What Antivirus Products Show Up in Vista

N

nicholas hall

David I have Kaspersky version 6.0.2.614 and the security centre can see it
fine.

NIK
 
R

Rock

David H said:
I have tried AVG, Avast and Kaspersky and none of these are recognised in
the
Security Center in Vista Home Prremium. Could anyone advise me of the
antivirus software it does detect or if this could be a problem with my
vista
upgrade which was from XP.

There's something messed up with the installation. If you have used the
Vista compatible versions for those AV products, they should show up in
security center.
 
G

Guest

Hello Richard,

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.
 
G

Guest

Hello Jupiter,

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.

--
Windows Vista
Become Part of The Legacy!



Jupiter Jones said:
"What you described is Vista just doing its proper job"
FALSE.
AVG and probably the others are recognized in the vista Security Center.
I have been using AVG with Vista RTM for over 3 months and AVG is monitored
by Vista.

"Vista end users that *never* add third party programs rarely ever visit
theses Forums"
Really?
Can you back this claim with facts?
Or perhaps they know so little they can not install anything else of locate
places such as this for solutions to problems.

Define "third party programs"
That covers just about everything from any source outside Microsoft.
I do not know about you, but I use programs from sources outside Microsoft
(3rd party programs)

"XP needed third party a/v. Vista is not XP"
Not relevant.
That says NOTHING about the need for AV in Vista.
Please point to a Microsoft source that says an anti virus product is not
needed for Vista.
I am certain you do not need help finding a source that shows the need for
an Antivirus in Vista since it is already in this thread.

Suggestions such as not needing an anti virus are dangerous at best.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
G

Guest

Paul,

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask. Considering
your incredible lack of knowledge regarding Windows Vista as a whole, likely,
you indeed will need help!

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.

--
Windows Vista
Become Part of The Legacy!
 
G

Guest

Hello David,

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? The
same URL as previously provided.

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.
 
G

Guest

Hello (e-mail address removed),

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.
 
D

Detlev Rackow

Jonathan said:
Paul,

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask. Considering
your incredible lack of knowledge regarding Windows Vista as a whole, likely,
you indeed will need help!
Jonathan,

I believe that You've had your part of the fun, but now it's time to
step aside and let others handle real problems in an earnest way.

Regards,

Detlev
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

There is nothing there that says anti virus protection is not needed.
"...interrelated security features to help defend your PC against
malware..."
That helps and that is good.
But that does not mean no anti virus protection is needed.
You are assuming a lot, enough to be dangerous.

It is noted you ignored my question about 3rd party programs.
It is also noted you ignored my comment about your statement "What you
described is Vista just doing its proper job"
Probably because you know this information is FALSE and has been proven so
several times in this thread.

Apparently you are unable to find a source to show anti virus is needed.
The easy answer is quickly found on any Windows Vista computer.

Your assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions are dangerous for others
when followed on the mistaken beliefs.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
G

Guest

Mathew Kimball,
Preface Note: please read my entire brief response, and please don't jump to
conclusions before the conclusion.

Mathew, do you have a greater technical knowledge of Vista than Jim
Allchin's technical knowledge of Vista?

During 2006 Jim Allchin (before retirement) wrote a very thorough article
fully discussing and explaining why third party a/v is not necessary when
using Vista. Did Jim Allchin write do not ever install third party a/v, no.
Instead, fully explained why those third party a/v will not harm Vista
because they run with very limited authority never penetrating Vista's
inherent Security. Has your a/v ever identified a threat of any type?
(assuming you have not weakened UAC, Defender and IE 7).

Remain uncertain for a full Reply...my dilemma, how is it possible for
responding to very stubborn dogmatic person?

Mathew, you are an intelligent man, why are you asking me questions that you
should be fully aware?

Question, which third party applications *repeatedly* create the -most-
havoc for Vista, and why? The why is the ultimate key for knowledge!

Forthcoming a partial quote from you, the only thing that "has been proven
so several times in this thread" Mathew's lack of technical knowledge in
respect to the inherent Security within Windows Vista.

