Water DOES CONDUCT ELECTRICITY

A

alexB

This is all very very true and displays an admirable understanding of
basic physics which is uncommon among our hs graduates who prefer
cooking classes to physics or math but then choose as a career writing
"free" software.

It is too far behind now and I am having trouble answering it. It is very
important that my answer was heard.

That is what DanS posted:
"I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not."

"What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In HS
I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics."

My post/answer, this time not topposted (as an exception):

DanS, the fact that you did not take physics in you HS (and even proud of
it) clearly shows. Anyone who did, however, knows that you do not understand
what you are talking about. The PURE WATER, and I repeat, chemically pure
water is an isolator, with dipole molecules as they are and it does not
conduct electricity. We are not talking about a pure evaporate/condensate or
distilled water in here which requires special equipment. We are talking
about water with impurities which are purposely included in drinking water.
Have you, IDIOT, ever heard of chlorine? Its major part is chloride, an ion,
my dear and it changes the physical conductivity of water. In water it
breaks into Cl and H which is proton. This stuff is in every idiot's stomach
but they of course have no idea about it since they never took physics and
are proud of it.

Once you added chlorine to it the dielectric quality of water is gone,
disappears. The water with impurities becomes a low concentration solute and
all solutes of this sort DO CONDUCT ELECTRICITY. It does not take the
chlorine actually to kill an arrogant idiot. The water in any river or a
pond has many soluble cations and anions and they do conduct electricity.

I do not want you, as*ho*le to be hurt but if another idiot wets their hands
and touches a raw electric wire then the consequences may be tragic. This is
because even the purest water on your hands can kill you. You, idiot, may
think that you have a loophole in here, but in fact you don't. Even if you
wet your hands with the purest water in the world the next thing that is
going to happen: it becomes impure because you drop it on you idiotic hands
that never touched a physics textbook.

Your skin that perhaps was very dry with your epithelial level being a good
isolator because it is carotene instantly becomes a very good conductor and
it is because this purest water in the world that you paid a thousand bucks
a pint to do your idiotic experiment soaks the epithelial cells and they
exude (I do not expect you to know this word, of course, but hopefully you
can catch the meaning), yes they exude ions which are there aplenty. Those
ions include potassium, sodium, chloride, sulphate and others. And if any
idiot does it he is as good as dead. Period. Even if you believe that "water
does not conduct electricity," you, idiot who, throws his weight around
challenging people with education and knowledge will be dead as well.

What else shall I add to this lecture? It was very important, because you
are spreading medieval ignorance, my dear and it may cost people lives. You
are a dangerous man, an involuntary commitment might be an option for you.

The last thing I want to add that the static electricity behaves pretty much
the same way I described, So far I was talking about the power grid, etc.
But coulombs in low quantities do accumulate anywhere it there are favorable
conditions. These conditions are predicated on a very dry environment
because it saps water out of you and when you shuffle or rub your idiotic
feet you become electrified. And I do not mean in a good sense because you
cannot do anything "electrifying" even if you are charged with enough static
to kill and idiot. However, no idiot so far as far as I know has ever been
killed by the static because there is not enough of it, an idiot gets a sort
of an advanced warning and somehow discharges it. The best way to discharge
the static is to spray it with what, take a quiz you, idiot? Water, my dear,
water. Some commercial sources want you to believe that their special,
unique, patented solution does the trick much better than simple tap water.
It is pretty much the same when some characters around here are trying to
convince the unsuspected public that their APIs are better than native Vista
APIs.

Was it you idiot who tried to challenge me on the API internals yesterday?
If not you then another idiot must have been there. Or perhaps you have a
double,

The very last thing, For some it is not an issue or it is even a laughing
matter as another idiot indicated yesterday that he quoted that worn out
adage about an unlikely lightning that may strike his computer. If he goes
to Tampa, Fl the "unlikely" may well become "likely" since Tampa is the
World Capital of Lightning. The highest number of thunderstorms is
registered in Tampa area. I am sure that idiot has never been to Tampa or
even never saw a Tampanian in his life because if he did he would have
realized the healthy respect for mother nature is engraved on their faces.

