We will remember them
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The loss of life from the two World Wars is appauling. We will remember them.
And lets not forget all our boys (and girls) in Afghanistan and Iraq - I can't imagine the guts needed to lay your life on the line for your country.
And lets not forget all our boys (and girls) in Afghanistan and Iraq - I can't imagine the guts needed to lay your life on the line for your country.
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Well said CL 
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The soldiers will always be rebmembered and rightly so .
But who will remember all the resistance fighters and civillians who helped to win the war .
The whole wiki is worth reading . Heres an extract ,
Estimates for the total casualties of the war vary, but most suggest that some 60 million people died in the war, including about 20 million soldiers and 40 million civilians.[1][51][52] Many civilians died as a result of disease, starvation, massacres, genocide. The Soviet Union lost around 27 million people during the war, about half of all World War II casualties.[53] Of the total deaths in World War II, approximately 85% were on the Allied side (mostly Soviet and Chinese) and 15% on the Axis side. One estimate is that 12 million civilians died in Holocaust camps, 1.5 million by bombs, 7 million in Europe from other causes, and 7.5 million in China from other causes.[54] Figures on the amount of total casualties varies to a wide extent because the majority of deaths were not documented.
Corpses in the Auschwitz camp in Poland - the largest of the German Nazi extermination camps.
Mistreated and starved prisoners in the Mauthausen camp, Austria, 1945.
Concentration camps and slave work
The Holocaust was the killing of approximately six million European Jews, as well as another six million others who were deemed "unworthy of life" (including the disabled and mentally ill, Soviet POWs, homosexuals, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and the Roma) as part of a program of deliberate extermination planned and executed by the National Socialist government in Germany led by Adolf Hitler.
In addition to the Nazi concentration camps, the Soviet Gulag, or labor camps, led to the death of citizens of occupied countries such as Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, as well as German prisoners of war (POW) and even Soviet citizens themselves who had been or were thought to be supporters of the Nazis.[55] Sixty percent of Soviet POWs died during the war.[56] Vadim Erlikman puts it at 2.6 million Soviet POWs that died in German Captivity.[57] Richard Overy gives the number of 5.7 million Soviet POW and out of those 57% died or were killed which is 3,6 million.[58] The survivors on their return to the USSR were treated as traitors (see Order No. 270).[59]
Japanese POW camps also had high death rates, many were used as labour camp. According to the findings of the Tokyo tribunal, the death rate of occidental prisoners was 27.1%, seven times that of POW's under the Germans and Italians[60] The death rate of Chinese was much larger as, according to the directive ratified on 5 August 1937 by Hirohito, the constraints of international law were removed on those prisoners.[61] Thus, if 37,583 prisoners from the UK, 28,500 from Netherlands and 14,473 from USA were released after the surrender of Japan, the number for the Chinese was only 56.[62]
According to a joint study of historians featuring Zhifen Ju, Mark Peattie, Toru Kubo, and Mitsuyoshi Himeta, more than 10 million Chinese were mobilized by the Japanese army and enslaved by the Kōa-in for slave labor in Manchukuo and north China.[63] According to Mitsuyoshi Himeta, at least 2.7 million died during the Sankō Sakusen implemented in Heipei and Shantung by General Yasuji Okamura.
On February 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, leading to the internment of thousands of Japanese, Italians, German Americans, and some emigrants from Hawaii who fled after the bombing of Pearl Harbor for the duration of the war. 150,000 Japanese-Americans were interned by the U.S. and Canadian governments, as well as nearly 11,000 German and Italian residents of the U.S.
Chemical and bacteriological weapons
Body disposal at Unit 731, the infamous Japanese biological warfare research unit.
Despite the international treaties and a resolution adopted by the League of Nations on 14 May 1938 condemning the use of toxic gas by Japan, the Imperial Japanese Army frequently used chemical weapons. Because of fears of retaliation, however, those weapons were never used against Westerners but only against other Asians judged "inferior" by the imperial propaganda. According to historians Yoshiaki Yoshimi and Seiya Matsuno, the authorization for the use of chemical weapons was given by specific orders (rinsanmei) issued by Hirohito himself. For example, the Emperor authorized the use of toxic gas on 375 separate occasions during the invasion of Wuhan, from August to October 1938.
The biological weapons were experimented on human beings by many units incorporated in the Japanese army, such as the infamous Unit 731, integrated by Imperial decree in the Kwantung army in 1936. Those weapons were mainly used in China and, according to some Japanese veterans, against Mongolians and Soviet soldiers in 1939 during the Nomonhan incident.[64] According to documents found in the Australian national archives in 2004 by Yoshimi and Yuki Tanaka, cyanide gas was tested on Australian and Dutch prisoners in November 1944 in the Kai islands.[65]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_World_War
But who will remember all the resistance fighters and civillians who helped to win the war .