Mathew, if you refuse researching the technical reasons for the inherent
Security within Vista, and refuse believing written articles provided by
Microsoft employees, please don't assign blame toward me, instead, argue and
debate the IT PhDs employed by Microsoft. Jim Allchin is retired yet
available for your debate, although not certain if you would believe Jim
Allchin, at least at this writing you refuse believing Jim Allchin.

Mathew, sincere question, are you overly confident believing that only you
are right, and all others are wrong?

The manner that you jump to conclusions is somewhat alarming.
Example, today (and again), within General Discussion, there is a Post with
Subject Line: C.O.L.A. Linux Advocacy Newcomer FAQ and Primer. The above
humorous Post discusses why Linux is far beyond an inferior OS.

Quote from the above C.O.L.A. Post: "Read these carefully before you decide
to invest time in Linux, you
may find that you have better things you can do instead."

Mathew, easily I can guide you to the source for Vista's technical
knowledge, although, I can not force you for believing facts, don't you think
it's time for you performing your part?

My technical knowledge of Windows Vista results from Microsoft, what about
yours?

One of these days you might realize the older you get, the more that you
realize how little you know, maybe, time will determine...

Shared more than I desired sharing regarding third party a/v...

--
Windows Vista
Become Part of The Legacy!
 
R

Richard Urban

Give it a rest - please!

I take it that you are a writer of virus's and you are just trying to prime
the pump for your wares.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



Jonathan Schwartz 2 said:
Mathew Kimball,
Preface Note: please read my entire brief response, and please don't jump
to
conclusions before the conclusion.

Mathew, do you have a greater technical knowledge of Vista than Jim
Allchin's technical knowledge of Vista?

During 2006 Jim Allchin (before retirement) wrote a very thorough article
fully discussing and explaining why third party a/v is not necessary when
using Vista. Did Jim Allchin write do not ever install third party a/v,
no.
Instead, fully explained why those third party a/v will not harm Vista
because they run with very limited authority never penetrating Vista's
inherent Security. Has your a/v ever identified a threat of any type?
(assuming you have not weakened UAC, Defender and IE 7).

Remain uncertain for a full Reply...my dilemma, how is it possible for
responding to very stubborn dogmatic person?

Mathew, you are an intelligent man, why are you asking me questions that
you
should be fully aware?

Question, which third party applications *repeatedly* create the -most-
havoc for Vista, and why? The why is the ultimate key for knowledge!

Forthcoming a partial quote from you, the only thing that "has been
proven
so several times in this thread" Mathew's lack of technical knowledge in
respect to the inherent Security within Windows Vista.

Mathew, if you refuse researching the technical reasons for the inherent
Security within Vista, and refuse believing written articles provided by
Microsoft employees, please don't assign blame toward me, instead, argue
and
debate the IT PhDs employed by Microsoft. Jim Allchin is retired yet
available for your debate, although not certain if you would believe Jim
Allchin, at least at this writing you refuse believing Jim Allchin.

Mathew, sincere question, are you overly confident believing that only you
are right, and all others are wrong?

The manner that you jump to conclusions is somewhat alarming.
Example, today (and again), within General Discussion, there is a Post
with
Subject Line: C.O.L.A. Linux Advocacy Newcomer FAQ and Primer. The above
humorous Post discusses why Linux is far beyond an inferior OS.

Quote from the above C.O.L.A. Post: "Read these carefully before you
decide
to invest time in Linux, you
may find that you have better things you can do instead."

Mathew, easily I can guide you to the source for Vista's technical
knowledge, although, I can not force you for believing facts, don't you
think
it's time for you performing your part?

My technical knowledge of Windows Vista results from Microsoft, what about
yours?

One of these days you might realize the older you get, the more that you
realize how little you know, maybe, time will determine...

Shared more than I desired sharing regarding third party a/v...

--
Windows Vista
Become Part of The Legacy!
 
R

Rock

Jonathan Schwartz 2 said:
Mathew Kimball,
Preface Note: please read my entire brief response, and please don't jump
to
conclusions before the conclusion.

Mathew, do you have a greater technical knowledge of Vista than Jim
Allchin's technical knowledge of Vista?

