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The thing is it is considered overclocking by 3%. I have left all voltages
alone, right now the core voltage is 1.192 and sometimes goes to 1.184, so
is that good? Core speed is 3185.0, bus speed 335.3, rated FSB 1341.1, DRAM
freq 536.4

Debbie
 
Oh what I wanted to ask, should I move my case from the enclosed shelf to
the open so the fans could circulate the air better?

Debbie
 
Better air circulation helps, a good case
design will move air from front to back
and some have air filters to reduce dust
buildup inside the case.

A bad location is on the floor as more dust
gets sucked in. See if you can remove the
back cover of the shelf without weakening
the shelf's structural integrity.
 
Also on the core voltage, most motherboard
voltages sensors are not high precision measuring
devices so the real voltage can be slightly different (+ or -)
from what you measured. If you are using an ASUS utility
see if a later update is available on there web site.
 
No I didn't run it yet. After I get done running errors later I will run
it. I did run a stress test in the Everest and the temps got up to around
53c until the stupid virus scan kicked in then it shot up to 70 so I shut
the pc down.

Debbie
 
There hasn't been any recent updates. I guess because this motherboard is a
little outdated now.

Debbie
 
I just ran the Prime95 for 3 hours and 21 minutes and there was no errors or
problems. The temp got up to 58c the highest and 55c the lowest, it kept
jumping for 55, 56, 57 58, it didn't stay on one temp.

Debbie
 
The fact that it ran for 3+ hours is good.
Your PC is stable and the CPU voltage and
memory setting are in the safe range.

What I don't like is the 55 to 58 degree temperatures,
the variation is OK, but even 55 degrees seems too high.

I need to do some research to see if this is normal for your
CPU and the Heatsink/fan that you had installed.

One thing you can do if you haven't done so already is to
open the case cover and check for dust buildup in the fins
the are part of the CPU Heatsink.
 
JS said:
The fact that it ran for 3+ hours is good.
Your PC is stable and the CPU voltage and
memory setting are in the safe range.

What I don't like is the 55 to 58 degree temperatures,
the variation is OK, but even 55 degrees seems too high.

I need to do some research to see if this is normal for your
CPU and the Heatsink/fan that you had installed.

One thing you can do if you haven't done so already is to
open the case cover and check for dust buildup in the fins
the are part of the CPU Heatsink.
Click to expand...

And also the openings in the case need to be free of dust & dirt, too.

Depending on the mfr, it's not that unusual to see 55° or so on the cpu.
Walmart specials always seem to run hot - those are cheapest-bids
without much concern for anything but meeting specs, regardless of how
barely they meet them. I've been told that some companies sort ouf
their "junkers" to fill their orders to the big box stores rather than
put it into the repair lines; I think I believe it. I've even seen two
machines, both Walmart specials, where the cpu's were under-clocked,
apparently to meet the heat specs because the cpu in both was running
real hot. At first I thought it was a clock-down ckt based on temps,
but then I discovered the speed jumper. I replaced the cooling towers,
used the right amount of thermal compound, got a better fan and in both
cases clients were ecstatic over how much better they worked. Oh yeah,
and one sink had a bad clamp; hardly held the sink in place on one side;
I could slide a piece of paper under one side of it.

Cables can mess things up too, especially the wide IDE cables. There
should be a clear path to the vent where the air is intended to exit the
case. In a good machine they're tied so they almost have to be in the
right positions. Nowadays anyway. It didn't use to matter, but ... it
does at the speeds they're running now.

There are two variables to check there, too: The location of the
sensor (internal to the components or actual separate sensors glued to
something) is important and can make the readings questionable too.
I've always thought it was "cute" how you can always get a temp reading
on a hard drive but not the cpu. There have to be reasons for that
beyond the obvious.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
Oh I do clean that out about 3 times a month. Just did it about 2 weeks
ago. I just ordered another fan with higher speed.

Debbie
 
Oh I make sure I have all excess cables tied back. My CPU always ran about
44c. The 55c temps was during the stress test not in normal usage

Debbie
 
Based on the review by Frostytech you definitely
have a problem in that you CPU core temperature
is way too high. Read the entire article as it
has good photo, tips and one in particular about
4-pin vs 3-pin motherboard fan power connectors.

On page 4 of this review you will see that a more
normal temperature (under heavy load) is about 29
degrees C.

Zalman CNPS9500-series heatsink review
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2026

It's possible the heatsink was not properly mounted to
the CPU or proper pre-cleaning and then application of
thermal paste was not followed. This could lead to higher
then normal CPU readings.

That new fan you ordered could do the trick and lower
those temperature. 50C is about as high a I would want
to go and Prime95 does push your CPU, if you open Task
Manager prior to starting Prime95 you can see both cores
jump to 100% load.
 
I might have to take it back over to the computer shop. I hate it though
because I'll get charged another $49, they have to take the motherboard out
to do it. I bet they didn't clean the old stuff off too well. The one guy
there said I should be in the 30's with the temps, I have never been in the
30s with the temps. The new fan I'm getting is a case fan to replace the
one I have in the back.

Debbie
 
If you going to take it to the shop,
tell them "Before" you drop the PC off at their shop
that you want the processor and heatsink cleaned by
using Arcti Clean #1 and #2
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm

Then to use Arctic "Ceramique" as the thermal paste/compound.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm
If they never heard of Arctic brand then find another shop.

Do not settle for Arctic Silver, it's a good product but if they
are sloppy in applying it you may have worse problems.
"Ceramique" on the other hand is "neither electrically conductive nor
capacitive"
and a little too much on the heatsink is not a problem.

Applying too much Arctic Silver could be a problem. That plus
Ceramique's other benefits make it the best choice.
 
Thanks a bunch for the info. You know I really appreciate all the help you
are giving me. I can email my tech shop, and ask them about that. I bet
they must have done something wrong, because they said my temps should be
lower. I can't add anymore fans on this case........lol

Debbie
 
You're welcome.

Adding extra case fans will not help the CPU problem.
It may keep your hard drives and Video card a tad cooler.

Hey if they messed it up and it was work they performed
recently you should not have to pay them twice for what
should have been done correctly in the first place.

Word of warning, if they say the heatsink wasn't fully
seated/locked down/loose or words to that effect and all
they had to do was make a small adjustment, don't take
the PC back, make them set it run in the shop while you
are there and then run Prime95. I say this because if it
was not seated properly in the first place the thermal
compound may no longer be 100% effective.

Let me know how you made out after you get the
unit back and make certain they didn't undo all that
work you did to get the processor running at the
proper speed. Down clocking (running the processor
slower than it's rated speed) is one way to make it
look like the CPU temperature is cooler!
 
I got a reply from them, here's what he said

[your heatsink was properly installed as I did it and it was
done as it should be.

That temperature you said is in the normal operating range and will go up
under
a load as that is normal and still within the limits. Note: CPU's
don't burn up until the 80-85-90 mark so your's is well below this.

We can do whatever you want done but its really not worth the cost
to(in my professional opinion).]

I just started the PC up after being off most of the night, the temp is 40c,
MB 34c. I have a new power supply, 750 watt, now the fan for it is below
the unit right above the CPU, would that cause the higher temps? Could I
flip the unit upside down to have the fan facing the top of the case?

Debbie
 
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