If he is in Tampa and still do not believe me he should stand next to his
computer in a good thunderstorm and wait. No special equipment is necessary.
In no time and with no warning the event will arrive. He does not need to
check his chip if it is still alive. It is surely as good as dead. All he
need to do is to make sure his butt is not in Saratoga.

For people in Northern latitudes, you idiot, static electricity is a daily
and shall I say rather annoying reality. The cold dry weather saps water out
of you and even if you idiot run to your refrigerator to grab another beer
10 min later you are again high and dry.

The moral of the story is: do not take seriously what an idiot like DanS
tells you about static not being dangerous. It is. I won't kill you but if
you neglect physics which DanS refused to take in his HS because he could
not understand it anyway and I assume his math never went higher than
multiplication of numbers with 3 digital places.

Think about it: static can kill your precious motherboard or a video card or
anything with very delicate semiconductors. Again, DanS thinks I am talking
gibberish. I am sure he has never heard of semiconductors, he thinks
computers are made of clover leaves and potato chips.

They say curiosity kills the cat. No, ignorance kills idiots.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

alexB said:
It is too far behind now and I am having trouble answering it. It is very
important that my answer was heard.

That is what DanS posted:
"I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not."

"What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In HS
I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics."

My post/answer, this time not topposted (as an exception):

DanS, the fact that you did not take physics in you HS (and even proud of
it) clearly shows. Anyone who did, however, knows that you do not
understand
what you are talking about. The PURE WATER, and I repeat, chemically pure
water is an isolator, with dipole molecules as they are and it does not
conduct electricity. We are not talking about a pure evaporate/condensate
or
distilled water in here which requires special equipment. We are talking
about water with impurities which are purposely included in drinking
water.
Have you, IDIOT, ever heard of chlorine? Its major part is chloride, an
ion,
my dear and it changes the physical conductivity of water. In water it
breaks into Cl and H which is proton. This stuff is in every idiot's
stomach
but they of course have no idea about it since they never took physics and
are proud of it.

Once you added chlorine to it the dielectric quality of water is gone,
disappears. The water with impurities becomes a low concentration solute
and
all solutes of this sort DO CONDUCT ELECTRICITY. It does not take the
chlorine actually to kill an arrogant idiot. The water in any river or a
pond has many soluble cations and anions and they do conduct electricity.

I do not want you, as*ho*le to be hurt but if another idiot wets their
hands
and touches a raw electric wire then the consequences may be tragic. This
is
because even the purest water on your hands can kill you. You, idiot, may
think that you have a loophole in here, but in fact you don't. Even if you
wet your hands with the purest water in the world the next thing that is
going to happen: it becomes impure because you drop it on you idiotic
hands
that never touched a physics textbook.

Your skin that perhaps was very dry with your epithelial level being a
good
isolator because it is carotene instantly becomes a very good conductor
and
it is because this purest water in the world that you paid a thousand
bucks
a pint to do your idiotic experiment soaks the epithelial cells and they
exude (I do not expect you to know this word, of course, but hopefully you
can catch the meaning), yes they exude ions which are there aplenty. Those
ions include potassium, sodium, chloride, sulphate and others. And if any
idiot does it he is as good as dead. Period. Even if you believe that
"water
does not conduct electricity," you, idiot who, throws his weight around
challenging people with education and knowledge will be dead as well.

What else shall I add to this lecture? It was very important, because you
are spreading medieval ignorance, my dear and it may cost people lives.
You
are a dangerous man, an involuntary commitment might be an option for you.

The last thing I want to add that the static electricity behaves pretty
much
the same way I described, So far I was talking about the power grid, etc.
But coulombs in low quantities do accumulate anywhere it there are
favorable
conditions. These conditions are predicated on a very dry environment
because it saps water out of you and when you shuffle or rub your idiotic
feet you become electrified. And I do not mean in a good sense because you
cannot do anything "electrifying" even if you are charged with enough
static
to kill and idiot. However, no idiot so far as far as I know has ever been
killed by the static because there is not enough of it, an idiot gets a
sort
of an advanced warning and somehow discharges it. The best way to
discharge
the static is to spray it with what, take a quiz you, idiot? Water, my
dear,
water. Some commercial sources want you to believe that their special,
unique, patented solution does the trick much better than simple tap
water.
It is pretty much the same when some characters around here are trying to
convince the unsuspected public that their APIs are better than native
Vista
APIs.

