what is safe way create exact copy of an entire disc?

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TANDEX

what is safe way create error-free copy of an entire disc(software program,
autorun): copy it directly from CD to CDROM - "Copy Entire Disc" in Nero, or
first save CD image on hardrive, then write it into CD? I use Nero
Eexpress. Is the direct copying "Copy Entire Disc" reliable enough way?
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

A direct feed is fine (CD to CD) provided the read drive supports an
extraction rate that is fast enough for the burner (this is not the same as
the read rate). In those cases, just slow down the burn rate. In any case,
the extracted data is placed in a buffer during the burn process, and most
burning software now is "smart" and will not burn ahead of the buffer (which
is what causes your destination disk to be turned into a coaster or
mini-frisbee). There is no compelling reason to have to image the disk to
the hard drive first.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Yves Leclerc

You can not do a complete disk copy with XP or Nero directly. When using
XP, you have serveral files opened which will not be able to be re-opened
during the copy process. You should be looking at Norton Ghost. This
allows access to the files before XP starts up can can do a Disk copy. The
destination can be: newer disk (same size or larger), CD-R or disk image.
 
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TANDEX

Yves Leclerc said:
You can not do a complete disk copy with XP or Nero directly. When using
XP, you have serveral files opened which will not be able to be re-opened
during the copy process. You should be looking at Norton Ghost. This
allows access to the files before XP starts up can can do a Disk copy. The
destination can be: newer disk (same size or larger), CD-R or disk image.
 
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Ron Bogart

In
Yves Leclerc said:
You can not do a complete disk copy with XP or Nero directly. When
using XP, you have serveral files opened which will not be able to be
re-opened during the copy process. You should be looking at Norton
Ghost. This allows access to the files before XP starts up can can
do a Disk copy. The destination can be: newer disk (same size or
larger), CD-R or disk image.

Invalid advice unless I read incorrectly. The OP wants to do a Disk Copy of
a CD to another CD. If this is so, then "Copy entire disk" will do as you
desire. You can also choose the Nero Burning Rom option instead of Nero
Express and use the "CD Copy" selection.

--
Ron Bogart {} ô¿ô¬
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
Lovin life on Mercer Island 8^)
"Life is what happens while we are making other plans."
 
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Sam

Apparently, _TANDEX_, on 03/03/2005 08:21 AM,typed:
what is safe way create error-free copy of an entire disc(software program,
autorun): copy it directly from CD to CDROM - "Copy Entire Disc" in Nero, or
first save CD image on hardrive, then write it into CD? I use Nero
Eexpress. Is the direct copying "Copy Entire Disc" reliable enough way?

Here is where I have observed Linux to be of utmost use. In our
university, there are quite a few Linux machines. Copying a disc is
painless:
1) make a copy of the CD to the hard disk (byte by byte, "$>" below is
the command prompt):
$> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/cdcopy.iso

2) burn the copied ISO image back to a blank disk("0,0,0" is the
CDwriter device on a computer here, could be different on different
computers, use "cdrecord -scanbus" command to find out yours):
$> cdrecord dev=0,0,0 /tmp/cdcopy.iso

and tada!! you are done. There is no additional software to be
installed, these commands are quite standard on any Linux distribution.
Whats more, if you have two CD-drives on your computer, you can do this
without actually installing Linux on your computer. Just use one of the
many LiveCDs available online for free. Knoppix is a good one.

Now, I realize this may not be an option for you and that it is quite
possible you have never heard of Linux before. Just wanted to give this
extra info. Why don't you just ask around. If you know somebody who
knows somebody who as Linux on his/her computer, he/she will be glad to
make a backup copy of your disc for you. It is quite easy and straight
forward in Linux.

Regarding how to do it Windows; well I have always run into problems and
have made many coasters :( That, or I have figured I need to buy one
software or another to accomplish this simple task :(


Sam.
 
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NobodyMan

You can not do a complete disk copy with XP or Nero directly. When using
XP, you have serveral files opened which will not be able to be re-opened
during the copy process. You should be looking at Norton Ghost. This
allows access to the files before XP starts up can can do a Disk copy. The
destination can be: newer disk (same size or larger), CD-R or disk image.
What are you smoking, Yves? You MUST be misunderstanding the
question.

XP can't make sector-by-sector exact images of CDROMS, that's true.
Nero, though, can do it just fine with NO problems, and every time if
you use it correctly.

The OP is not trying to use NERO or XP to do a backup of their hard
drive, but to copy a CDROM. If you still think it can't be done, then
explain to me how the file on the CDROM that is being copied can be
"open" and not able for copying.
 
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Sam

Apparently, _Sam_, on 03/03/05 19:33,typed:
Apparently, _TANDEX_, on 03/03/2005 08:21 AM,typed:


Here is where I have observed Linux to be of utmost use. In our
university, there are quite a few Linux machines. Copying a disc is
painless:
1) make a copy of the CD to the hard disk (byte by byte, "$>" below is
the command prompt):
$> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/cdcopy.iso

2) burn the copied ISO image back to a blank disk("0,0,0" is the
CDwriter device on a computer here, could be different on different
computers, use "cdrecord -scanbus" command to find out yours):
$> cdrecord dev=0,0,0 /tmp/cdcopy.iso

and tada!! you are done. <SNIP><SNIP>

Regarding how to do it Windows; well I have always run into problems and
have made many coasters :( That, or I have figured I need to buy one
software or another to accomplish this simple task :(


Sam.


Update: I talked to a friend about this. Seems like there is no need to
use commands I mentioned above. There is a GUI tool in Linux, called
k3b, that can virtually do anything: copy CD's, copy DVD's, backup data
on CDs or DVDs etc. All easier than in Windows and the program is free.

Sam.
 
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TANDEX

Sam said:
Apparently, _Sam_, on 03/03/05 19:33,typed:


Update: I talked to a friend about this. Seems like there is no need to
use commands I mentioned above. There is a GUI tool in Linux, called k3b,
that can virtually do anything: copy CD's, copy DVD's, backup data on CDs
or DVDs etc. All easier than in Windows and the program is free.

Sam.
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Thanks to all for a comprehensive answers!

TANDEX
 

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