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[Guest]

Why is it everytime windows comes out with a new operating system the
consumer has to go through about a year worth of trouble and heartache before
the operating system is even close to running? Especially gamers.

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[f/fgeorge]

Why is it everytime windows comes out with a new operating system the
consumer has to go through about a year worth of trouble and heartache before
the operating system is even close to running? Especially gamers.

Because you like to be on the cutting edge, those of us that are still
waiting to move our primary pc's to Vista are 'learning' on
non-critical machines, and enjoying the ride.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Because...

- An operating system with millions of lines of code written under time
restriction in order to meet corporate and marketing expectations is bound
to have unresolved bugs, this is actually an accepted practice in many
industries
- An operating system designed to run thousands of pieces of different
hardware in millions (perhaps billions) of different configurations is bound
to run into some unanticipated conflicts, despite rigrous testing. Sometimes
too, end users employ non-specification configurations that only compound
the issue.
- Hardware vendors see no profit in writing and distributing new drivers to
support old peripherals, preferring instead to force consumers to purchase
new aftermarket addons.
- Software vendors see no profit in patching or updating old programs,
relying instead on the OS vendor to make everything backwards compatible
(something that is not alwys feasible due to conflicts or security concerns)
- Software vendors loathe having to change the way they write programs to
meet new design parameters
- Some people exist to find flaws

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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[Lord Takyon]

Why is it everytime windows comes out with a new operating system the
consumer has to go through about a year worth of trouble and heartache
before
the operating system is even close to running? Especially gamers.

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No-one forces you to use it. You don't *have* to do anything.

 

[AJR]

tom jonesthethird - Regarding "...consumer has to go through about a year
worth of trouble and heartache before the operating system is even close to
running?..." Note at "microsoft.public.windowsxp.general" the number of
posts equals or exceeds the number of daily posts for Vista.

My personal observation: It does not take the OS time (one year?) to get
"close to running", but time (one year?) for the "operator" between the
chair and keyboard to get "close to knowing the OS".

 

[Kurt Herman]

You've hit the nail on the head, Rick. Good post!

Kurt

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Some have less trouble than others.not everyone has trouble.
No one is forced to upgrade anything including operating systems.
Before upgrading, it is a good idea to research to see if the new
product will meet your needs.
That includes but is not limited to ensuring all essential hardware
and software is compatible with the new operating system.

Gamers typically have a harder time with the upgrade since their
demands are usually higher than typical users.
Gamers rely more heavily on 3rd party support such as video and other
drivers.

By itself, a new operating system available has never been a good
reason to upgrade.
Since Windows XP will probably be supported for several more years,
many should stay with it as long as it does the job.

This applies to all types of products, not just computers and
operating systems.

 

[Kevin Young]

Right on Rick, you explained things well.

Because...

- An operating system with millions of lines of code written under time
restriction in order to meet corporate and marketing expectations is bound
to have unresolved bugs, this is actually an accepted practice in many
industries
- An operating system designed to run thousands of pieces of different
hardware in millions (perhaps billions) of different configurations is
bound to run into some unanticipated conflicts, despite rigrous testing.
Sometimes too, end users employ non-specification configurations that only
compound the issue.
- Hardware vendors see no profit in writing and distributing new drivers
to support old peripherals, preferring instead to force consumers to
purchase new aftermarket addons.
- Software vendors see no profit in patching or updating old programs,
relying instead on the OS vendor to make everything backwards compatible
(something that is not alwys feasible due to conflicts or security
concerns)
- Software vendors loathe having to change the way they write programs to
meet new design parameters
- Some people exist to find flaws

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Why is it everytime windows comes out with a new operating system the
consumer has to go through about a year worth of trouble and heartache before
the operating system is even close to running? Especially gamers.

Perhaps a more appropriate question would be: "Why do so many end users
rush out to obtain and install the 'newest and shiniest' operating
system without first taking a few minutes to determine if the
manufacturers of their chosen hardware components have provided the
appropriate drivers for the devices they sell, or if their preferred
applications and games are compatible with the new OS?"


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[Guest]

Perhaps a more appropriate question would be: "Why do so many end
users rush out to obtain and install the 'newest and shiniest' operating
system without first taking a few minutes to determine if the
manufacturers of their chosen hardware components have provided the
appropriate drivers for the devices they sell, or if their preferred
applications and games are compatible with the new OS?"

Its the new and shiny one. sucks like hell but no worries mates. No sugar

 

[Frederick C. Wilt]

Some have less trouble than others.not everyone has trouble.
No one is forced to upgrade anything including operating systems.

No but try buying a new machine without Vista, it can be done but sometimes
your choices are limited.

Regards

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

For the major OEMs, Dell sells some models with Linux.

Most local shops will sell computers to your specifications with no
operating system or an operating system of choice.
For those that want the choice, the choices are easy to find.

As for limited, limited only by the number of operating systems
available.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org

 

[Guest]

Here's the rub from us gamers perspective , the thing is is you can ONLY get
DX10 with Vista and what use is that to anyone thats not a gamer??
Yet XP will not be able to support DX10 , and then you say that gamers are
NOT being forced to upgrade , and we have to say....what a bunch of crap!
What the hell good is DX10'less XP in another year if your a cutting edge
gamer anyways?


I have an idea , How about if the guy with all the cash makes the $300.00
"and ONLY way to get DX10....that he is not forcing us to buy" operating
system work better with more hardware FASTER!! (Yes even NEW DX10 hardware) I
mean with everything else in vista working almost flawlessly THIS should be
top proiority.

And don't get me wrong here , Vista runs great for the most part is VERY
stable , but because of BS DM crap (audiodg.exe??) and a weird DX9/memory
thing DX9 games suffer needlessly , this doesn't seem like a HUGE mountian to
climb for someone who has already written ZILLIONS of lines of code into an
otherwise VERY nice operating system.


I'm just say'n.....