Was it you idiot who tried to challenge me on the API internals yesterday?
If not you then another idiot must have been there. Or perhaps you have a
double,

The very last thing, For some it is not an issue or it is even a laughing
matter as another idiot indicated yesterday that he quoted that worn out
adage about an unlikely lightning that may strike his computer. If he goes
to Tampa, Fl the "unlikely" may well become "likely" since Tampa is the
World Capital of Lightning. The highest number of thunderstorms is
registered in Tampa area. I am sure that idiot has never been to Tampa or
even never saw a Tampanian in his life because if he did he would have
realized the healthy respect for mother nature is engraved on their faces.

If he is in Tampa and still do not believe me he should stand next to his
computer in a good thunderstorm and wait. No special equipment is
necessary.
In no time and with no warning the event will arrive. He does not need to
check his chip if it is still alive. It is surely as good as dead. All he
need to do is to make sure his butt is not in Saratoga.

For people in Northern latitudes, you idiot, static electricity is a daily
and shall I say rather annoying reality. The cold dry weather saps water
out
of you and even if you idiot run to your refrigerator to grab another beer
10 min later you are again high and dry.

The moral of the story is: do not take seriously what an idiot like DanS
tells you about static not being dangerous. It is. I won't kill you but if
you neglect physics which DanS refused to take in his HS because he could
not understand it anyway and I assume his math never went higher than
multiplication of numbers with 3 digital places.

Think about it: static can kill your precious motherboard or a video card
or
anything with very delicate semiconductors. Again, DanS thinks I am
talking
gibberish. I am sure he has never heard of semiconductors, he thinks
computers are made of clover leaves and potato chips.

They say curiosity kills the cat. No, ignorance kills idiots.


Alex

Could we have the next slide, please?
 
J

Jon

Take a shower and you'll cool down - it will wash away some of those excess
ions / electrons.
 
A

alexB

I appreciate the advice but I do it daily anyway. That's why I've never
killed a chip. They do not like unwashed bodies.
 
S

Spanky deMonkey

Just FYI. Maybe you should remove Vista from your computer and install
Ubuntu. Just FYI
 
A

AlexB

Thanks for the offer. I've heard Ubuntu is gaining market at tremendous
rate. 10,000,000 downloads every minute via a dial-up from Africa. Why do
you need another user?

That incredible number I presume is because your server cannot upload more
than 256 bytes per dial-up?
 
D

DanS

It is too far behind now and I am having trouble answering it. It is
very important that my answer was heard.

Wrong. It is very important to YOU your answer be heard. Noone else cares.

But first, might I say you wrote a very lengthy reply to my one single
comment about water and electricity, and then added more subjects about
static, and lightening, of which I NEVER commented on, AT ALL, and then
claim to that what I 'said' about them, which was NOTHING, was dangerous to
humans and PCs.

How can you expect anyone to have any faith in what you say, when you plain
outright LIE and make up things about other people ? (And that's on top of
your lackluster track record here.)

Here's a little bit more about me. I've been in the electronics biz since
the early 80's. To be more precise, at several wireless companies. That was
except for 2 years at a machine design facitily designing automated
assembly equipment, mostly for the automotive industry. (Next you'll be
telling me I don't know anything about pneumatics/hydraulics or mechanical
principles I guess.)

I'd give you a link to where I work now, but you would call that out as
spam. I've held every role from simple electronic assembly to Lead Field
Tech during several large state-wide private wireless network deployments,
including working at tower sites. I know all about static electricity, and
electricity in general, and believe me I know about lightening. I've fixed
enough gear that had been hit by lightening to last me a life time. I was
200 feet away from a tower site when I saw one tower get hit with
lightening in the rearview mirror. Five minutes before that I was inside
the building. I heard the thunder, took a quick look outside, and said 'oh
sh*t'. I've spent more than my share of time static-proofing assembly/test
rooms. So yes, I know what I'm talking about.

I have no fear of electricity, since I understand it. Of course, I still
always turn off the breaker when doing anything on a circuit.

