Well that's a new trick

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PerfectReign

Sjouke said:
If you have to ask, the answer will not teach you anything :)

I looked it up.

It is a common problem on Wintendo computers.

Nothing for me to worry about.

:)
 
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winged said:
A pterasaur impersonating Bluuuue Rajah posted this in alt.2600:


Hey you're sweet when you talk tuff.

Are you stealing Maddies shtick?
He gets vehwey angwee when anywon steals his shtick...
 
C

catchme

PeeCee wrote:

The uproductive effort and energy required to evade getting caught
eventually dawns even on the dimmest downloader.

not true; in fact, the RIAA and the CRIA is largely losing in court:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8955/C... that RIAA Can't Identify Users by IP Address
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/07/judge-awards-68000-in-attorneys-fees.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/08/oklahoma-state-university-students-move.html
http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDF.asp?filename=arista_does1-11_070806DeclarationJaysonStreet
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/01/thoughtful-decision-in-2007-california.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/10/transcript-of-june-17th-conference-in.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/09/riaas-222000-verdict-in-capitol-v.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/5-out-of-6-counterclaims-against-riaa.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/02/default-judgment-denied-in-atlantic-v.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/01/magistrate-judge-in-university-of-maine.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/04/riaas-summary-judgment-motion-denied-in.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/tanya-andersens-motion-for-attorneys.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/02/judge-grants-debbie-fosters-attorneys.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/02/california-judge-dismisses-riaa-case.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/#grokster
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/04/riaas-boston-university-subpoena.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/riaa-complaint-dismissed-in-california.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/2004-decision-ordering-severance-of.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2006/11/judge-grants-marie-lindors-motion-to_09.html
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-riaa-litigation-process-works.html
http://www.cippic.ca/en/projects-cases/file-sharing-lawsuits/
http://www.musiccreators.ca/wp/
http://www.digitalfreedom.org/the_issue/index.html


Besides music is best enjoyed in it's consumption not in it's acquisition.
What would you rather do, spend hours downloading, scanning & filing
your precious files, or, slapping on a set of can's and spending the
same time listening?

PeeCee

the riaa and its ilk have ever been afraid of technologies in the hands
of the consumers, which they fear threaten their profits.
Ironically this attitude has helped the innovative process turn towards
non- royalty music, operating on principles similar to the open-source
software movement.
It is no wonder that the next p2p networks will be entirely open-source,
and searching for bands they discovered not through major labels'
marketing channels, but through the sites that the artists themselves
put up and promote!
The RIAA have ensured their coming demise in the same manner as the
Church killed off their own scribes in their madness to eradicate "the
devils' own" Gutenberg Press.
I bought my wife a cd last night- imagine my surprise to find an FBI
warning sticker....in CANADA of all places!
I could rip the entire cd off p2p in minutes, and not have to be treated
to a warning sticker all but accusing me of knowingly distributing
copies of this cd intended for my wife (why does burning to an ipod
shuffle constitute illegal copying?; I bought the cd, but it is for my
wife- i am breaking the law by transferring ownership. My wife may want
to make a backup copy to protect her media- this too, is supposedly
illegal, despite pre-existing guidelines pertaining to fair use)
**** the RIAA, CRIA AND the IRA!

--
To the States or any one of them, or any city of the States,
Resist much, obey little,
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved,
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth,
ever after-ward resumes its liberty.

-Walt Whitman, 1860
 
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Onideus Mad Hatter

snip


I would concede the 'average' downloader is less likely to be sued by the
RIAA.
The 'caught' I was refering to though was of the Trojan, Virus variety.

From the PC Authority article I refered to elsewhere in this thread:
<quote>
"David Philips, who runs a malware course at the UK's Open University, gives
talks to teenagers about malware. And when he describes the particular risks
of file sharing, you can see from the sheepish looks that they've all
encountered these problems."
</quote>

Cleaning out some of the nasties from poisoned downloads can take
hours/days.
In the extreme of course they have to pay professionals to reinstall their
operating system.
Kind of makes their 'free' music rather expensive doesn't it.
All the more so when the nasty they got blows their files away and they've
got nothing to show for all that time spent downloading.

