Web sites blocked, Windows update blocked

G

Guest

I have a brand new Dell Vostro 1700 laptop.
I re-installed Vista Business yesterday, loaded on AVG anti virus. All was
ok.
Today, AVG won't update, I can't browse to microsoft.com (+others), and
Windows Update failes with code 8024402C.

All other machines on my network (wireless) are working ok, it's just this
one machine running vista (all others xp).
I can ping microsoft.com, but it doesn't work even if I type in the
xx.xx.xx.xx into my browser. It's the same for IE & Firefox, so it doesn't
sound like a browser issue.

Any ideas?
Some sort of virus?
 
G

Guest

It turns out the problem is that Vista is not compatible with my NAT/firewall
(an old copy of Kerio).
After a couple more days it turns out my pro audio (tascam) system doesn't
have Vista drivers anyway.

So I've dumped Vista and gone back to XP-SP2 which works first time for
everything.
 
L

Leythos

It turns out the problem is that Vista is not compatible with my NAT/firewall
(an old copy of Kerio).
After a couple more days it turns out my pro audio (tascam) system doesn't
have Vista drivers anyway.

So I've dumped Vista and gone back to XP-SP2 which works first time for
everything.

Why are you not using a NAT Router instead of a soft firewall that can
be exploited and hacked?

Get a NAT Router and you can use your computer with more safety than a
personal firewall APP provides.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
G

Guest

Any router can be hacked, be-it hardware or software. The firewall software
I'm using is a corporate firewall, not some freebie personal one.

Anyway, the problem is with Vista not my firewall.
 
L

Leythos

Any router can be hacked, be-it hardware or software. The firewall software
I'm using is a corporate firewall, not some freebie personal one.

Anyway, the problem is with Vista not my firewall.

Most all NAT Routers are more/better tested than the Windows Firewall is
against all of the apps installed on your PC - there are less injection
points in a NAT router than your PC.

And just what "Corporate" firewall software are you using that you
believe is better?

Does the firewall allow YOU to create rules/exceptions?

Does the firewall allow the system/you create rules/exceptions to enable
you to use different networks that you might connect to?

Since every Vista PC we have, hundreds of them, has never had a problem
getting to Windows Update, and they are not using some personal firewall
app, then the problem is most likely your personal firewall and/or how
it's changed your settings.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
G

Guest

Look, I'm not getting into a flamewar about my firewall is better than yours.

The firewall I originally mentioned has never been successfully penetrated.
yes it allows exceptions exacly as you mentioned. It has not been a problem
with Win98/ME/2K or XP.

The problem is that Vista is using the DHCP broadcast flag by default
whereas all previous versions of Windows didn't.

Of course all your Vista PCs aren't going to have a problem if your firewall
supports it. Mine doesn't and at the moment I can't afford the time or
effort to upgrade to one that does.
 
L

Leythos

Look, I'm not getting into a flamewar about my firewall is better than yours.

The firewall I originally mentioned has never been successfully penetrated.
yes it allows exceptions exacly as you mentioned. It has not been a problem
with Win98/ME/2K or XP.

The problem is that Vista is using the DHCP broadcast flag by default
whereas all previous versions of Windows didn't.

Of course all your Vista PCs aren't going to have a problem if your firewall
supports it. Mine doesn't and at the moment I can't afford the time or
effort to upgrade to one that does.

I didn't ask for a flamewar - what Firewall is it? Are you going to say
that you've got the best firewall and then not tell anyone what it is so
that they can benefit from it?


--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
G

Guest

As I said in my earlier post, it's an old copy of Kerio WinRoute 5.

I'm not claiming it's the best firewall. It's just never let any attack
through but it's not compatible with Vista.
 
M

Mr. Arnold

soundman32 said:
Any router can be hacked, be-it hardware or software. The firewall
software
I'm using is a corporate firewall, not some freebie personal one.

This is a new one. Please do explain what is a corporate FW. There is no
such thing as a corporate FW.
 
G

Guest

A corporate one as in one that is used for a corporation. One that supports
thousands of users simultaneously as opposed to a personal firewall that
supports one (or perhaps a few) at home.

What is going on here?

Am I being attacked by the Vista zelots?
 
M

Mr. Arnold

soundman32 said:
A corporate one as in one that is used for a corporation. One that
supports
thousands of users simultaneously as opposed to a personal firewall that
supports one (or perhaps a few) at home.

What is going on here?

Am I being attacked by the Vista zelots?

A corporate FW it's not. You must be talking about a network FW of the
appliance type or software network FW sitting on a gateway computer,
protecting a LAN.

I am just trying to find out what you're talking about.

At the very least, you should know what you're talking about pertaining to
FW(s), like not calling something a *corporate* FW. ;-) It makes you look
like you don't know what you are talking about.

So, I guess you have one of the solutions being talked about in the link,
and it cost you a pretty penny or two. I am talking $300 or more, since
it's business classed.

http://www.more.net/technical/netserv/tcpip/firewalls/
 

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