Here's the entire contents of my post:
---------------------------------------------------------------
[You]
This is all very very true and displays an admirable understanding of
basic physics which is uncommon among our hs graduates who prefer
cooking classes to physics or math but then choose as a career writing
"free" software.

I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not.

What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In HS
I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That is what DanS posted:
"I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not."

"What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In
HS I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics."

My post/answer, this time not topposted (as an exception):

DanS, the fact that you did not take physics in you HS (and even proud
of it) clearly shows. Anyone who did, however, knows that you do not

<SNIPPED>

Water, in and by itself does not conduct electricity. Period. That is
EXACTLY what I said. You agreed. So there is nothing wrong with my
statement.

Water alone does not conduct electricity. It is the impurities in the water
that conduct electricity.

I learned this in week 2 of Electronics I in 9th grade.
What else shall I add to this lecture? It was very important, because
you are spreading medieval ignorance, my dear and it may cost people
lives. You are a dangerous man, an involuntary commitment might be an
option for you.

Dangerous ? Hardly.

simple tap water. It is pretty much the same when some characters
around here are trying to convince the unsuspected public that their
APIs are better than native Vista APIs.

There you go with the stupid API's thing again. They are programs,
utilities, applications, but NOT API's.
Was it you idiot who tried to challenge me on the API internals
yesterday? If not you then another idiot must have been there. Or
perhaps you have a double,

What did I say about your reading retention problem ?
The very last thing, For some it is not an issue or it is even a
laughing matter as another idiot indicated yesterday that he quoted
that worn out adage about an unlikely lightning that may strike his
computer. If he goes to Tampa, Fl the "unlikely" may well become
"likely" since Tampa is the World Capital of Lightning. The highest
number of thunderstorms is registered in Tampa area. I am sure that
idiot has never been to Tampa or even never saw a Tampanian in his
life because if he did he would have realized the healthy respect for
mother nature is engraved on their faces.

Sorry bonehead, making assumptions again. I've been to Tampa. I went jet-
skiing in the bay with the stingrays even.
If he is in Tampa and still do not believe me he should stand next to
his computer in a good thunderstorm and wait. No special equipment is
necessary. In no time and with no warning the event will arrive. He
does not need to check his chip if it is still alive. It is surely as
good as dead. All he need to do is to make sure his butt is not in
Saratoga.

For people in Northern latitudes, you idiot, static electricity is a
daily and shall I say rather annoying reality. The cold dry weather
saps water out of you and even if you idiot run to your refrigerator
to grab another beer 10 min later you are again high and dry.

The moral of the story is: do not take seriously what an idiot like
DanS tells you about static not being dangerous.

Which I NEVER said. I NEVER mentioned static electricity at all.
It is. I won't kill
you but if you neglect physics which DanS refused to take in his HS
because he could not understand it anyway and I assume his math never
went higher than multiplication of numbers with 3 digital places.

Assumptions again. And dumb one's at that.
Think about it: static can kill your precious motherboard or a video
card or anything with very delicate semiconductors. Again, DanS thinks
I am talking gibberish. I am sure he has never heard of
semiconductors, he thinks computers are made of clover leaves and
potato chips.

They say curiosity kills the cat. No, ignorance kills idiots.

I'd rather be dead than you.
 
F

forty-nine

Wrong. It is very important to YOU your answer be heard. Noone else
cares.

But first, might I say you wrote a very lengthy reply to my one single
comment about water and electricity, and then added more subjects about
static, and lightening, of which I NEVER commented on, AT ALL, and then
claim to that what I 'said' about them, which was NOTHING, was dangerous
to
humans and PCs.

How can you expect anyone to have any faith in what you say, when you
plain
outright LIE and make up things about other people ? (And that's on top
of
your lackluster track record here.)

Here's a little bit more about me. I've been in the electronics biz since
the early 80's. To be more precise, at several wireless companies. That
was
except for 2 years at a machine design facitily designing automated
assembly equipment, mostly for the automotive industry. (Next you'll be
telling me I don't know anything about pneumatics/hydraulics or
mechanical
principles I guess.)

