Why do I need 25 minutes to read content of a 4.5 GB DVD+RW ?

E

Eugen Austermann

I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with 10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen
 
S

smlunatick

I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

You need to give us more details on how your PC is configured. One
posible cause is that the hard drive and DVD drive are both connected
onto the same IDE cable. This typ of set up is always the 'slowest!'
IDE cable (aka channels) always can only do one type of operations.
The IDE channels must stop all reads before it starts a write.
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Eugen Austermann said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with
10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this
DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

You need to be a little more specific. What exactly do you mean
with "10 big files"? 10 MBytes each? 100 MBytes? 400 MBytes?
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Eugen Austermann said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with
10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this
DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

You need to be a little more specific. What exactly do you mean
with "10 big files"? 10 MBytes each? 100 MBytes? 400 MBytes?
 
P

Paul

Eugen said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with 10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

Two possibilities:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riplock

2) IDE ribbon cable interface is running in PIO mode, instead of DMA mode.
For best performance, use an IDE cable with 80 wires. Some computers
have ribbon cables with slightly thicker wires (40 wire cable) and
the ribbon cable with the thinner wires (80 wire cable) has best
signal integrity performance. Try an 80 wire cable.

See the workaround section here, for the "CRC error problem". If
a few CRC errors are seen by Windows, Windows can drop the interface
transfer rate, which is how it gets into PIO mode.

(See "Workaround" near middle of page)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472

It isn't likely to be Riplock, but there could be situations where
you might run into that problem.

Paul
 
B

Bob I

Eugen said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with 10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

The specs I saw were only 16x IF you had a Single sided DVD-ROM disc,
every other DVD format slower. But as to your problem, go into Device
Manager, IDE Controllers and make sure the channel is running DMA not
PIO. Set it to DMA or if it's fallen back, uninstal the channel, and
then Scan for hardware to put it back.
 
B

Bob Harris

copying from DVD to the internal hard drive is usually limited by the DVD
reader's speed.

But, 16X is plenty fast, so as you anticipated it should yield better
performance.

Potential problems/solutions include:

1. Antivirus with scan-on-access. If you trust the files are not infected,
temporarily turn this feature off.

2. Other disk and/or CPU intensive programs. These can be anything that
moves a lot of data around, including playing movies, editting pictures,
editting videos, WORD (if document is very large), continuous anti-virus
scanning or adware scanning. Use the XP task manager (via single
CTRL-ALT-DEL) to see which process(es) are using a lot of CPU. Turn off
such programs when copying files.

3. In theory, a badly fragmented and nearly full hard drive could lead to
such problems. But, in practice that is not likely. Still, check free
space and fragmentation. Running CHKDSK C: to see if there are any errors
in the file system is also a good idea. If error found, run CHKDSK C: /R
and reboot.

4. Internal hard drive is not working at its rated capacity. For example,
if an ATA/100 drive is connected to an ATA/33 controller, it will run at
ATA/33 speed. Or, if the data transfer mode is "PIO" instead of "DMA", then
it will run even slower. On a related note, I have heard that one should
never connect an optical reader/writer to the same IDE cable as the primary
internal hard dirve, since the optical device may degrade the performance of
the hard drive.

To eliminate the hard drive and its settings as the source of the problem,
try copying one large from the hard drive to itself or to an external USB
2.0 hard drive. DVD to hard drive should be only slightly slower per Gig
for large files.

5. The CPU is very slow. Any pentium 4 or equivalent should be far faster
than any DVD reader. But, a much older CPU may not be. Ditto for
motherboard's buss.

6. Insufficient RAM. XP loves RAM. And, while it will run with as little
as 128 Meg, it will not run well. If under 512 Meg, check the task manager
to see whether copying from DVD invokes the use of a lot of swap file
(pagefile usage). If it does, then adding RAM will probably help.

7. Other users logged-in. Even XP home edition can support multiple users
IDs. If more than one is logged in, each will be given some portion of the
resources. And, if one has a large background task running, it may reduce
performance for all users. With sufficient RAM and CPU this should not be a
problem. But, on a weaker machine, it could be trouble.

8. Reboot, and try copying when XP is "fresh". I have noticed that XP will
eventually slow down, if it is run continuously for days. But, if it is
used "hard", performance might drop off after only several hours of
intensive usage.
 
J

Jim

Eugen Austermann said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format with
10 (big)
files on it. When I want to copy the content inside WInExplorer from this
DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen
I believe that the statement about speed reads "up to 16x". In any case,
you need
a disk that can be accessed at 16x in addition to a fast drive.

Sorry, I can't answer your question as to why it takes so long. Is the
drive stuck in
PIO mode?

Jim
 
M

MAP

Eugen said:
I inserted a 4.5 (simple, single-layer) DVD+RW burned with ISO format
with 10 (big) files on it. When I want to copy the content inside
WInExplorer from this DVD
to a local folder it takes approx 25 minutes.

Can this be true ?

How can I speed-up the reading ? Is there a parameter which I can
modify?

The DVD drive is a LG GSA4163B which is officially able to read 16x

Eugen

Is the drive in PIO mode?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pio+mode
 

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