Windows Authentication Problem

[chuckdfoster]

I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows
Authentication. It works until I take the "Everyone" group away from the
permissions. Then it won't let anyone in, including the domain admins or
local admins.

Has anyone else ever seen this problem or know away around it?

Thanks,
Chuck Foster
Programmer Analyst
Eclipsys Corp. - St. Vincent Health System

 

[Ken Halter]

I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows

You'll find that any group that doesn't contain the word "dotnet" or "vsnet"
is not a .Net related group. *.public.vb.* groups are all for VB Classic...
no .Net anywhere in sight around here..

 

[chuckdfoster]

Ok, sorry about that. Does anyone have any ideas about my problem? Still
having problems when I remove the 'Everyone' group.

Thanks, Chuck

 

[Ken Halter]

The on-topic police and MVP's who complain about folks keeping the
discussion on topic should also know how to edit the To: box on their
replies so that their replies remain in the groups they apply to, don't
you think?

DalePres

The "To: box " eh? My reader has a "Newsgroups:" line... no "To: box"
anywhere...

On topic police? Ok... whatever... "DalePres"

When you place files on your PC, are they all in the root folder? or, maybe
you create folders with names that means something, like Pictures for
example, and place all pictures there? Maybe another folder called Source
for source code? Why not place all of your pictures in your Source folder?
Ah heck... just dump everything in the root so you won't have to worry which
"topic" your storing your files in...

Now... tell me how newsgroups are different than folders on your PC... do
you have VB5/6 code mixed with .Net code? Maybe C# code mixed with VB# code?

In your file cabinet, tax papers mixed with your kids drawings? If not, WHY?
If keeping things where they belong is considered a "police action" by you
then.... might was well just toss everything in the same
folder/drawer/whatever.

Yeah... maybe we should just ignore those that post to "off topic" groups so
they'll sit and wonder "why is no one answering my questions".. that would
surely be easier than attempting to point them in the right direction just
to have some yahoo call you the "on topic police".

 

[DalePres]

This is from the Microsoft MVP site.

"For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."

Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh well....
It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?

Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier approach.
Or less caffeine.

DalePres

 

[DalePres]

Just a thought but are you making sure that, in the advanced permissions
screen, you have the allow inheritable permissions box checked and the check
box to apply the changes to subfolders checked? Generally you don't need
both, but if the permissions have been customized beyond functionality,
setting both boxes before saving your changed permissions will sometimes fix
things.

DalePres
MCAD, MCSE, MCDBA

 

[Galen Somerville]

Oh no, top posting too

Galen

This is from the Microsoft MVP site.

"For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."

Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh well....
It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?

Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier approach.
Or less caffeine.

DalePres

 

[Björn Holmgren]

This is from the Microsoft MVP site.

"For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."

Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh well....
It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?

Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of telling the
OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you didn't
notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if someone
(incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking for
answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling". It's
called "helping".

If you take some time to browse through the different microsoft.public.vb.*
newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a great
deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like someone
who isn't willing to share?

Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier approach.
Or less caffeine.

Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she doesn't
have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.

I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup etiquette.

 

[Patrick Olurotimi Ige]

Did DalePres advice worked for you?
Patrick

 

[DalePres]

His reply to the original post was arrogant rude. Had he just suggested the
proper group, I wouldn't have even noticed his post. Instead of a courteous
and helpful pointer, he chose to lord over the OP. And what's so funny
about the whole thing, I read Ken's reply in the C# newsgroup. So Ken,
while in the act of criticizing the newsgroup etiquette of others, made a
blunder of his own by posting across newsgroups.

And that is just the kind of arrogance I was responding to. It is ok for
him to be less than perfect, but all of us lesser human beings had better be
perfect or stay out of the lord's court. He was wrong. He was out of line.
And he was arrogant. That's all there is to it.

 

[DalePres]

Pardon me. I meant that I saw Ken's reply on the ASP.Net newsgroup. But
either way, Ken was cross-posting while criticizing the OP about
cross-posting. Kinda makes you say ahhhh.

DalePres

 

[Björn Holmgren]

Read again! He didn't criticize the crosspost, but the OT post. To be fair,
it wasn't even criticism at all, just information. I fail to see the
rudeness in Ken's reply, but maybe you could tell us which part you found so
offensive. At this point, it seems you are *slightly* overreacting. Maybe
*you* should cut back on the caffeine ;-)

Have a good day!

 

[DalePres]

In either case, cross posting or off-topic posting, they're both less than
ideal newsgroup protocol (as is the continuance of this topic at all).
Still, Ken violated the best standards of newsgroup behavior while
criticizing another of violating newsgroup behavior. Ken could have said,
"Perhaps you could try your question in the ASP.Net groups" but instead he
made a snide post.

Secondly, the original poster's email address was included in his post, but
rather than a private helpful hint about newsgroup protocol, Ken responded
very publicly, and across groups. When you criticize publicly, you should
expect a public response.

And when I first posted back about Ken's response, I posted it only in the
VB group, where Ken's reply was at least kind of on-topic and Ken added the
ASP.Net group back in when he replied to me. Clearly Ken likes to criticize
in publicly as possible but just doesn't want to hear it back.

I don't think I over-reacted any more than Ken did, though I am sure that it
isn't worth all it has become. That said, it doesn't change the facts. I
am willing to drop the topic, but I am not willing to accept that Ken was
any less wrong than the person he so vocally criticized.

Dale Preston

 

[chuckdfoster]

My problem was that I was removing the 'Everyone' group. This removed my
ASPNET user which is needed to run the asp code. I added ASPNET to the
users and everything works fine.