I'd give you a link to where I work now, but you would call that out as
spam. I've held every role from simple electronic assembly to Lead Field
Tech during several large state-wide private wireless network
deployments,
including working at tower sites. I know all about static electricity,
and
electricity in general, and believe me I know about lightening. I've
fixed
enough gear that had been hit by lightening to last me a life time. I was
200 feet away from a tower site when I saw one tower get hit with
lightening in the rearview mirror. Five minutes before that I was inside
the building. I heard the thunder, took a quick look outside, and said
'oh
sh*t'. I've spent more than my share of time static-proofing
assembly/test
rooms. So yes, I know what I'm talking about.

I have no fear of electricity, since I understand it. Of course, I still
always turn off the breaker when doing anything on a circuit.
Water, in and by itself does not conduct electricity. Period. That is
EXACTLY what I said. You agreed. So there is nothing wrong with my
statement.

Water alone does not conduct electricity. It is the impurities in the
water
that conduct electricity.

I learned this in week 2 of Electronics I in 9th grade.


Dangerous ? Hardly.


There you go with the stupid API's thing again. They are programs,
utilities, applications, but NOT API's.


What did I say about your reading retention problem ?


Sorry bonehead, making assumptions again. I've been to Tampa. I went jet-
skiing in the bay with the stingrays even.


Which I NEVER said. I NEVER mentioned static electricity at all.


Assumptions again. And dumb one's at that.


I'd rather be dead than you.


LMOA...All this stemmed from a poster who wanted to clean a PCI slot.
This idiot is Adam Albright...I guarentee
 
D

DanS

LMOA...All this stemmed from a poster who wanted to clean a PCI slot.
This idiot is Adam Albright...I guarentee

I doubt this is AA.

AA, while very combative with a few indivuduals here, did not come across
like this guy (?). He may have had an ego, but the posting style is
completely wrong to be AA.

Funny thing, I didn't even notice the absence of AA until someone mentioned
him the other day.

phalyxB will be the same. When he's gone, noone will even notice. Same with
me and a lot of people around here.

At least I *know* I'm a disposable part of this group.
 
F

forty-nine

DanS said:
I doubt this is AA.

AA, while very combative with a few indivuduals here, did not come across
like this guy (?). He may have had an ego, but the posting style is
completely wrong to be AA.

Funny thing, I didn't even notice the absence of AA until someone
mentioned
him the other day.

phalyxB will be the same. When he's gone, noone will even notice. Same
with
me and a lot of people around here.

At least I *know* I'm a disposable part of this group.


Yeah...Probably not AA.
It's his sister. : )
 
N

NoStop

alexB said:
I appreciate the advice but I do it daily anyway. That's why I've never
killed a chip. They do not like unwashed bodies.
Take your buddy Frankie Boy in the bath with you. His mouth needs washing
out with soap. And make sure that he doesn't remove that football helmut
his mom puts on him each morning. A slippery bathtub is a very dangerous
place and Frankie Boy cannot afford to lose anymore brain cells.

Cheers.

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

The Rolling Stones Love Vista:

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/
 
F

Frank

NoStop said:
alexB wrote:



Take your buddy Frankie Boy in the bath with you. His mouth needs washing
out with soap. And make sure that he doesn't remove that football helmut
his mom puts on him each morning. A slippery bathtub is a very dangerous
place and Frankie Boy cannot afford to lose anymore brain cells.

Cheers.
hehehe...hey bozo...what does RS have you do with your little rubber
duckie while you two are in the bath together...LOL!
On second thought...we don't want to know...hahaha!
Stupid linux loser.
Frank
 
A

AlexB

Well, it looks you do have a "background." Then why do you say stupid
things all the time.

Also I never said that YOU made a comment about lightning. I referred to a
different guy who stuck his neck out. I just aggregated all the comments of
that day into a single post. Why cannot you read text with some degree of
attention. Perhaps the lack of attention nearly got you in trouble with
lightning on that rainy day when the tower was struck.

Anyhow, it is shocking, actually to hear anything like what you said, in
effect dismissing what I suggested could be done to prevent semiconductor
damage from a person like you. You dismissed it out of hand. We do not do
water purification around here. And as I said even the purest of water if
dropped on your hands will do basically the same: it may either kill you if
you are touching a wire under voltage in a power grid or will discharge the
static electricity.

