What max file size for web page these days ??

[Mel]

What is the max file size these days for a web page with lots of
graphic images?

We are publishing pages with lots of images.

Right now our typical file size is 130k to 200k.

But that takes a long time for dial up clients.

What are you guys doing?

Thanks for any help.

Mel

 

[David Berry]

Break it into multiple pages with a few images each

 

[Mel]

We are doing that already but want to minimize the number of parts.

What is the standard these days for max file size?

thanks

 

[David Berry]

There is no "standard". You design your site to load as fast as possible
for your target audience.

 

[Mike Mueller]

: We are doing that already but want to minimize the number
of parts.
: What is the standard these days for max file size?
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There is no standard for max file size.

What you need to do is make your own standard and base it on
how long it takes for the page to load for the intended
audience and their connection. What is fine for most of what
I do would be completely unacceptable for a dial-up
customer; but, my intended audience is all connected via a
LAN to the server.

Besides reducing the quantity of images per page, you may
want to reduce the size and/or quality of the images on the
page, and link them to a high quality version.

 

[Mark Fitzpatrick]

Keep in mind, some of the latest reports I've seen indicate that the US is
number 20 for broadband penetration in the world. Sure there are lots of
houses that have it, but there are still a lot that have dialup.

The rule of thumb is no more than 12 to 16 seconds to view a page. Anything
less and people just move on. To figure out how many seconds your page takes
to load on a dialup connection, determine the size of the HTML file and all
the images and other objects that will be embedded within it, then divide by
5. That should give you a good idea of the number of seconds it will take to
download.

You may want to see if some of the images you use throughout your pages
could be optimized. For example: instead of having JPGs set at a 95%, drop
it down to about 85%, the 10% difference in compression isn't very
noticeable in most images for quality but will make the file size
appreciably smaller. Also check to see if you can gain a benefit by
converting some JPGs to GIFs as some images will only use a limited color
pallete and you can tell the file to use anywhere from 1 to 256 colors. The
smaller the GIF pallete the smaller the filesize. Sometimes changing a JPG
to a GIF (or a GIF to a JPG) will result in a smaller file without loss of
quality and clarity.

 

[Mel]

Unfortunately we can not "customize" the document by working on
individual images, text or whatever.

All we can do is "cut it up" into logical sections and post it on the
web.

It is 11x17 and there are 6 sections per side... each one 3.66 inches
wide by 8.5 inches tall.

To cut it up into smaller peices would be difficult and in many cases
wouldn't work.

Each 'section' must be the same size so we can cut out random peices.

Each section has lots of graphics and lots of small text.

It is done in a vector graphics program like Adobie Illustrator.

We export each section as a jpg image with 24 colors and 150 dpi and
75% compression. If we reduce the dpi or increase compression it looks
bad on the net... not clean.

Tried to convert to 8 bit color and exporting as a gif but the file
ended up a little larger than the jpg... if we did it right.

We would really appriceate some tips on this if anyone has any ideas.

It has to be easy and fast as this will have to be redone every few
days.

thanks,

Mel

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You do realize that by having the document as a image, that the content is not searchable by search
engines, right?

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[Mike Mueller]

High Quality = big file = long download time, and
unfortunately they are proportional. Have you though about
zipping the HQ product and offering it as a download, linked
to a thubnail of the original?



: Unfortunately we can not "customize" the document by
working on
: individual images, text or whatever.
:
: All we can do is "cut it up" into logical sections and
post it on the
: web.
:
: It is 11x17 and there are 6 sections per side... each one
3.66 inches
: wide by 8.5 inches tall.
:
: To cut it up into smaller peices would be difficult and in
many cases
: wouldn't work.
:
: Each 'section' must be the same size so we can cut out
random peices.
:
: Each section has lots of graphics and lots of small text.
:
: It is done in a vector graphics program like Adobie
Illustrator.
:
: We export each section as a jpg image with 24 colors and
150 dpi and
: 75% compression. If we reduce the dpi or increase
compression it looks
: bad on the net... not clean.
:
: Tried to convert to 8 bit color and exporting as a gif but
the file
: ended up a little larger than the jpg... if we did it
right.
:
: We would really appriceate some tips on this if anyone has
any ideas.
:
: It has to be easy and fast as this will have to be redone
every few
: days.
:
: thanks,
:
: Mel
:

 

[Andrew Murray]

Slicing the image up won't necessarily make the page load any quicker.

Instead of one big image of 200k you'll have 40 little images of (for
example) 5k.....and may still end up with around the same (or longer) load
time.

 

[Tom Miller]

What is the max file size these days for a web page with lots of

graphic images?

It all depends on your audience. If you don't wish to cater to dialup users
then the page can be pretty large.

We are publishing pages with lots of images.

Right now our typical file size is 130k to 200k.

But that takes a long time for dial up clients.

What are you guys doing?

If you wish to cater to your slowest connection(s) your going to have to
lose a lot of the page size. One way to lose size is to see what is common
to all your pages. Turn that into a "background" file that you then
re-sample to the smallest possible size. Then it gets downloaded once and
accessed from all your pages. If you have a very simple/plain background
graphic (one color?) then use the html color codes and/or css to define it.
Its faster.

Other responders have offered other methods.

Based on your latest message my guess is you need to completly
re-think/re-design what your trying to do.