Windows Boot Manager

R

Rolfe Spiegel

Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option, or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly, but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up in
Vista automatically?
 
D

D. Eth

Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on
top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option,
or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code
is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly,
but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid
of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up
in
Vista automatically?


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
 
R

Rolfe Spiegel

Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.

Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks

D. Eth said:
Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on
top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option,
or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code
is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly,
but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid
of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up
in
Vista automatically?


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
 
D

D. Eth

Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.

Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks

D. Eth said:
Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
on
top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
option,
or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
code
is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
correctly,
but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
rid
of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
up
in
Vista automatically?


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392


did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?

Make sure you do.
If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.

Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.

They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
issue.
 
R

Rolfe Spiegel

Hello,

Yes, I tried with /fixboot. No avail.
Thanks for the ideas. It is not an urgent fix, just inconvenient. It has
been this way for some time, and I've added a zillion apps to the Vista
instance, thus hesitancy to rebuild from scratch.

I'll keep looking for options.

Thanks
Rolfe

D. Eth said:
Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.

Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks

D. Eth said:
Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
on
top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
option,
or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
code
is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
correctly,
but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
rid
of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
up
in
Vista automatically?



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392


did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?

Make sure you do.
If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.

Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.

They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
issue.
 
R

Rolfe Spiegel

Well, I fixed it.
Turned out to be an entry in the boot.ini, but the boot manager is that of
Vista. BCD did not show the bogus/default entry for "Windows Server 2003
Standard Edition Setup" and boot.ini did not show the entry for "Microsoft
Windows Vista", that was the confusing part. I guess Vista Boot Manager
somehow combines BCD and boot.ini. I don't know why it chose Windows 2003 as
the default, I couldn't find that.

By manually editing out the Windows 2003 entries in boot.ini, the Vista Boot
Manager starts correctly, with focus on Vista and no entry for Windows 2003.


Old and current BCD (did/does not show Win2003 entry seen in Boot Mgr):
===============================
c:\>bcdedit /enum

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 10

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e8709fb7-fa5f-11db-be4d-e219ece5282e}
nx OptOut
===============================

Old boot.ini (showing Win2003 entry):
==================
;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
[operating systems]
c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard
Edition Setup"
====================

Current boot.ini (Win2003 entry removed):
=====================
;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=30
[operating systems]
=========================

Thank folks for providing suggestions-
Rolfe





Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hello,

Yes, I tried with /fixboot. No avail.
Thanks for the ideas. It is not an urgent fix, just inconvenient. It has
been this way for some time, and I've added a zillion apps to the Vista
instance, thus hesitancy to rebuild from scratch.

I'll keep looking for options.

Thanks
Rolfe

D. Eth said:
Rolfe Spiegel said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.

Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks

:

Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
on
top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
option,
or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
code
is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
correctly,
but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
rid
of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
up
in
Vista automatically?



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392


did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?

Make sure you do.
If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.

Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.

They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
issue.
 
D

D. Eth

Rolfe Spiegel said:
Well, I fixed it.
Turned out to be an entry in the boot.ini, but the boot manager is that of
Vista. BCD did not show the bogus/default entry for "Windows Server 2003
Standard Edition Setup" and boot.ini did not show the entry for "Microsoft
Windows Vista", that was the confusing part. I guess Vista Boot Manager
somehow combines BCD and boot.ini. I don't know why it chose Windows 2003
as
the default, I couldn't find that.

By manually editing out the Windows 2003 entries in boot.ini, the Vista
Boot
Manager starts correctly, with focus on Vista and no entry for Windows
2003.


Awesome.
Never thought of the boot.ini file.
Good suggestion for the future... Thanks
 

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