During 2006 Jim Allchin (before retirement) wrote a very thorough article
fully discussing and explaining why third party a/v is not necessary when
using Vista. Did Jim Allchin write do not ever install third party a/v,
no.
Instead, fully explained why those third party a/v will not harm Vista
because they run with very limited authority never penetrating Vista's
inherent Security. Has your a/v ever identified a threat of any type?
(assuming you have not weakened UAC, Defender and IE 7).

Remain uncertain for a full Reply...my dilemma, how is it possible for
responding to very stubborn dogmatic person?

Mathew, you are an intelligent man, why are you asking me questions that
you
should be fully aware?

Question, which third party applications *repeatedly* create the -most-
havoc for Vista, and why? The why is the ultimate key for knowledge!

Forthcoming a partial quote from you, the only thing that "has been
proven
so several times in this thread" Mathew's lack of technical knowledge in
respect to the inherent Security within Windows Vista.

Mathew, if you refuse researching the technical reasons for the inherent
Security within Vista, and refuse believing written articles provided by
Microsoft employees, please don't assign blame toward me, instead, argue
and
debate the IT PhDs employed by Microsoft. Jim Allchin is retired yet
available for your debate, although not certain if you would believe Jim
Allchin, at least at this writing you refuse believing Jim Allchin.

Mathew, sincere question, are you overly confident believing that only you
are right, and all others are wrong?

The manner that you jump to conclusions is somewhat alarming.
Example, today (and again), within General Discussion, there is a Post
with
Subject Line: C.O.L.A. Linux Advocacy Newcomer FAQ and Primer. The above
humorous Post discusses why Linux is far beyond an inferior OS.

Quote from the above C.O.L.A. Post: "Read these carefully before you
decide
to invest time in Linux, you
may find that you have better things you can do instead."

Mathew, easily I can guide you to the source for Vista's technical
knowledge, although, I can not force you for believing facts, don't you
think
it's time for you performing your part?

My technical knowledge of Windows Vista results from Microsoft, what about
yours?

One of these days you might realize the older you get, the more that you
realize how little you know, maybe, time will determine...

Shared more than I desired sharing regarding third party a/v...

Here is Allchin's written response in the Vista blog about the need to use
an anti-virus program with Vista. It states, in part,

"Now, the comments have unfortunately been cited out of context implying
that I said Windows Vista users shouldn’t use antivirus. I want to be clear,
most users will use some form of antivirus software, and that will be
appropriate for their scenarios. In fact, Windows Security Center, a great
feature in Windows Vista, specifically encourages the use of antivirus
software."

He never said it wasn't needed. So stop posting this nonsense.

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w...006/11/10/windows-vista-defense-in-depth.aspx
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"are you overly confident believing that only you are right, and all others
are wrong"

Obviously I am not.
As is obvious, others know the truth as I so obviously I am not the only
one.
Now go back and read your sources and keep it in context this time.

Read Rocks post for clarification as to What Jim said.
Since you have trouble keeping his original comments in context, this makes
it clear.

Suggesting anti virus is not needed can be dangerous for typical users.
Jim's child's computer in that locked down state is far from typical.
 
G

Guest

that is correct! vista itself states expressly that the security center will
not monitor 3rd party antimalware. thus, this does NOT mean that the 3rd
party s/w is incompatible - it just means that security center will neither
monitor it nor recognize it. if updates are required, it is strictly between
you and the 3rd party company; the security center will not notify you that
updates are needed. this is true even for antivirus software, which onecare,
and ms in general, does not sponsor. but this is not a problem because the
3rd party's have an extensive, efficient auto-update mechanism. if you have
adequate 3rd party coverage then you can simply disable security center.

nevertheless, i have found windows Defender to be more than adequate for
moderate warrior use (if you are an extreme warrior, looking for trouble,
then you may want something more powerful), as is true of Windows firewall.
 
G

Guest

have you considered a psychiatrist?

Jonathan Schwartz 2 said:
Hello (e-mail address removed),

Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
(malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
fraudulent or deceptive websites.

Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
provides more levels of defense than ever before.
 

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