Thus your bringing up the issue of an "abstract" super pure water not
conducting is just a baloney. And of course people should never do it and
you clearly did not mean pure water when you mentioned it.

I understand your desire to wiggle your way out of embarrassment. Go ahead,
you can do it, I need no trophy on the walls of my dining room. You can keep
or head on. The matter was different. And you still cannot understand it.

If you do not have a very firm understanding of what you are saying, don't
challenge other people. You can still say stupid things, I is perfectly
fine. I have done it many times in my life and learned a lesson. It is a way
to learn when you say something "stupid." What you should have done is to
hedge your bet. That is my point.

With that confrontation with the "expert" on API I clearly saw that the guy
just pulled his knowledge out of Wikipedia. He left a clear signature of
what he did. And I know the stuff well since I have written and debugged
quite a few APIs myself for my own purposes since I do not sell anything.
And I know everything about dll. But I drew the line when it came to OCX or
ActiveX because I have no idea how they look inside. I have never done them,
I will never do them because I do not need them and I will never talk about
them although I do know a little.


DanS said:
It is too far behind now and I am having trouble answering it. It is
very important that my answer was heard.

Wrong. It is very important to YOU your answer be heard. Noone else cares.

But first, might I say you wrote a very lengthy reply to my one single
comment about water and electricity, and then added more subjects about
static, and lightening, of which I NEVER commented on, AT ALL, and then
claim to that what I 'said' about them, which was NOTHING, was dangerous
to
humans and PCs.

How can you expect anyone to have any faith in what you say, when you
plain
outright LIE and make up things about other people ? (And that's on top of
your lackluster track record here.)

Here's a little bit more about me. I've been in the electronics biz since
the early 80's. To be more precise, at several wireless companies. That
was
except for 2 years at a machine design facitily designing automated
assembly equipment, mostly for the automotive industry. (Next you'll be
telling me I don't know anything about pneumatics/hydraulics or mechanical
principles I guess.)

I'd give you a link to where I work now, but you would call that out as
spam. I've held every role from simple electronic assembly to Lead Field
Tech during several large state-wide private wireless network deployments,
including working at tower sites. I know all about static electricity, and
electricity in general, and believe me I know about lightening. I've fixed
enough gear that had been hit by lightening to last me a life time. I was
200 feet away from a tower site when I saw one tower get hit with
lightening in the rearview mirror. Five minutes before that I was inside
the building. I heard the thunder, took a quick look outside, and said 'oh
sh*t'. I've spent more than my share of time static-proofing assembly/test
rooms. So yes, I know what I'm talking about.

I have no fear of electricity, since I understand it. Of course, I still
always turn off the breaker when doing anything on a circuit.

Here's the entire contents of my post:
---------------------------------------------------------------
[You]
This is all very very true and displays an admirable understanding of
basic physics which is uncommon among our hs graduates who prefer
cooking classes to physics or math but then choose as a career writing
"free" software.

I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not.

What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In HS
I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That is what DanS posted:
"I'm sure you still believe that water itself conducts electricity. It
does not."

"What was said below is basic electricity, not necessarily physics. In
HS I majored in math and electronics, but never touched physics."

My post/answer, this time not topposted (as an exception):

DanS, the fact that you did not take physics in you HS (and even proud
of it) clearly shows. Anyone who did, however, knows that you do not

<SNIPPED>

Water, in and by itself does not conduct electricity. Period. That is
EXACTLY what I said. You agreed. So there is nothing wrong with my
statement.

Water alone does not conduct electricity. It is the impurities in the
water
that conduct electricity.

I learned this in week 2 of Electronics I in 9th grade.
What else shall I add to this lecture? It was very important, because
you are spreading medieval ignorance, my dear and it may cost people
lives. You are a dangerous man, an involuntary commitment might be an
option for you.

Dangerous ? Hardly.

simple tap water. It is pretty much the same when some characters
around here are trying to convince the unsuspected public that their
APIs are better than native Vista APIs.

