Why does my ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crash?

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criminal

When I play doom3 or quake 4, my computer crashes.

Why does this ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crashes?

The motherboard is an Asus P5P800

Cpu- Intel P IV 630 Ghz 800 2 MB

Ram: 1 Gb

Any sugestion?

Thanks.

Criminal.
 
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Smart Feet

criminal said:
When I play doom3 or quake 4, my computer crashes.

Why does this ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crashes?

The motherboard is an Asus P5P800

Cpu- Intel P IV 630 Ghz 800 2 MB

Ram: 1 Gb

Any sugestion?

Thanks.

Criminal.

Video card might be getting too hot. Play with your PC case open and
see if it still happens...
 
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J

criminal said:
When I play doom3 or quake 4, my computer crashes.

Why does this ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crashes?

The motherboard is an Asus P5P800

Cpu- Intel P IV 630 Ghz 800 2 MB

I dunno maybe your *630 GHz* overclock might cause a few problems?



;)
 
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Michael W. Ryder

criminal said:
When I play doom3 or quake 4, my computer crashes.

Why does this ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crashes?

The motherboard is an Asus P5P800

Cpu- Intel P IV 630 Ghz 800 2 MB

Ram: 1 Gb

Any sugestion?

Thanks.

Criminal.
What are the temperatures for the case, CPU, and video card when you are
having these problems? I have a P5P800 motherboard and know that the
placement of the CPU causes problems with some cases. In my original
case the CPU was idling at around 60C. A new case with more room
between the CPU and power supply dropped the idle temperatures 20C.
 
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criminal

At this moment:

Motherboard: 40
2 Hard disk: 53 and 50
CPU: 48
Cooling fan: 4.5
Voltage CPU: 1.6
(data collected from Everest Ultimate Edition)
Computer's room: 25

If the temperature is the problem, I will install a new cooling fan. But I
prefer to look for another solution because the noise of the PC already
enough is elevated by the nights.
AGP is at 8x. It would solve to something lowering at smaller AGP speed?
 
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Michael W. Ryder

criminal said:
At this moment:

Motherboard: 40
2 Hard disk: 53 and 50
CPU: 48
Cooling fan: 4.5
Voltage CPU: 1.6
(data collected from Everest Ultimate Edition)
Computer's room: 25

If the temperature is the problem, I will install a new cooling fan. But I
prefer to look for another solution because the noise of the PC already
enough is elevated by the nights.
AGP is at 8x. It would solve to something lowering at smaller AGP speed?
Your temperatures for the CPU and hard drives seems a bit high. You
might have an airflow problem. How far is the CPU from the power
supply? In my first case there was less than a half inch of clearance
between them and I could feel the heat in the power supply through the
side of the case. My new case has a couple of inches of clearance and
my overheating problems went away.
You could also use a program like Speedfan (MBM does not work correctly
with this board) to monitor your voltages while gaming to see if maybe
the power supply can't handle the increased load.
 
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Kent_Diego

Why does this ati radeon 9600 xt 256Mb crashes?
Useally bad RAM or cheap power supply is cause. Try changing BIOS settings
for memory timing and also run Memtest86. Try swapping RAM and PS to see if
helps. My experience with video card caused crashes is the computer will
lock-up solid. You can try under clocking GPU with ATI Tool to see if fixes
problem. Move your PCI cards to different slots as on PCI slot will share
IRQ with AGP. Look at the forums at http://rage3d.com for more ideas.
 
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nathantw

Are you kidding? CPU and motherboard too hot at 40c and 48c? Give me a
frickin' break. The equipment is made to work at those tempertures.
Look at the operating tempertures of the CPU and motherboard in the
owner manuals. My Pentium 4 shuts down at 60C and I'm normally running
both my CPU and motherboard at 52c - 53c. No problems whatsoever.
 
