Win XP & 98 cant see each other in network neighbourhood

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Yus

Quick question for anyone who can help.

Got a few XP PC's and a few 98 PC's on the same network, same static
IP scheme, same workgroup, and all the other basics.

Enabled Netbios over TCP on the XP machines but they still wont see
the 98 PC's. 98 PC's can see 98 PC's and XP can see XP but XP cant
see 98 or vice versa.

Everyone can ping everyone with no probs, short of installing Netbeui
on the XP machines I cant think of anything else but I dont want
Netbeui as I shouldnt need it.

I've never had a problem with 98 and XP PC's seeing each other. But
these are RM Machines!!!

Im sure its something very basic but I just cant think what??!!!

There is no firewall, or antivirus software and XP firewall is off.

Any ideas greatly ap.

Many thanx
yus
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Quick question for anyone who can help.

Got a few XP PC's and a few 98 PC's on the same network, same static
IP scheme, same workgroup, and all the other basics.

Enabled Netbios over TCP on the XP machines but they still wont see
the 98 PC's. 98 PC's can see 98 PC's and XP can see XP but XP cant
see 98 or vice versa.

Everyone can ping everyone with no probs, short of installing Netbeui
on the XP machines I cant think of anything else but I dont want
Netbeui as I shouldnt need it.

I've never had a problem with 98 and XP PC's seeing each other. But
these are RM Machines!!!

Im sure its something very basic but I just cant think what??!!!

There is no firewall, or antivirus software and XP firewall is off.

Any ideas greatly ap.

Many thanx
yus

Try accessing an XP computer from 98 using the XP computer's IP
address and its name. For example:

\\192.168.0.101
\\computer

If the first one succeeds and the second one fails, the problem is
NetBIOS name resolution. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled, not to Default, on the XP computers.

If that doesn't help, run "ipconfig /all" on the XP computers and look
at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says
"Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the
problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which
isn't available on a peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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pskelly

-----Original Message-----
Try accessing an XP computer from 98 using the XP computer's IP
address and its name. For example:

\\192.168.0.101
\\computer

If the first one succeeds and the second one fails, the problem is
NetBIOS name resolution. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled, not to Default, on the XP computers.

If that doesn't help, run "ipconfig /all" on the XP computers and look
at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says
"Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to- Point") that's the
problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which
isn't available on a peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
.
I was experiencing a similar problem. Config is WIN98SE
connected to a Linksys WRT54G wireless router. I have 1
XP desktop that could share internet and files/printers
with the 98SE desktop via a wireless connection. The
problem was my Sony laptop with XP could use the internet
via its wirless connection but could not share files and
printers with either desktop. Would get "permission"
errors for workgroup and or node. When I ran
ipconfig /all as noted above the node type was peer-to-
peer. I removed via regedit the DhcpNodeType and
rebooted. FINALLY was able to file/print share with other
nodes on the network. I do have a couple of additional
questions
1. When I run ipconfig /all now the node type is unknown.
Is this a problem?
2. When I view the details of my wireless connection it
says that encryption is enabled but encryption is
disabled. Not really a concern.
THANKS FOR THE INFO. I have read many, many postings for
similar issues and this was the one that did it for me.
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

"pskelly" said:
"Mixed".

I was experiencing a similar problem. Config is WIN98SE
connected to a Linksys WRT54G wireless router. I have 1
XP desktop that could share internet and files/printers
with the 98SE desktop via a wireless connection. The
problem was my Sony laptop with XP could use the internet
via its wirless connection but could not share files and
printers with either desktop. Would get "permission"
errors for workgroup and or node. When I ran
ipconfig /all as noted above the node type was peer-to-
peer. I removed via regedit the DhcpNodeType and
rebooted. FINALLY was able to file/print share with other
nodes on the network. I do have a couple of additional
questions
1. When I run ipconfig /all now the node type is unknown.
Is this a problem?
2. When I view the details of my wireless connection it
says that encryption is enabled but encryption is
disabled. Not really a concern.
THANKS FOR THE INFO. I have read many, many postings for
similar issues and this was the one that did it for me.

1. A node type of "Unknown" is fine. I see it frequently on XP
computers where networking is working properly.

2. I haven't seen that and don't know what could be causing it. I
strongly recommend enabling encryption to keep hackers from getting
into your wireless network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 

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