Will the OS-X from Apple that ported to Intel CPUs and boards runon AMD-64?

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I think OS-X would be great. It's like a Linux version that works. ...
Do you mind if I post it in the Mandrake Linux group, I'll give you
full credit as the author, of course. ;-)
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A lot of Linux folks are switching to OS-X. It's still Unix based,
but it doesn't require a lot of fiddling to make things work. The
word I heard, anywho.
 
A lot of Linux folks are switching to OS-X. It's still Unix based,
but it doesn't require a lot of fiddling to make things work. The
word I heard, anywho.
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I might try it myself later but I have already downloaded and planned
to give this distro a whirl in the next little while. It's based on
Debian.
http://www.kubuntu.org/
 
Al said:
I think OS-X would be great. It's like a Linux version that works. I'd
buy it in a second if it would run on a PC and recognize all my
hardware. I know the word is that Jobs isn't considering doing that. :-(
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It's like Linux, except it is BSD.
 
It's like Linux, except it is BSD.
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Yea, when I was using OSX in the store it felt just like I was using
the KDE GUI pretty much. To be honest with you I like the XP GUI
better. Not saying the OS is better but the feel and look I like
better. I've tried a few Linux GUI's but I still like the XP one best.

FreeBSD=version of unix
Linux=clone of unix
 
1- Apple hasn't ported anything *YET*
2- Apple system will require proprietary Apple firmware NastyMonopoly chip (the
one that keeps it a hardware co. and about doubles the price of every mac in
terms of bang for buck)
3- I *SINCERELY* doubt the Apple CPU will be a Pentium-class machine My
*personal* choice amongst existing Intel properties is for a revamped Alpha RISC
(the originally-DEC chip Intel obtained from HPaq and then killed) or Itanium
Cheap.

4) The only feature it will share will be PCI and possibly PCI-EX bus
structures.

TrAl
 
AT said:
1- Apple hasn't ported anything *YET*
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They already have their software running on Intel x86 hardware.
2- Apple system will require proprietary Apple firmware NastyMonopoly chip (the
one that keeps it a hardware co. and about doubles the price of every mac in
terms of bang for buck)
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Probably, or some other hardware-based method for locking people into
Apple-manufactured hardware will be found. I can't imagine Steve Jobs
licensing the OS to anyone, since hardware is the cash cow.
3- I *SINCERELY* doubt the Apple CPU will be a Pentium-class machine My
*personal* choice amongst existing Intel properties is for a revamped Alpha RISC
(the originally-DEC chip Intel obtained from HPaq and then killed) or Itanium
Cheap.
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I don't see any reason for Apple to get stuck with yet another highly
proprietary hardware architecture. At least if it goes with Intel it
will be using the same platform as Microsoft, which gives it a bit more
stability and equality with respect to the chip vendor.

Ideally the Mac would run on hardware identical to that of Windows,
except for a few key hardware differences that would make it impossible
to get the OS to execute on hardware not built or licensed by Apple.
This would allow the advantages of 99.9% common hardware, along with the
advantages of having a user base locked into a proprietary and
overpriced hardware platform.
 
Apple is going to switch over to Intel processers in a year or so.
They already modified their OS to run on Intel P4 CPUs. From what
I've read on the Net, this modified Intel version of OS-X has no
restrictions at all -- it runs on ordinary PC hardware. Does
anybody know if this OS-X modification will run on AMD-64 CPUs?
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This is how it is:

OS-X will run on Intel or AMD CPUs.
....- In an Apple computer!

(since Apple will only buy Intel CPUs for now, and since AMD cannot
afford to sell Apple CPUs, it will only run on Intel CPUs in practice.
Apple have however "played the AMD card in full", and they probably
intend to continue to do so, so I doubt they will code themselves
'off' AMD, provided such a thing can even be done.)

It will _NOT_ run on a PC.

The reason is obvious. Apple have no resources at all to support all
PC hardware the way that Microsoft can. Apple can only keep their
quality by concentrating on their own hardware.
Besides, Apple is a computer manufacturer. They are in the business to
sell computers. I see no reason why the platform for OS-X will not
continue to be proprietary hardware.

Who knows what the future will bring. But competing with Microsoft and
Linux now, as an OS provider for the PC, should be beyond Apple.
 
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