WAV to WMA

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Lonnie

Transferring cassete to computer via BlazeAudio
RipEditBurn. Trying to convert resultant WAV files to
WMA files. Used REB to convert to mp3, then used Windows
Media Bonus Pack for WindowsXP to convert mp3 to WMA, but
getting an error--codec not recognized. How do I change
to a recognizable codec, and where do I find said codec?
Or, should I go an entirely different route?
 
F

Francis

Hello Lonnie,

I would suggest using a different method...it might make things a bit
easier.

I have a free program called "dB Power AMP music converter". It will allow
you to convert between various types of music files including WAV, MP3 and
WMA.

Get the converter here: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm

Get codecs here: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm

If you download the player and install the codecs you need, you will be
doing OK.

Hope this helps,


Francis


| Transferring cassete to computer via BlazeAudio
| RipEditBurn. Trying to convert resultant WAV files to
| WMA files. Used REB to convert to mp3, then used Windows
| Media Bonus Pack for WindowsXP to convert mp3 to WMA, but
| getting an error--codec not recognized. How do I change
| to a recognizable codec, and where do I find said codec?
| Or, should I go an entirely different route?
|
 
P

plectrum

Lonnie said:
Transferring cassete to computer via BlazeAudio
RipEditBurn. Trying to convert resultant WAV files to
WMA files. Used REB to convert to mp3, then used Windows
Media Bonus Pack for WindowsXP to convert mp3 to WMA, but
getting an error--codec not recognized. How do I change
to a recognizable codec, and where do I find said codec?
Or, should I go an entirely different route?

Why do you want to do this ? WMA files and mp3 files are both compressed.
Converting Wave files I agree does save space. Try Goldwave at
http://www.goldwave.com

Cheers,
Jerry
 
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Lonnie

Francis,
Thanks a million for the advice. I've been
racking my brain to figure out what to do about this. I
have downloaded the codec and the converter, but haven't
had a chance to use them yet. I did burn a cd, by
opening a WAV file with Windows Media Player, then
copying it to cd. I then copied the cd to my WMP
library. That converted the WAV file to CDA, then to WMA
as it went into the library. TOO MUCH WORK!!! I hope
the programs I just downloaded work better for me.
Again, thank you.
Now that I have found someone willing to help, I
was wondering if you could explain something else for
me. While experimenting with my files, I created three
folders that each contained one album: ALANIS MORISSETTE-
-JAGGED LITTLE PILL. One folder was in WAV format.
Another was in MP3 format. And the third was in WMA
format. The sizes were 499MB, 7MB, and 46MB,
respectively. That leads me to believe that MP3 format
takes up the least space. If that is so, then why will
portable players typically hold twice as many WMAs as
MP3s? Also, I opened one of the MP3 files with WMP, and
the sound quality was awfull. If I purchase a portable
MP3 player, will the sound be the same?
My ultimate goal is to be able to carry my entire
music library in my vehicle, without the hassle of all
those cds. I also have at least half of my library on
cassette. That is why I downloaded the RipEditBurn, so I
could transfer my cassettes to cd. So far, I have 17.2
GB of music on my computer, and 62 cassettes left to
transfer. Probably half of the 17.2 GB is WAV files, so
by converting them all to MP3, I should save alot of
space on my hard drive. But, once I get all my music on
file, I want to be able to download it to a portable, to
take to my vehicle. From everything I've been reading,
that would be in the WMA format, but that doesn't make
sense to me if MP3 files take up less space. Can you
explain this to me?
I apologize for taking up so much of your time, and
I want to thank you again for helping me out with the
previous advice.

In your debt,
Lonnie Calhoun
 
L

Lonnie

I have questions about music formats. You asked why I
want to do this. I'm hoping you can tell me. I may not
want to do this. You can respond to me at
Lowaca@wmconnect.
 
L

Lonnie

Francis: Many, many thanks for your advice. The program
I downloaded is beautiful! I converted all my files, and
reduced the file space from 17.2GB to 4.95GB. I do,
however, still need some advice on the matter of MP3 vs.
WMA files for portable use. Thank you.
 
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Francis

| Francis,
| Thanks a million for the advice. I've been
| racking my brain to figure out what to do about this. I
| have downloaded the codec and the converter, but haven't
| had a chance to use them yet. I did burn a cd, by
| opening a WAV file with Windows Media Player, then
| copying it to cd. I then copied the cd to my WMP
| library. That converted the WAV file to CDA, then to WMA
| as it went into the library. TOO MUCH WORK!!! I hope
| the programs I just downloaded work better for me.
| Again, thank you.