Those viruses and malware aren't being put out by the MPAA and RIAA,
rather they're being put out by pirates liak myself who recognize the
fact that piracy doesn't work if everyone is doing it, so we actively
support the MPAA and RIAA with their scare tactics in order to reduce
the number of those who are pirating and in general we try to make it
as difficult as possible for people to pirate. For a *TRUE* data
pirate there's no such thing as "sharing", pirates don't share, they
take, they plunder, they **** over anyone else they can and believe
that pirating in general should be a *DIFFICULT* thing to do which
requires an extreme level of technical expertise in order to keep out
all the ignorant sheeple minded ****wits who, by all accounts,
*SHOULD* be paying for the content they download.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
O

Onideus Mad Hatter

A Pterasaur impersonating ?? posted this in alt.2600:


I used that expressiopn at least eight years ago, probably in 2600.warez,
maybe in a reply to one Huckleberry Hashimoto or whatever his stupid nym
was. Can't remember what nym I was using at that time.

For idiots liak BabyFur I apparently invented *EVERYTHING* on teh
Usenets. *nods*

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
C

catchme

PeeCee said:
snip


I would concede the 'average' downloader is less likely to be sued by
the RIAA.
The 'caught' I was refering to though was of the Trojan, Virus variety.

From the PC Authority article I refered to elsewhere in this thread:
<quote>
"David Philips, who runs a malware course at the UK's Open University,
gives talks to teenagers about malware. And when he describes the
particular risks of file sharing, you can see from the sheepish looks
that they've all encountered these problems."
</quote>

Cleaning out some of the nasties from poisoned downloads can take
hours/days.
In the extreme of course they have to pay professionals to reinstall
their operating system.
Kind of makes their 'free' music rather expensive doesn't it.
All the more so when the nasty they got blows their files away and
they've got nothing to show for all that time spent downloading.

PeeCee
buying a cd through traditional retail channels no longer guarantees
that you will not be subject to similar nasties slowing up the hard
drive, and locking up your cd- drive from recording ANYTHING.
I was shocked to discover how Japanese AVEX- tracks cds can quickly
affect a machine, and now i take pains to avoid buying anything that
appears to have DRM or other copy-protection schemes locked on their media.
 
C

catchme

Onideus said:
Those viruses and malware aren't being put out by the MPAA and RIAA,
rather they're being put out by pirates liak myself who recognize the
fact that piracy doesn't work if everyone is doing it, so we actively
support the MPAA and RIAA with their scare tactics in order to reduce
the number of those who are pirating and in general we try to make it
as difficult as possible for people to pirate. For a *TRUE* data
pirate there's no such thing as "sharing", pirates don't share, they
take, they plunder, they **** over anyone else they can and believe
that pirating in general should be a *DIFFICULT* thing to do which
requires an extreme level of technical expertise in order to keep out
all the ignorant sheeple minded ****wits who, by all accounts,
*SHOULD* be paying for the content they download.
the thing is, not everyone IS pirating, and this applies to the many
legitimate uses of p2p filesharers as well.
The RIAA, etc. is indeed indulging in 'scare tactics'- but then, they've
always done this.
What the RIAA, etc. are afraid of, is the consumer bypassing the labels,
to transact directly with the artist.
They've been afraid since the first video machines (almost) hit the
market, and with each new technology, the labels become the more paranoid.
 
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§ñühw¤£f

Onideus said:
For idiots liak BabyFur I apparently invented *EVERYTHING* on teh
Usenets. *nods*
So you stole *his* shtick?
Got it.

Btw, your boss says the carts are piling up in the parking lot, again.
 
O

Onideus Mad Hatter

So y<COCK SLAP>

I'm sorry, BabyFur, I can't hear you over how awesome I am.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
B

Bluuuue Rajah

The RIAA does not 'infect' P2P clients, they don't have to, it is the
'file' that is infected.
Pedant.

What smlunatick points out is the RIAA releases infected files 'via'
various P2P networks.
Which P2P network is basically irrelevant as it's the content that
phones home not the P2P client.

As so many others hae pointed out to you, download music via P2P and
you 'will' get burned.
Lie.

The uproductive effort and energy required to evade getting caught
eventually dawns even on the dimmest downloader.
Shill.

Besides music is best enjoyed in it's consumption not in it's
acquisition. What would you rather do, spend hours downloading,
scanning & filing your precious files, or, slapping on a set of can's
and spending the same time listening?

Lie.
 

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