W2K 'send to' menu doesn't allow additional apps added.

[John]

Hello all,

I posted this to a new W2K user group but it looks dead, so ...

I skipped over W2K and went directly from NT4 to XP and so find myself a
newbie on W2K which I now need to use at work (a W2K Pro work station).
I am having difficulty adding items to the 'send to' context menu. I
have copied the apps' shortcuts that I want to send something to into
*all* of the different Document & Settings' send to folders (yea I was
desperate) yet nothing new ever shows up when right clicking and
selecting 'send to' in W2K? This was never a problem in NT4 and
certainly isn't currently in XP, both of which I have used for quite
some time. Is there some sort of registry key limiting how many or what
kind of items are displayed on the send to menu in W2K or am I just
overlooking something simple?

Thanks for any input,

John

 

[Gary Smith]

So far as I know, there is absolutely no difference Win 2K and the other
two versions when it comes to the SendTo function. The only thing that
occurs to me is that perhaps the users don't have the necessary
persmission to access those shortcuts. If the shortcuts have the hidden
attribute they won't show up in the menu, but I expect that you've already
checked that.

I skipped over W2K and went directly from NT4 to XP and so find myself a
newbie on W2K which I now need to use at work (a W2K Pro work station).
I am having difficulty adding items to the 'send to' context menu. I
have copied the apps' shortcuts that I want to send something to into
*all* of the different Document & Settings' send to folders (yea I was
desperate) yet nothing new ever shows up when right clicking and
selecting 'send to' in W2K? This was never a problem in NT4 and
certainly isn't currently in XP, both of which I have used for quite
some time. Is there some sort of registry key limiting how many or what
kind of items are displayed on the send to menu in W2K or am I just
overlooking something simple?

 

[John]

So far as I know, there is absolutely no difference Win 2K and the other
two versions when it comes to the SendTo function. The only thing that
occurs to me is that perhaps the users don't have the necessary
persmission to access those shortcuts. If the shortcuts have the hidden
attribute they won't show up in the menu, but I expect that you've already
checked that.

Well I'm the only user and I was using the admin account for the task. I
saw that others had tried the same thing in the 'all users send to
folder' copying various shortcuts like MS Word for example that doesn't
show up either. There are five 'send to' short cuts that do show and do
work, no doubt what the DELL install puts there by default. That is why
I asked about a registry key that limits what type or the number of
items that can be used. One thing that I did notice is that the send to
shortcuts that do work show up as 0 bytes in Windows Explorer where as
all the shortcuts that were added and don't work show as 1 byte. Now
that seems really odd right there, 0 bytes ??

This PC has active desk top turned on and I am wondering if that has
anything to do with the problem.

The comp's OS has a restore partition and no CDs. You would think that
people purchasing work stations for a business would have the sense to
purchase a full W2K install CD along with the comp to get the real deal
rather than DELL's bungled idea of an install.

I am having other issues with this comp as well. One really annoying
thing is that when a document is printed the printer dialog window
doesn't pop to the top of the stack of windows but instead buries itself
under *all* the other windows. So they need minimized just to click the
OK button. I doubt that its a printer driver issue as it doesn't matter
which printer on the network is used, 10 printers that I have access to
and there are only 2 pairs of the same model - hehe. Having to tell
Windows twice to print something is annoying enough but when the second
prompt hides itself ... grrr ...

Thanks,
John

 

[Sid Knee]

Well I'm the only user and I was using the admin account for the task. I
saw that others had tried the same thing in the 'all users send to
folder' copying various shortcuts like MS Word for example that doesn't
show up either. There are five 'send to' short cuts that do show and do
work, no doubt what the DELL install puts there by default. That is why
I asked about a registry key that limits what type or the number of
items that can be used. One thing that I did notice is that the send to
shortcuts that do work show up as 0 bytes in Windows Explorer where as
all the shortcuts that were added and don't work show as 1 byte. Now
that seems really odd right there, 0 bytes ??

Fwiw, I just tried this, dragging a shortcut into the regular <Send To>
folder under administrator (I'm logged on as administrator) and it shows
up on the right click as expected.

The shortcut shows as 1 byte. The other items show as 0 bytes except the
floppy which is 1 byte.

I'm using Windows Classic desktop.

..... like I say, fwiw. It does show that what you are doing is correct
in principle.

 

[Gary Smith]

So far as I know, there is absolutely no difference Win 2K and the other
two versions when it comes to the SendTo function. The only thing that
occurs to me is that perhaps the users don't have the necessary
persmission to access those shortcuts. If the shortcuts have the hidden
attribute they won't show up in the menu, but I expect that you've already
checked that.

[snip]

Well I'm the only user and I was using the admin account for the task. I
saw that others had tried the same thing in the 'all users send to
folder' copying various shortcuts like MS Word for example that doesn't
show up either. There are five 'send to' short cuts that do show and do
work, no doubt what the DELL install puts there by default. That is why
I asked about a registry key that limits what type or the number of
items that can be used. One thing that I did notice is that the send to
shortcuts that do work show up as 0 bytes in Windows Explorer where as
all the shortcuts that were added and don't work show as 1 byte. Now
that seems really odd right there, 0 bytes ??

