Which Printer Is Pick Of The Crop "The Best" In Your Opinion My"Shortlist"

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Which Printer Is Pick Of The Crop "The Best" In Your Opinion My" Shortlist"



I have compiled a Shortlist of Printers I am looking for a Printer that
does Not have Problems with Chipping or that readily accepts a Chip
Resetter,No Software Problems

Low running costs in black & white printing and produces good quality
inkjet pictures from the Internet?

Am I expecting too much there are so many conflicting viewpoints when it
comes to buying an InkJet Printer

Are Continous Reinking Systems worth the money?


Thanks Heidy


(1) Canon Pixma IP 4200

(2) Canon Pixma IP6700D

(3) Epson Stylus Photo R380

(4) Canon Pixma IP8500

(5) Canon Pixma iP 90

(6) Canon Pixma IP 4200

(7) Canon Pixma IP 5200

(8) Canon Pixma IP 5200R

(9) Canon Pixma IP 6600D

(10) Canon Pixma IP 6700D

(11) Dell 3010CN Color Laser Printer

(12) Canon Pixma MP 600

(13) Epson C88

(14) What about HP inkjet Printers
 
Heidy said:
Which Printer Is Pick Of The Crop "The Best" In Your Opinion My"
Shortlist"



I have compiled a Shortlist of Printers I am looking for a Printer
that does Not have Problems with Chipping or that readily accepts a
Chip Resetter,No Software Problems

That is poor criteria. Good criteria is Best photo results. Duplex
Printing. Best paper handling. Speed
Low running costs in black & white printing and produces good quality
inkjet pictures from the Internet?

Am I expecting too much there are so many conflicting viewpoints when
it comes to buying an InkJet Printer

Are Continous Reinking Systems worth the money?


Thanks Heidy


(1) Canon Pixma IP 4200

This is discontinued. The current model is the Canon IP4300. It uses
the same ink but is much faster. The best choice for a standard format
dye based printer. The best choice for a wide format dye based printer
is the Canin Pro 9000.
(2) Canon Pixma IP6700D

Not a really great choice. Not quite as good and the IP4300 in most
cases and slower. The video screen is a gimmick for serious photogs.
(3) Epson Stylus Photo R380

Not a great choice for a pigmented printnter since the wide format R1800
is a few bucks more. Is not a vivid on glossy, matte or pearl papers
but may have better longevity. Does a better job on some fine art
papers and lasts longer than dye based ink.
(4) Canon Pixma IP8500

A great discontinued printer. Better to get a wide format Pro 9000
(5) Canon Pixma iP 90

(6) Canon Pixma IP 4200
Discontinued

(7) Canon Pixma IP 5200

Discontinued and the ink is not quite as long lasting as the IP42/4300
(8) Canon Pixma IP 5200R

All of the ones below cannot compare to the Canon IP4300 and the Canon
Pro9000. Also look at the Canon Pro 95000 pigment based printer due out
this summer or somewhat before.
 
measekite said:
That is poor criteria. Good criteria is Best photo results. Duplex
Printing. Best paper handling. Speed

This is discontinued. The current model is the Canon IP4300. It uses
the same ink but is much faster. The best choice for a standard format
dye based printer. The best choice for a wide format dye based printer
is the Canin Pro 9000.

What do you mean by wide format dye based printer?>
Not a really great choice. Not quite as good and the IP4300 in most
cases and slower. The video screen is a gimmick for serious photogs.

Not a great choice for a pigmented printnter since the wide format R1800
is a few bucks more. Is not a vivid on glossy, matte or pearl papers
but may have better longevity. Does a better job on some fine art
papers and lasts longer than dye based ink.

A great discontinued printer. Better to get a wide format Pro 9000

Discontinued and the ink is not quite as long lasting as the IP42/4300

All of the ones below cannot compare to the Canon IP4300 and the Canon
Pro9000. Also look at the Canon Pro 95000 pigment based printer due out
this summer or somewhat before.

You are saying wait and pay Big Bucks For the Origin Brand Cartridges
did I understand you right?I been doing some more research amongst Compatible Cartridge Sellers

Here is some more of what they are suggesting
(15) Epson Stylus D78

(16) Epson Stylus DX 4000

(17) Epson Stylus DX 6000

(18) Epson DX 4000

(19) Epson DX 5000

(20) Epson 6000

(21)Epson 7000

(22) Epson Stylus Photo RX 560


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Heidy said:
What do you mean by wide format dye based printer?>

You are saying wait and pay Big Bucks For the Origin Brand Cartridges
did I understand you right?


That's his one track record. Just the fact that you mentioned
compatibles will have him spinning in someone else's grave.
 
Heidy said:
What do you mean by wide format dye based printer?>

It prints photos that can have a size ofr 13 inches wide by 19 inches
high and uses ink that has a dye base as opposed to pigment based.
You are saying wait and pay Big Bucks For the Origin Brand Cartridges
did I understand you right?

ABSOLUTELY: Here is what you get.

