What is a "Clean Upgrade" from WIN98 SE to W2K?

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Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I will be
offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
 
Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or setup disks.
The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k CD-rom; change
to the \bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos)
or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will
proceed.

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

If all you have is a pc manufacturer's win98 restore CD-Rom then the best
you can do is clean install win98 then before installing anything start the
upgrade process by inserting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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| Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I will be
| offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
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It is an install of W2k (or any OS) to a freshly formatted partition.

Strictly speaking, it's not an upgrade but an entirely new install that
does not carry any settings forward from a predecessor OS. Semanticists
might argue it's an upgrade, and in a sense it is - but not in the
Microsoft sense. Ambiguity reigns, as always.

As others point out, an "upgrade" from W9x to W2k is an iffy
proposition, since subtle registry errors that DOS-based systems don't
care about can make life very tedious when they are applied to W2k. It's
much, much smarter to do a clean install of W2k.
 
Dave Patrick said:
Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any
number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that
you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/
corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for
the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or
setup disks.
The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k
CD-rom; change
to the bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos)
or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or
other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install,
then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid
unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm
the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply
insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the
install will
proceed.

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the
latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

If all you have is a pc manufacturer's win98 restore CD-Rom
then the best
you can do is clean install win98 then before installing
anything start the
upgrade process by inserting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting
to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

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| Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I
will be
| offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
|
| --
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author's
request
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I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few things here.

I’ll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the ability
during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM drive. Must
I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting that as
one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their floppy
drive)?

Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives (both FAT).
So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete partitions,
abort install" etc.? I’m not wanting to fool with my hard drive
formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of course).

BTW, my WIN98 OS has been fairly stable re hardware devices, etc.

Thanks for your time and help.
 
:
| I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few things here.
|
| I'll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the ability
| during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM drive. Must
| I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting that as
| one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their floppy
| drive)?
* It's only one or the other. Yes, best to boot the CD-Rom if possible.

| Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives (both FAT).
| So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete partitions,
| abort install" etc.? I'm not wanting to fool with my hard drive
| formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of course).
* No, backup your data and delete all partition info found. NTFS is the
native file system of Windows 2000

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
Dave Patrick said:
:
| I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few
things here.
|
| I'll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the
ability
| during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM
drive. Must
| I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting
that as
| one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their
floppy
| drive)?
* It's only one or the other. Yes, best to boot the CD-Rom if
possible.

| Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives
(both FAT).
| So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete
partitions,
| abort install" etc.? I'm not wanting to fool with my hard
drive
| formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of
course).
* No, backup your data and delete all partition info found.
NTFS is the
native file system of Windows 2000

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

Still trying to understand the implications for my data on the hard
drives. I will back up first. But will the W2K install program
convert my drives from FAT to NTFS and leave my data intact, assuming
all goes well?
 
You can but that's definitely not the best way to go about it.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Still trying to understand the implications for my data on the hard
| drives. I will back up first. But will the W2K install program
| convert my drives from FAT to NTFS and leave my data intact, assuming
| all goes well?
|
| --
| Posted using the http://www.windowsforumz.com interface, at author's
request
| Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards
| Topic URL:
http://www.windowsforumz.com/Setup-...ot-Clean-quot-WIN98-SE-W2K-ftopict372221.html
| Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse:
http://www.windowsforumz.com/eform.php?p=1214782
 
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