There you go with the stupid API's thing again. They are programs,
utilities, applications, but NOT API's.
Was it you idiot who tried to challenge me on the API internals
yesterday? If not you then another idiot must have been there. Or
perhaps you have a double,

What did I say about your reading retention problem ?
The very last thing, For some it is not an issue or it is even a
laughing matter as another idiot indicated yesterday that he quoted
that worn out adage about an unlikely lightning that may strike his
computer. If he goes to Tampa, Fl the "unlikely" may well become
"likely" since Tampa is the World Capital of Lightning. The highest
number of thunderstorms is registered in Tampa area. I am sure that
idiot has never been to Tampa or even never saw a Tampanian in his
life because if he did he would have realized the healthy respect for
mother nature is engraved on their faces.

Sorry bonehead, making assumptions again. I've been to Tampa. I went jet-
skiing in the bay with the stingrays even.
If he is in Tampa and still do not believe me he should stand next to
his computer in a good thunderstorm and wait. No special equipment is
necessary. In no time and with no warning the event will arrive. He
does not need to check his chip if it is still alive. It is surely as
good as dead. All he need to do is to make sure his butt is not in
Saratoga.

For people in Northern latitudes, you idiot, static electricity is a
daily and shall I say rather annoying reality. The cold dry weather
saps water out of you and even if you idiot run to your refrigerator
to grab another beer 10 min later you are again high and dry.

The moral of the story is: do not take seriously what an idiot like
DanS tells you about static not being dangerous.

Which I NEVER said. I NEVER mentioned static electricity at all.
It is. I won't kill
you but if you neglect physics which DanS refused to take in his HS
because he could not understand it anyway and I assume his math never
went higher than multiplication of numbers with 3 digital places.

Assumptions again. And dumb one's at that.
Think about it: static can kill your precious motherboard or a video
card or anything with very delicate semiconductors. Again, DanS thinks
I am talking gibberish. I am sure he has never heard of
semiconductors, he thinks computers are made of clover leaves and
potato chips.

They say curiosity kills the cat. No, ignorance kills idiots.

I'd rather be dead than you.
 
R

RA

AlexB said:
Well, it looks you do have a "background." Then why do you say stupid
things all the time.

Also I never said that YOU made a comment about lightning. I referred
to a different guy who stuck his neck out. I just aggregated all the
comments of that day into a single post. Why cannot you read text
with some degree of attention. Perhaps the lack of attention nearly
got you in trouble with lightning on that rainy day when the tower
was struck.
Anyhow, it is shocking, actually to hear anything like what you said,
in effect dismissing what I suggested could be done to prevent
semiconductor damage from a person like you. You dismissed it out of
hand. We do not do water purification around here. And as I said even
the purest of water if dropped on your hands will do basically the
same: it may either kill you if you are touching a wire under voltage
in a power grid or will discharge the static electricity.

Thus your bringing up the issue of an "abstract" super pure water not
conducting is just a baloney. And of course people should never do it
and you clearly did not mean pure water when you mentioned it.

I understand your desire to wiggle your way out of embarrassment. Go
ahead, you can do it, I need no trophy on the walls of my dining
room. You can keep or head on. The matter was different. And you
still cannot understand it.
If you do not have a very firm understanding of what you are saying,
don't challenge other people. You can still say stupid things, I is
perfectly fine. I have done it many times in my life and learned a
lesson. It is a way to learn when you say something "stupid." What
you should have done is to hedge your bet. That is my point.

With that confrontation with the "expert" on API I clearly saw that
the guy just pulled his knowledge out of Wikipedia. He left a clear
signature of what he did. And I know the stuff well since I have
written and debugged quite a few APIs myself for my own purposes
since I do not sell anything. And I know everything about dll. But I
drew the line when it came to OCX or ActiveX because I have no idea
how they look inside. I have never done them, I will never do them
because I do not need them and I will never talk about them although
I do know a little.


How long are you going to continue to embarrass yourself in this group?
 
D

DanS

Thus your bringing up the issue of an "abstract" super pure water not
conducting is just a baloney. And of course people should never do it
and you clearly did not mean pure water when you mentioned it.

Not 'super-pure water. Distilled water you can buy at any store will do.

That is why I said 'water itself', meaning water alone, H2O.
I understand your desire to wiggle your way out of embarrassment. Go
ahead, you can do it, I need no trophy on the walls of my dining room.
You can keep or head on. The matter was different. And you still
cannot understand it.