Lower Risk of a printhead clog
Consistent Results
Higher Quality Results
Less Risk of Fading
I been doing some more research amongst Compatible Cartridge Sellers

They want to sell you their crap so they can make money. These are very
bad choices. You get what you pay for. Notice they are all Epsons.
Epson printer usually have poorer mileage on ink. In any even they did
not list the R380 which is much better than any of these.
 
Paul said:
That's his one track record. Just the fact that you mentioned
compatibles will have him spinning in someone else's grave.

It is very obvious that you do not have any advice at all.
 
Paul Heslop said:
(snip)



That's his one track record. Just the fact that you mentioned
compatibles will have him spinning in someone else's grave.

Heidy - What Paul is very kindly saying is that Measekite, with one ip4000
inkjet to his name, has, for the last three years that I've been
participating on this newsgroup taken it upon himself to be the sworn enemy
of any and all users, vendors, and positive posters regarding aftermarket
cartridges and inks. He has no experience with these materials and has
hijacked this newsgroup over this one issue. Nearly all the dubious advice
he has offered you has been from his reading of other peoples' reviews and
not his own experience.

You asked, in your original post, about printing pictures from the internet.
Most of these images are from reduced size files - they have been reduced to
speed up transmission, and they do not have to be large files with lots of
included detail as the resolution of the monitors is limited. In other
words, since there is a finite limit as to how much resolution a monitor can
show, there is no need for the large image files you would use for excellent
quality prints. You don't need an exotic printer for that kind of use.

Your list of printers from which to choose is far too extensive. You need
to focus on your needs. If you want a printer that can print up to 8.5xll,
you don't need to include wide format printers. If your printing needs are
simple - a few letters, web page printouts, and photos, a good general
purpose inkjet will do. Measekite is correct that the ip4300 would be a
good printer for general use and very decent photo printing. It does,
however, use the new chipped Canon cartridges for which there are no
easy-to-use compatable carts available. (you can expect his immediate
negative response to this statement due to his fanatical aversion to all
aftermarket products). These carts can be refilled successfully, but you
then have to check the ink levels as Canon disables their ink monitor when
you refill the carts. You may also lose your warranty.

Someone had responded to you with a suggestion to find a new ip6000 online.
This six color cart photo printer is very good, is from the previous
generation of Canons, and it does use the bci-6 carts that are widely
available aftermarket. The quality of some of these aftermarket carts is
very poor, however, and you must get the advice of someone who has good
experience with a specific brand and vendor. For best reliability and
uniform ink quality, however, you are best off to refill carts with good
quality aftermarket bulk inks from one of the vendors that have been
suggested by actual users on this NG. (again, MK will follow this post with
his usual biased diatribe). I use Canon i960 and Canon ip5000 printers and
refill my carts with MIS inks. This combination of printers and inks
produces prints that are every bit as beautiful as with OEM Canon inks, and
the prints have been very stable so far for the three years I've used these
printers.

There are reasonably priced good Epson printers that have a ready supply of
aftermarket carts, good refill inks, and chip resetters. There are
participants on this NG who use them and can give you advice. I don't
remember her name, but one person who participates on this NG has reported
using several Epsons with aftermarket inks in a school. Hopefully, she will
see this thread and respond to you. From what I recall, she uses pigment-ink
based printers, but she has substituted dye-based inks and this has cured
the clogging problems.

I don't know anything about HP inkjet printers. I do know that many of them
use carts with the printhead built in. From what I've read, patents prevent
the manufacture of aftermarket carts, so the prefilled aftermarket carts you
can buy are actually original HP carts that have been refilled. For home
refilling, many HP carts can be successfully refilled, but they do have
chips in them that signal to the printer that they have been enmptied. Once
refilled, you have to play some tricks on the printer to recognize them.

Measekite, our very own persistant, biased, misinforming troll, has given
you all the second hand advice of which he is capable. Don't waste your
time responding to him. Most of us have him killfiled and only see his
posts when included in a response such as yours.
 
Burt said:
Heidy - What Paul is very kindly saying is that Measekite, with one ip4000
inkjet to his name, has, for the last three years that I've been
participating on this newsgroup taken it upon himself to be the sworn enemy
of any and all users, vendors, and positive posters regarding aftermarket
cartridges and inks. He has no experience with these materials and has
hijacked this newsgroup over this one issue. Nearly all the dubious advice
he has offered you has been from his reading of other peoples' reviews and
not his own experience.
Yes, that's what I said :O)
 
That is an incorrect statement. This poster belongs to a group that
promotes generic ink that is not up to par. I stand by what I said. I
have been recommending PC equipment for over 4000 customers. I do not
do that currently and have nothing to gain or loose if you buy one or
the other. I just do not like seeing people get taken by others who may
have something to gain. Many in this ng are in the business.
I have read about one horror story after another over a long period of
time in this ng. I have also read professional reviews on the subject
from PC Word, PC Magazine and Wilhelm Lab ( an expert on ink and
paper). He runs scientific tests. You should visit all of these site
and not listen to any poster here including me and especially THEM.
 
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