The whole wiki is worth reading . Heres an extract ,
Estimates for the total casualties of the war vary, but most suggest that some 60 million people died in the war, including about 20 million soldiers and 40 million civilians.[1][51][52] Many civilians died as a result of disease, starvation, massacres, genocide. The Soviet Union lost around 27 million people during the war, about half of all World War II casualties.[53] Of the total deaths in World War II, approximately 85% were on the Allied side (mostly Soviet and Chinese) and 15% on the Axis side. One estimate is that 12 million civilians died in Holocaust camps, 1.5 million by bombs, 7 million in Europe from other causes, and 7.5 million in China from other causes.[54] Figures on the amount of total casualties varies to a wide extent because the majority of deaths were not documented.
Corpses in the Auschwitz camp in Poland - the largest of the German Nazi extermination camps.
Mistreated and starved prisoners in the Mauthausen camp, Austria, 1945.
Concentration camps and slave work
The Holocaust was the killing of approximately six million European Jews, as well as another six million others who were deemed "unworthy of life" (including the disabled and mentally ill, Soviet POWs, homosexuals, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and the Roma) as part of a program of deliberate extermination planned and executed by the National Socialist government in Germany led by Adolf Hitler.
In addition to the Nazi concentration camps, the Soviet Gulag, or labor camps, led to the death of citizens of occupied countries such as Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, as well as German prisoners of war (POW) and even Soviet citizens themselves who had been or were thought to be supporters of the Nazis.[55] Sixty percent of Soviet POWs died during the war.[56] Vadim Erlikman puts it at 2.6 million Soviet POWs that died in German Captivity.[57] Richard Overy gives the number of 5.7 million Soviet POW and out of those 57% died or were killed which is 3,6 million.[58] The survivors on their return to the USSR were treated as traitors (see Order No. 270).[59]
Japanese POW camps also had high death rates, many were used as labour camp. According to the findings of the Tokyo tribunal, the death rate of occidental prisoners was 27.1%, seven times that of POW's under the Germans and Italians[60] The death rate of Chinese was much larger as, according to the directive ratified on 5 August 1937 by Hirohito, the constraints of international law were removed on those prisoners.[61] Thus, if 37,583 prisoners from the UK, 28,500 from Netherlands and 14,473 from USA were released after the surrender of Japan, the number for the Chinese was only 56.[62]
According to a joint study of historians featuring Zhifen Ju, Mark Peattie, Toru Kubo, and Mitsuyoshi Himeta, more than 10 million Chinese were mobilized by the Japanese army and enslaved by the Kōa-in for slave labor in Manchukuo and north China.[63] According to Mitsuyoshi Himeta, at least 2.7 million died during the Sankō Sakusen implemented in Heipei and Shantung by General Yasuji Okamura.
On February 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, leading to the internment of thousands of Japanese, Italians, German Americans, and some emigrants from Hawaii who fled after the bombing of Pearl Harbor for the duration of the war. 150,000 Japanese-Americans were interned by the U.S. and Canadian governments, as well as nearly 11,000 German and Italian residents of the U.S.
Chemical and bacteriological weapons
Body disposal at Unit 731, the infamous Japanese biological warfare research unit.
Despite the international treaties and a resolution adopted by the League of Nations on 14 May 1938 condemning the use of toxic gas by Japan, the Imperial Japanese Army frequently used chemical weapons. Because of fears of retaliation, however, those weapons were never used against Westerners but only against other Asians judged "inferior" by the imperial propaganda. According to historians Yoshiaki Yoshimi and Seiya Matsuno, the authorization for the use of chemical weapons was given by specific orders (rinsanmei) issued by Hirohito himself. For example, the Emperor authorized the use of toxic gas on 375 separate occasions during the invasion of Wuhan, from August to October 1938.
The biological weapons were experimented on human beings by many units incorporated in the Japanese army, such as the infamous Unit 731, integrated by Imperial decree in the Kwantung army in 1936. Those weapons were mainly used in China and, according to some Japanese veterans, against Mongolians and Soviet soldiers in 1939 during the Nomonhan incident.[64] According to documents found in the Australian national archives in 2004 by Yoshimi and Yuki Tanaka, cyanide gas was tested on Australian and Dutch prisoners in November 1944 in the Kai islands.[65]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_World_War
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I was in my local Town centre , with my Wife and 2 youngest.. The mood was so sombre...yet the old soldiers were aglow in proudness..... My wife cried to see an old soldier shed tears in a shop doorway..I had a lump in my throat remembering the sacrifices ...that so many gave in the name of King/Queen and country .
They gave their todays
so that we can have our tomorrows.
I`m amongst many of you are so proud to be British...
They gave their todays
so that we can have our tomorrows.
I`m amongst many of you are so proud to be British...