You're very welcome. Glad to help!

| Now that I have found someone willing to help, I
| was wondering if you could explain something else for
| me. While experimenting with my files, I created three
| folders that each contained one album: ALANIS MORISSETTE-
| -JAGGED LITTLE PILL. One folder was in WAV format.
| Another was in MP3 format. And the third was in WMA
| format. The sizes were 499MB, 7MB, and 46MB,
| respectively. That leads me to believe that MP3 format
| takes up the least space. If that is so, then why will
| portable players typically hold twice as many WMAs as
| MP3s?


WAV is the format used by typical CDs and it is NOT compressed. So, this is
a very impractical way of storing music on your computer.

WMA and MP3 are compressed, but, just different amounts. Usually WMA will
be about 1/10 the original size of the WAV file and have CD quality at 128
kbps. MP3 is about 1/9 (a little bigger than WMA) and will have CD quality
at 192 kbps.

Notice the difference in bit-rates...higher bit-rates are larger files.

The reason for the difference in sizes is the bit rates that they were
converted to. A full album being only 7 MB is totally unrealistic and would
have poor sound quality.

So, basically WMA is the smallest and MP3 is the next smallest form of
compressable music files.

|Also, I opened one of the MP3 files with WMP, and
| the sound quality was awfull.


This is because of the low "bit-rate". When a whole album has been
compressed to 7 MB, there will be a huge loss in sound quality. The WMA
folder size seems right...so it should sound good.

|If I purchase a portable MP3 player, will the sound be the same?

Yes...absolutly. The MP3 will be directly burned on the disc and no sound
quality will be lost. As goes with WMA players (not too common yet, but
there are a few out there....I think Panasonic makes a few).


| My ultimate goal is to be able to carry my entire
| music library in my vehicle, without the hassle of all
| those cds. I also have at least half of my library on
| cassette. That is why I downloaded the RipEditBurn, so I
| could transfer my cassettes to cd. So far, I have 17.2
| GB of music on my computer, and 62 cassettes left to
| transfer. Probably half of the 17.2 GB is WAV files, so
| by converting them all to MP3, I should save alot of
| space on my hard drive. But, once I get all my music on
| file, I want to be able to download it to a portable, to
| take to my vehicle. From everything I've been reading,
| that would be in the WMA format, but that doesn't make
| sense to me if MP3 files take up less space. Can you
| explain this to me?

Again, the reason for the small MP3 folder is the low bit-rate. WMAs are,
in fact, the smallest form of compressed music files. MP3s are also very
small, but not quite as small as WMA. However, MP3s are a more popular form
of compression and more potable music player manufacturers are going to go
with the MP3 standard. You may beable to find a WMA player, but they might
be more expensive, etc...

In the end MP3 is the way to go...it's just the most common and most popular
form of compression.

If you already have your entire music collection on WMA, and the WMAs sound
good, you can use dB Power AMP to convert to MP3. I have used this many
times and there is no noticable loss in sound quality. Just make sure you
have the bit-rate set to 192 kbps when makeing the MP3.

| I apologize for taking up so much of your time, and
| I want to thank you again for helping me out with the
| previous advice.

Glad to help. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask!

--Cheers



Francis
 
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Lonnie

-----Original Message-----
Once again, you have been an immense help. I have had
several responses to my question, and you have been, by
far, the most informative.
I haven't looked too extensively for players yet,
but I have found that Wal Mart carries seven players(RIO
& Nomad Jukebox) that support WMA format ranging from $90
to $240. I was curious as to why MP3 was the most
prominent format if WMA was in fact more compressed, and
therefore more portable. Your last message cleared that
up, though. I have noticed that in the converter program
you suggested, the window that asks which format to
convert to lists MP3 as lame. Any idea why?
Nevermind: I just read the 'How to' section on the
website. I now realize that "Lame" is a Brand name. I
was just reading the word out of context. Anyway, thanks
again.
 
G

Galley

Once again, you have been an immense help. I have had
several responses to my question, and you have been, by
far, the most informative.
I haven't looked too extensively for players yet,
but I have found that Wal Mart carries seven players(RIO
& Nomad Jukebox) that support WMA format ranging from $90
to $240. I was curious as to why MP3 was the most
prominent format if WMA was in fact more compressed, and
therefore more portable. Your last message cleared that
up, though. I have noticed that in the converter program
you suggested, the window that asks which format to
convert to lists MP3 as lame. Any idea why?


DigitalWay makes some nice players. I am looking to get the FL100 for my Ex's
daughter. It also has expansion via SD cards. http://www.mpio.com/
 
F

Francis

Hello Lonnie,

The reason that most manufacturers favour MP3 is because it has been around
longer than WMA. However, if you can find a good player that supports WMA,
there would be nothing wrong with going that route either.

Hope this helps.


