Weird discovery resolved .. READ ME :-)

[johns]

I finally got to Dell tech support on the issue of the high
speed imaging I witnessed on my Dell 4600 lab computers. Here it is:

http://www.techweb.com/wire/26801299

and indeed there is a new toy out there we all should
watch. Everybody is jumping on it .... Dell, IBM,
Gateway ...
It is the Intel 865PE chipset and new P4 with 800mhz
front side bus. Seems hyperthreading has come to
the affordable desktop PC ... formerly reserved for
high end servers. Hyperthreading makes a single CPU
look like 2 virtual CPUs and doubles the instruction
rate .. resulting in a 30% increase in application
performance. Indeed that is what I saw .. only I saw
a 40% increase in image transfer rate. AND, note ...
they claim faster video performance. This I gotta see.
I'm ordering a top end video card for one of these
machines, and I'll get back to y'all. We paid $750
for each of them ( no monitors ). Now I get it. So ...
is hyperthreading coming to the AMD mobos ??
Which chipset will that be?

johns

 

[Chris]

I finally got to Dell tech support on the issue of the high
speed imaging I witnessed on my Dell 4600 lab computers. Here it is:

http://www.techweb.com/wire/26801299

and indeed there is a new toy out there we all should
watch. Everybody is jumping on it .... Dell, IBM,
Gateway ...
It is the Intel 865PE chipset and new P4 with 800mhz
front side bus. Seems hyperthreading has come to
the affordable desktop PC ... formerly reserved for
high end servers. Hyperthreading makes a single CPU
look like 2 virtual CPUs and doubles the instruction
rate .. resulting in a 30% increase in application
performance. Indeed that is what I saw .. only I saw
a 40% increase in image transfer rate. AND, note ...
they claim faster video performance. This I gotta see.
I'm ordering a top end video card for one of these
machines, and I'll get back to y'all. We paid $750
for each of them ( no monitors ). Now I get it. So ...
is hyperthreading coming to the AMD mobos ??
Which chipset will that be?

johns

Are you for real? Hyperthreading is very old news now, DUAL core processors
are only weeks away from going on general sale. Just about every one knows
that turning Hyperthreading OFF makes a PC run faster in every day
applications.This has been on sale for at least a couple of years.


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[dg]

Are you saying you contacted Dell tech support because you were imaging
computers too fast?

 

[johns]

Are you for real? Hyperthreading is very old news now,

I read all the stuff amateurs like you push on the web.
Truth is none of you have any experience in any of this.
I just attended a Sun Microsystems seminar on the
dual core processors ... and I also attended an Intel
seminar on why they pulled back. Hyperthreading has
not been evaluated at all by the "pros-in-the-field"
until just now, and WE are seeing the results. I read
again and again how one clown after another would
speculate about how hyperthreading could "probably"
not push apps to higher rates ... but now, I'm bench
marking it .. and guess what, Moron! I have 1200
computers to work with. Hyperthreading works. It
is beating the AMD64s in the apps .. .especially when
ddr dram ( have you heard about that yet ?) is used
in double read mode ... and virtually nobody is doing
that yet either, because they are on chipsets that don't
support it even if the stuff is in their machines running
in single read mode. Sure hyperthreading is old ... I
did say that you freaking idiot. Sun Microsystems has
used it for more than 10 years .. and guess what. They
don't turn it off. And nobody knows that turning it
off makes a PC run faster in "everyday" apps. I have
AutoCAD, Solidworks, MathCad, Matlab, the entire
Office suit, EES, all of those "everyday" apps running
in 7 labs, and they run faster on the Dell 4600s than
they do on equivalent P4s 2.8 by at least 20%. So stop
reading the newsgroups, and then trying to sound like
you are informed. Where's your data?

johns

 

[sdeyoreo]

I finally got to Dell tech support on the issue of the high
speed imaging I witnessed on my Dell 4600 lab computers. Here it is:

http://www.techweb.com/wire/26801299

and indeed there is a new toy out there we all should
watch. Everybody is jumping on it .... Dell, IBM,
Gateway ...
It is the Intel 865PE chipset and new P4 with 800mhz
front side bus.

The 865 & p4 800MHz w/HT is NOT a"new toy". My D865PERL &P4 @ 3.0GHz
w/HT is over a year old. (and faster mobos ,1066 FSB, are out by INTEL
already)

 

[sdeyoreo]

I read all the stuff amateurs like you push on the web.
Truth is none of you have any experience in any of this.
I just attended a Sun Microsystems seminar on the
dual core processors ... and I also attended an Intel
seminar on why they pulled back. Hyperthreading has
not been evaluated at all by the "pros-in-the-field"
until just now, and WE are seeing the results. I read
again and again how one clown after another would
speculate about how hyperthreading could "probably"
not push apps to higher rates ... but now, I'm bench
marking it .. and guess what, Moron! I have 1200
computers to work with. Hyperthreading works. It
is beating the AMD64s in the apps .. .especially when
ddr dram ( have you heard about that yet ?) is used
in double read mode ... and virtually nobody is doing
that yet either,

Man, I don't know where you've been, but lots a people use DDR ram.
See here: http://sdeyoreo.tripod.com/Alien-X.htm

 

[dawg]

Still doesn't make hyperthreading " new".
And,AMD systems have been using DDR ram in Dual Channel mode for a while
too. And,for the record Hyperthreading will be disabled on the just
released dual core Intel chips except for the high end XEONs.

 

[rhys]

I finally got to Dell tech support on the issue of the high
speed imaging I witnessed on my Dell 4600 lab computers. Here it is:

http://www.techweb.com/wire/26801299

and indeed there is a new toy out there we all should
watch. Everybody is jumping on it .... Dell, IBM,
Gateway ...
It is the Intel 865PE chipset and new P4 with 800mhz
front side bus. Seems hyperthreading has come to
the affordable desktop PC ... formerly reserved for
high end servers. Hyperthreading makes a single CPU
look like 2 virtual CPUs and doubles the instruction
rate .. resulting in a 30% increase in application
performance. Indeed that is what I saw .. only I saw
a 40% increase in image transfer rate. AND, note ...
they claim faster video performance. This I gotta see.
I'm ordering a top end video card for one of these
machines, and I'll get back to y'all. We paid $750
for each of them ( no monitors ). Now I get it. So ...
is hyperthreading coming to the AMD mobos ??
Which chipset will that be?

I write press releases. You sound like a press release desperately
trying to be a "civilian" post.

Feh.