What AGP card is best for Vista Business?

[Leythos]

Now that I can't get any good scores on any of my computers with
AGP/PCIx with 64 to 256MB RAM, what cards are people seeing a rating of
3.0 or higher with?

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[Metta]

For business unless you are running graphics intensive software or very
large monitors a score of 2 is fine!

If you need the power and run large monitors then anything at or above 512mb
DDR3 ram
M

 

[Metta]

Also if you want high scores for graphics, try Gforce 8800 - either GTS or
GTX at 640mb DDR3 gives max score of 5.9
as does a AGP 8 Gforce 7800 GS 512mb

Neither are needed for basic use, only for high end graphic, very large
monitors or high end games.

M

 

[Leythos]

Also if you want high scores for graphics, try Gforce 7800 GS - either GTS or
GTX at 640mb DDR3 gives max score of 5.9
as does a AGP 8 Gforce 7800 GS 512mb

Neither are needed for basic use, only for high end graphic, very large
monitors or high end games.

Thanks, I'm replacing my P4/3.2Ghz machine that has dual 20" screens
with a Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM machine and I have one game, GuildWars
that I play on weekends, the rest of the time it's just network design,
code design, lots of word/excel/visio drawings and such.

I'll look for the cards you mention above - thanks.


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[GeekBoy]

Thanks, I'm replacing my P4/3.2Ghz machine that has dual 20" screens
with a Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM machine and I have one game, GuildWars
that I play on weekends, the rest of the time it's just network design,
code design, lots of word/excel/visio drawings and such.

I'll look for the cards you mention above - thanks.

In that case you may as well go with PCI Express

 

[Leythos]

In that case you may as well go with PCI Express

Can't the machine in Question has AGP only.

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[Guest]

nvidia 7600gt is AGP and is good value.

 

[GeekBoy]

Can't the machine in Question has AGP only.

Yes, so that would mean getting new motherboard.
But why pay the same price for AGO when you can get more performance with
PCI express?

 

[Leythos]

Yes, so that would mean getting new motherboard.
But why pay the same price for AGO when you can get more performance with
PCI express?

Don't know much about ROI or cost do you?

New video card to get what I need - about $300

New motherboard, new CPU's, new Memory for motherboard/CPU's, new video
card - about $3500

I have a Dual Xeon CPU system with lots of ECC memory, why would I want
to change the motherboard and have to go through all that expense when I
could just go back to windows xp or server 2003? The video card is the
cheapest solution, staying AGP.

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[GeekBoy]

Don't know much about ROI or cost do you?

New video card to get what I need - about $300

New motherboard, new CPU's, new Memory for motherboard/CPU's, new video
card - about $3500

I have a Dual Xeon CPU system with lots of ECC memory, why would I want
to change the motherboard and have to go through all that expense when I
could just go back to windows xp or server 2003? The video card is the
cheapest solution, staying AGP.

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ROI? Better system performance.
You could have 16 Xeons and the games would still play the same due to the
slower bus of AGP.
Intel came out with that in the late 90s.
Notice there has not been an update in some years while PCI Express is at
16x.

 

[Leythos]

ROI? Better system performance.
You could have 16 Xeons and the games would still play the same due to the
slower bus of AGP.

Not true, the AGP bus is plenty fast for most games, including the only
one I play, I know this because I have other AGP machines that play it
just fine in XP/2003.

Intel came out with that in the late 90s.
Notice there has not been an update in some years while PCI Express is at
16x.

And, a Dual Xeon hyper-hreaded CPU system with 4GB gets almost 5.x
across the board in everything except video, and that means that while
Vista may be nice, the system screams in all modes, apps, development,
under XP and 2003 just fine. So, we're back to it not being the AGP Bus,
it's the Vista Video system that's the bottle neck.


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[GeekBoy]

Not true, the AGP bus is plenty fast for most games, including the only
one I play, I know this because I have other AGP machines that play it
just fine in XP/2003.


And, a Dual Xeon hyper-hreaded CPU system with 4GB gets almost 5.x
across the board in everything except video, and that means that while
Vista may be nice, the system screams in all modes, apps, development,
under XP and 2003 just fine. So, we're back to it not being the AGP Bus,
it's the Vista Video system that's the bottle neck.

I would agree on that since going from a onboard video (ATI X200) to a $75
video card upgrade (nVidia 7300 PCIE) only netted a .7 index increase on one
one f my computers,
BUT..People spending on those $300 cards claim index at 5.

I do not beleive you could ever acheive that with AGP

 

[Leythos]

I would agree on that since going from a onboard video (ATI X200) to a $75
video card upgrade (nVidia 7300 PCIE) only netted a .7 index increase on one
one f my computers,
BUT..People spending on those $300 cards claim index at 5.

I do not beleive you could ever acheive that with AGP

I would be happy with being able to play games at the same performance
level as on XP, and to get the same level of performance in video as I
do on XP/2003, there can't be a good reason for the change.

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[Metta]

Having responded to the original thread I would like to add a comment.

I have an AGP 7800 GS that runs perfectly in an old P4 system, inc 1080p
video and has a good score in Vista. Although it is now an "old pc" it runs
perfectly.

I also have a new PCI based board with an 8800 GS card, there is virtually
no difference in video, but progs etc run considerably faster not because of
PCI express video but because the processor and ram are bang up to date Duel
core and DDR2 1066 ram). It cost well over £1000 to build. it cost £150 to
upgrade the video on the old AGP board . Both work perfectly, but the new
machine is now used for editing etc because of processing power, nothing to
do with the graphics card.

The rush to abandon AGP was unnecessary, it works very well in all but the
most demanding situations.

M