gangs that utilize them, it is probably
only a matter of time before they figure out a way to breach Linux.
Proprietary drivers is probably one area that they can work with. This
is probably the best argument for keeping the entire system open source.

With Linux unprotected, I have never experienced a virus. With Windows,
I can not leave it on for very long unprotected without picking up
spyware, malware, and viruses. If something should infect one of my
Linux browsers, I can delete the hidden .dir in the user area and return
the browser to its pristine condition. I said, if it should, it hasn't
happened yet. Occasionally, I will run rkhunter or clam to check
things, but nothing has turned up yet. My weakest link on my system is
the Windows XP in a virtual machine. I have it heavily protected. I
have a fat32 partition for sending files to a 'common area'. I use
avast and clamscan to check that partition. At one time, an anti-virus
and spyware program were adequate to protect your windows system, but I
believe that we are entering a new era, where the protection will be
overwhelmed by the efforts of the gangs.

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For those who are using Linux, you can install clam and use the following
command to check all your hidden dir
su
password
clamscan -r .*

or

sudo clamscan -r .*

 

[Richard Urban]

So, with Linux "unprotected" you have never experienced a virus?

Gee. Who would write exploit code for 1/2 of 1% of all the computers used
world wide. What does "any" Linux user have on his computer that the
thieves' want? To what benefit or advantage.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Stephan Rose]

So, with Linux "unprotected" you have never experienced a virus?

Gee. Who would write exploit code for 1/2 of 1% of all the computers used
world wide. What does "any" Linux user have on his computer that the
thieves' want? To what benefit or advantage.

Well I think the number is a little larger than 1%, especially if you
consider world-wide. I don't think that the rest of the world is quite as
MS friendly as the US. =)

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[Don]

So, with Linux "unprotected" you have never experienced a virus?

Gee. Who would write exploit code for 1/2 of 1% of all the computers
used world wide. What does "any" Linux user have on his computer that
the thieves' want?...

One more network-connected platform. Every 'bot is worth money to a
modern hacker, and a linux server is a very tasty morsel indeed.

 

[MICHAEL]

* Stephan Rose:

Well I think the number is a little larger than 1%, especially if you
consider world-wide.

I don't think that the rest of the world is quite as
MS friendly as the US. =)

China. There, it's free Linux or free XP and/or Vista.
Windows wins hands down. ;-)


-Michael

 

[Bill]

So, with Linux "unprotected" you have never experienced a virus?

Gee. Who would write exploit code for 1/2 of 1% of all the computers
used world wide. What does "any" Linux user have on his computer that
the thieves' want? To what benefit or advantage.

Such arrogance is the hallmark of Microsoft and its minions...Keep up the
attitude and more people will go for the alternatives. In fact, I
encourage you...Wallow in your arrogance...Take lessons from Steve.

I have never experienced a virus and I have never found one using
clamscan or rkhunter.

 

[Richard Urban]

Face it Bill. You can't GIVE Linux away in China. Everyone is too bust
pirating and stealing Windows XP and Vista.

Whatever you may think about Linux - IT IS NOT A WINNER!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Frank]

Bill wrote:

Such arrogance...

Coming from a linux loser that's a real hoot!

| is the hallmark of Microsoft and its minions

....I hope you and your fellow linux minions, didn't forget to bow down,
pray and pay homage to RS & LT everyday before you fire up those
unprotected linux box.

| Keep up the attitude...

Oh, don't worry, what comes around goes around.

| and more people will go for the alternatives.

In your dreams sweetheart...only in your dreams.

| In fact, I encourage you...Wallow in your arrogance...Take lessons
from Steve.

Why, when you, doris day (snort) and all the rest of the linux losers
are such stunning examples of as**oles!

| I have never experienced a virus and I have never found one using
clamscan or rkhunter.

Go ahead...make my day!
(smirk)
Frank

 

[Mark R. Cusumano]

Frankly I always preferred freeBSD to Linux anyway. It was closer to Unix.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Face it Bill. You can't GIVE Linux away in China. Everyone is too bust
pirating and stealing Windows XP and Vista.

Whatever you may think about Linux - IT IS NOT A WINNER!

Ehh Richard, I wouldn't quite say it like that.

I just upgraded to the alpha version of the latest Ubuntu today and I gotta
say and let me tell you the gap to windows is getting extremely narrow.

The only two weak spots I honestly really see remaining:
- Third party application/game support
- Handling video driver update when upgrading the Kernel could be smoother
as I had to manually reinstall my nVidia driver.

Though to be entirely honest, I can't even 100% say on the nVidia driver
issue that it isn't an issue with my system. This install is on it's 4th OS
release now has been switched from release to beta to release and now to
alpha release.

So on the driver issue I had, I cannot rule out a fault in my own system.
I'd have to see how things behave on a clean install to be able to rule my
system out and don't feel like doing that.

And this is looking from the desktop perspective. The only thing I still use
Windows for at home is to play games on it. I literally reduced Windows to
nothing more than my PS2.

From the *server* perspective however, having two windows servers right now
I can only tell ya one thing. NEVER AGAIN!

One of the servers just got infected so insanely bad with viruses that it
was just pathetic. It went from 0 viruses to swarming like a friggin
beehive overnight.

There is no way I will ever again in my life use Windows on a server...

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[Bill]

Bill wrote:

Such arrogance...

Coming from a linux loser that's a real hoot!

| is the hallmark of Microsoft and its minions

...I hope you and your fellow linux minions, didn't forget to bow down,
pray and pay homage to RS & LT everyday before you fire up those
unprotected linux box.

| Keep up the attitude...

Oh, don't worry, what comes around goes around.

| and more people will go for the alternatives.

In your dreams sweetheart...only in your dreams.

| In fact, I encourage you...Wallow in your arrogance...Take lessons
from Steve.

Why, when you, doris day (snort) and all the rest of the linux losers
are such stunning examples of as**oles!

| I have never experienced a virus and I have never found one using
clamscan or rkhunter.

Go ahead...make my day!
(smirk)
Frank

You prove my point...I would probably have never continued posting on
this newsgroup..except people like you Frank, pissed me off from the very
first day. And I do occasionally have a question, because I work on
Vista infected computers. But I would probably have more luck looking
for an answer on Google, than from you and your self-important bull
shitters masquerading as experts on an operating system that has less
benefit to me than the Vista Strawberry (and Vanilla) sugar wafers that I
purchase at Dollar General. Try saying that last sentence three times,
as fast as you can while chewing gum...If you can do that without
spitting out the gum, you are an MVP.

If Vista would have been half the operating system that Microsoft
promised, I would probably never have started using Linux again last
August. But it wasn't. It sucked when I downloaded and tested it out.
It was a late Beta, but even at that time, I could see the future of this
inept OS, and without further ado, I installed pclinuxos. No problems.
Smooth sailing. With your rose colored glasses you completely ignore and
defend the major deficiencies, claiming that it is running swill on your
computer..(pun intended).

Don't talk about my dear friend Doris. She is cute, adorable, and very
witty, areas in which you are severely lacking.