If you do not have a very firm understanding of what you are saying,
don't challenge other people.

Oh, but I do.
You can still say stupid things, I is
perfectly fine. I have done it many times in my life and learned a
lesson. It is a way to learn when you say something "stupid." What you
should have done is to hedge your bet. That is my point.

I guess that means you are learning A LOT here. Probably about 1 lesson
per thread...minimum.

With that confrontation with the "expert" on API I clearly saw that
the guy just pulled his knowledge out of Wikipedia. He left a clear
signature of what he did.

Again, that was me...wikipedia links are meant for you to read and
realize that you are wrong.
And I know the stuff well since I have
written and debugged quite a few APIs myself for my own purposes since
I do not sell anything. And I know everything about dll. But I drew
the line when it came to OCX or ActiveX because I have no idea how
they look inside.

Apparently you don't know that much, as an OCX IS an ActiveX control. A
dll can be an ActiveX dll as well, or just a 'standard' dll.
I have never done them, I will never do them because
I do not need them and I will never talk about them although I do know
a little.

You appear to know little about what you do talk about also. It's either
that, or like someone else said, maybe English is not your native
language......but I'm leaning towards the former.
 
A

alexB

You are still trying to be an IDIOT. I offered you a graceful way out. You
are a stubborn fool.

As a person with an alleged experience in high power tools and high-voltage
technology you must have heard of cases of people who urinated on or even in
close proximity to power lines. You must know that people get killed even by
walking on wet ground near them.

And after all this embarrassment, you a scummy fool still continue to argue
that H2O will be harmless and it does not conduct electricity.

Go away, you IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT.

I do not want to talk to you anymore. Take medications.
 
B

Bill Yanaire

alexB said:
You are still trying to be an IDIOT. I offered you a graceful way out. You
are a stubborn fool.

As a person with an alleged experience in high power tools and
high-voltage technology you must have heard of cases of people who
urinated on or even in close proximity to power lines. You must know that
people get killed even by walking on wet ground near them.

And after all this embarrassment, you a scummy fool still continue to
argue that H2O will be harmless and it does not conduct electricity.

Go away, you IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT.

I do not want to talk to you anymore. Take medications.

Look who is talking. The vista.group retard. Pretty damn funny.
 
D

DanS

You are still trying to be an IDIOT. I offered you a graceful way out.
You are a stubborn fool.

As a person with an alleged experience in high power tools and
high-voltage technology you must have heard of cases of people who
urinated on or even in close proximity to power lines. You must know
that people get killed even by walking on wet ground near them.

Here you go again.....

I grew up living about 100 feet from high voltage overhead power lines, the
second house away. The run is 4 rows of high towers running parallel to
each other.

I was constantly walking under them, in all kinds of weather. In the
winter, under the power lines would freeze and we would play ice hockey
there from morning till night. Not to mention all the times I climbed them
up to the barbed wire.

Sure, they buzz when there's moisture in the air, but that's all. The house
next door, the one directly next to them, was about 25 ft away from the
baseline of the towers. Don't you think there would be a law against
building too close if that was really the case ?

Here, go to maps.google.com and punch in this address:

416 cayuga creek road, cheektowaga, ny, 14227

Close the 'hit' box, then click on 'Satellite' to see the real pictures.
Zoom in all the way and you can see the 4 rows of towers right at the edge
of the street on the south side of the street. These towers are less than
25 feet from property lines, and according to the scale, about 50 feet from
the NE corner of the house on the south side of the road. I was across the
street, on the North side, second house in.

As for urinating.....this is an urban myth. Didn't you see the Mythbusters
episode where they tested urinating on the 'third rail' of a subway track ?
That myth was busted. The further the urine travel, the more it breaks up
and is not a consistant stream, but drops of urine with spaces between
them.
And after all this embarrassment, you a scummy fool still continue to
argue that H2O will be harmless and it does not conduct electricity.

There's no embarrassment on my part. My would I be embarrassed ?

And I suppose that dropping a lit cigarette in a puddle of gasoline will
ignite that as well. Also proven false.
Go away, you IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT.

I do not want to talk to you anymore. Take medications.

You seem to be the one that needs medication.
 

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