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Michael W. Ryder

nathantw said:
Are you kidding? CPU and motherboard too hot at 40c and 48c? Give me a
frickin' break. The equipment is made to work at those tempertures.
Look at the operating tempertures of the CPU and motherboard in the
owner manuals. My Pentium 4 shuts down at 60C and I'm normally running
both my CPU and motherboard at 52c - 53c. No problems whatsoever.

If he is idling at 48 then there Is an airflow problem. My idle
temperature right now with a 3.4 Prescott is around 38, 10 degrees less.
Full load jumps the temperature to around 60. If his CPU is also
jumping 10 - 12 degrees under full load then that puts the temperature
at around 70 when the CPU will start throttling, etc. Plus all that
extra heat may be affecting the output from the power supply.
 
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Sleepy

If he is idling at 48 then there Is an airflow problem. My idle
temperature right now with a 3.4 Prescott is around 38, 10 degrees less.
Full load jumps the temperature to around 60. If his CPU is also jumping
10 - 12 degrees under full load then that puts the temperature at around
70 when the CPU will start throttling, etc. Plus all that extra heat may
be affecting the output from the power supply.

Your P4 goes from 38c idle to around 60c under load ? Thats a helluva big
jump mate - my Athlon goes up 5 or 6 degrees and I think thats the norm for
most people.
 
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Sleepy

nathantw said:
Are you kidding? CPU and motherboard too hot at 40c and 48c? Give me a
frickin' break. The equipment is made to work at those tempertures.
Look at the operating tempertures of the CPU and motherboard in the
owner manuals. My Pentium 4 shuts down at 60C and I'm normally running
both my CPU and motherboard at 52c - 53c. No problems whatsoever.

With proper airflow in your case the motherboard temp should always be at
least 10c below the CPU. If your motherboard temp is that high then theres a
good chance the graphics card will overheat. I suspect your temperature
monitoring program isnt set up properly.
 
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Michael W. Ryder

Sleepy said:
With proper airflow in your case the motherboard temp should always be at
least 10c below the CPU. If your motherboard temp is that high then theres a
good chance the graphics card will overheat. I suspect your temperature
monitoring program isnt set up properly.
My motherboard temperature is about 6C below my CPU at idle, but I agree
that 50C is too high for the motherboard.
 
C

criminal

I have returned to watch the temperature of the CPU when game with quake4
and have been able to verify that one rises until the 65. After this the
system shut down.
the problem is the temperature. Now I know it clearly. I have seen that my
motherboard allows to choose how much heat is necesary to shut down.
What do you think about the top temperature for a Pentium 4 630 (3.00 GHz),
1 Mb Ram, Motherboard Asus P5P800 ?
 
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Michael W. Ryder

criminal said:
I have returned to watch the temperature of the CPU when game with quake4
and have been able to verify that one rises until the 65. After this the
system shut down.
the problem is the temperature. Now I know it clearly. I have seen that my
motherboard allows to choose how much heat is necesary to shut down.
What do you think about the top temperature for a Pentium 4 630 (3.00 GHz),
1 Mb Ram, Motherboard Asus P5P800 ?
I am using the P5P800 motherboard with a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 and my idle
temperatures are under 40C, with full load reaching 60C. You should be
able to match these temperatures. When I first built the system I had
similar problems to you and feeling the side of the case could feel how
warm it was. The clearance between the heatsink and the power supply
was about 1/2" so the air flow was totally disturbed. The case worked
fine with my previous setup, but that had the CPU in the center of the
board instead of at the top. A new case with a couple of inches
clearance solved the air flow problem and the temperatures dropped to
what I consider reasonable.
 
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Danny Greaves

Sleepy said:
Your P4 goes from 38c idle to around 60c under load ? Thats a helluva big
jump mate - my Athlon goes up 5 or 6 degrees and I think thats the norm for
most people.


Wow! I wonder whats the life span at 70c (158f) of a chip, Or even
60c (140f) when compaired to say 38c (100f) ?
 

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