Francis


| Once again, you have been an immense help. I have had
| several responses to my question, and you have been, by
| far, the most informative.
| I haven't looked too extensively for players yet,
| but I have found that Wal Mart carries seven players(RIO
| & Nomad Jukebox) that support WMA format ranging from $90
| to $240. I was curious as to why MP3 was the most
| prominent format if WMA was in fact more compressed, and
| therefore more portable. Your last message cleared that
| up, though. I have noticed that in the converter program
| you suggested, the window that asks which format to
| convert to lists MP3 as lame. Any idea why?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| Francis,
| >| Thanks a million for the advice. I've been
| >| racking my brain to figure out what to do about this.
| I
| >| have downloaded the codec and the converter, but
| haven't
| >| had a chance to use them yet. I did burn a cd, by
| >| opening a WAV file with Windows Media Player, then
| >| copying it to cd. I then copied the cd to my WMP
| >| library. That converted the WAV file to CDA, then to
| WMA
| >| as it went into the library. TOO MUCH WORK!!! I hope
| >| the programs I just downloaded work better for me.
| >| Again, thank you.
| >
| >You're very welcome. Glad to help!
| >
| >| Now that I have found someone willing to help, I
| >| was wondering if you could explain something else for
| >| me. While experimenting with my files, I created three
| >| folders that each contained one album: ALANIS
| MORISSETTE-
| >| -JAGGED LITTLE PILL. One folder was in WAV format.
| >| Another was in MP3 format. And the third was in WMA
| >| format. The sizes were 499MB, 7MB, and 46MB,
| >| respectively. That leads me to believe that MP3 format
| >| takes up the least space. If that is so, then why will
| >| portable players typically hold twice as many WMAs as
| >| MP3s?
| >
| >
| >WAV is the format used by typical CDs and it is NOT
| compressed. So, this is
| >a very impractical way of storing music on your computer.
| >
| >WMA and MP3 are compressed, but, just different
| amounts. Usually WMA will
| >be about 1/10 the original size of the WAV file and have
| CD quality at 128
| >kbps. MP3 is about 1/9 (a little bigger than WMA) and
| will have CD quality
| >at 192 kbps.
| >
| >Notice the difference in bit-rates...higher bit-rates
| are larger files.
| >
| >The reason for the difference in sizes is the bit rates
| that they were
| >converted to. A full album being only 7 MB is totally
| unrealistic and would
| >have poor sound quality.
| >
| >So, basically WMA is the smallest and MP3 is the next
| smallest form of
| >compressable music files.
| >
| >|Also, I opened one of the MP3 files with WMP, and
| >| the sound quality was awfull.
| >
| >
| >This is because of the low "bit-rate". When a whole
| album has been
| >compressed to 7 MB, there will be a huge loss in sound
| quality. The WMA
| >folder size seems right...so it should sound good.
| >
| >|If I purchase a portable MP3 player, will the sound be
| the same?
| >
| >Yes...absolutly. The MP3 will be directly burned on the
| disc and no sound
| >quality will be lost. As goes with WMA players (not too
| common yet, but
| >there are a few out there....I think Panasonic makes a
| few).
| >
| >
| >| My ultimate goal is to be able to carry my entire
| >| music library in my vehicle, without the hassle of all
| >| those cds. I also have at least half of my library on
| >| cassette. That is why I downloaded the RipEditBurn,
| so I
| >| could transfer my cassettes to cd. So far, I have 17.2
| >| GB of music on my computer, and 62 cassettes left to
| >| transfer. Probably half of the 17.2 GB is WAV files,
| so
| >| by converting them all to MP3, I should save alot of
| >| space on my hard drive. But, once I get all my music
| on
| >| file, I want to be able to download it to a portable,
| to
| >| take to my vehicle. From everything I've been reading,
| >| that would be in the WMA format, but that doesn't make
| >| sense to me if MP3 files take up less space. Can you
| >| explain this to me?
| >
| >Again, the reason for the small MP3 folder is the low
| bit-rate. WMAs are,
| >in fact, the smallest form of compressed music files.
| MP3s are also very
| >small, but not quite as small as WMA. However, MP3s are
| a more popular form
| >of compression and more potable music player
| manufacturers are going to go
| >with the MP3 standard. You may beable to find a WMA
| player, but they might
| >be more expensive, etc...
| >
| >In the end MP3 is the way to go...it's just the most
| common and most popular
| >form of compression.
| >
| >If you already have your entire music collection on WMA,
| and the WMAs sound
| >good, you can use dB Power AMP to convert to MP3. I
| have used this many
| >times and there is no noticable loss in sound quality.
| Just make sure you
| >have the bit-rate set to 192 kbps when makeing the MP3.
| >
| >| I apologize for taking up so much of your time,
| and
| >| I want to thank you again for helping me out with the
| >| previous advice.
| >
| >Glad to help. If you have any more questions, please
| feel free to ask!
| >
| >--Cheers
| >
| >
| >
| >Francis
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 

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