I checked my system, and there was no SendTo folder in the All Users'
profile. Is that where you're trying to put shortcuts? I created a
SendTo folder under All Users and put a couple of ordinary shortcuts in
there, and sure enough, they do not show up in the context menu. If I put
the same shortcuts in SendTo under my profile, they show up just fine. It
appears that unike Start Menu, the All Users' SendTo isn't merged with the
individual user's.

I believe that the 0-byte entries are related to special registry entries
that create a sort of virtual shortcut. Mine were al created by
installers of some sort. The ones I created myself all have the extension
..lnk (which you can't see in Explorer) and are list as 1 or 2K in size.

This PC has active desk top turned on and I am wondering if that has
anything to do with the problem.

That would be a whole 'nother ball game. I've never used Active Directory
and have no expereince with it. It might be interesting to turn it off
temporarily to see what happens.

The comp's OS has a restore partition and no CDs. You would think that
people purchasing work stations for a business would have the sense to
purchase a full W2K install CD along with the comp to get the real deal
rather than DELL's bungled idea of an install.

The clueless are everywhere.

I am having other issues with this comp as well. One really annoying
thing is that when a document is printed the printer dialog window
doesn't pop to the top of the stack of windows but instead buries itself
under *all* the other windows. So they need minimized just to click the
OK button. I doubt that its a printer driver issue as it doesn't matter
which printer on the network is used, 10 printers that I have access to
and there are only 2 pairs of the same model - hehe. Having to tell
Windows twice to print something is annoying enough but when the second
prompt hides itself ... grrr ...

That sounds really painful. I find myself printing a lot more stuff every
since my work machine was "upgraded" because it's just to uncomfortable to
read very much on the crappy Dell monitors they bought.

 

[John]

Hello all,

I posted this to a new W2K user group but it looks dead, so ...

I skipped over W2K and went directly from NT4 to XP and so find myself a
newbie on W2K which I now need to use at work (a W2K Pro work station).
I am having difficulty adding items to the 'send to' context menu. I
have copied the apps' shortcuts that I want to send something to into
*all* of the different Document & Settings' send to folders (yea I was
desperate) yet nothing new ever shows up when right clicking and
selecting 'send to' in W2K? This was never a problem in NT4 and
certainly isn't currently in XP, both of which I have used for quite
some time. Is there some sort of registry key limiting how many or what
kind of items are displayed on the send to menu in W2K or am I just
overlooking something simple?

Thanks for any input,

John

I solved the 'send to' problem and found that the install on that comp
is unusual to say the least. I was using an administrator level account
to try and add items to my own and (in desperation) to literally anyones
'send to' folder and it didn't work. So I logged in as 'the'
administrator account and that did work with some caveats. The 'all
users' category flat out doesn't work for anyone, send to, start menu,
etc., nada. I had to go through the procedure of adding items on each
individual account on the comp instead. I also found that 'the' admin
account can't change the account type or password on the user account
with administrative privileges that I had been using. All access in that
department is grayed out - strange to say the least! I was going to
remove that user account and create a new lower level one for every day
use but now that is a problem as well.

It may be that I am just used to the ease of administrating XP and not
seeing the forest for the trees so I'll keep plugging along and see what
happens. The biggest problem is I am so busy at work I don't have the
time to explore possibilities and must tread carefully as I need the
comp all day every day.

Thank you all for your input,
John

 

[John]

So far as I know, there is absolutely no difference Win 2K and the other
two versions when it comes to the SendTo function. The only thing that
occurs to me is that perhaps the users don't have the necessary
persmission to access those shortcuts. If the shortcuts have the hidden
attribute they won't show up in the menu, but I expect that you've already
checked that.

[snip]

Well I'm the only user and I was using the admin account for the task. I
saw that others had tried the same thing in the 'all users send to
folder' copying various shortcuts like MS Word for example that doesn't
show up either. There are five 'send to' short cuts that do show and do
work, no doubt what the DELL install puts there by default. That is why
I asked about a registry key that limits what type or the number of
items that can be used. One thing that I did notice is that the send to
shortcuts that do work show up as 0 bytes in Windows Explorer where as
all the shortcuts that were added and don't work show as 1 byte. Now
that seems really odd right there, 0 bytes ??

I checked my system, and there was no SendTo folder in the All Users'
profile. Is that where you're trying to put shortcuts? I created a
SendTo folder under All Users and put a couple of ordinary shortcuts in
there, and sure enough, they do not show up in the context menu. If I put
the same shortcuts in SendTo under my profile, they show up just fine. It
appears that unike Start Menu, the All Users' SendTo isn't merged with the
individual user's.

I believe that the 0-byte entries are related to special registry entries
that create a sort of virtual shortcut. Mine were al created by
installers of some sort. The ones I created myself all have the extension
.lnk (which you can't see in Explorer) and are list as 1 or 2K in size.

This PC has active desk top turned on and I am wondering if that has
anything to do with the problem.

That would be a whole 'nother ball game. I've never used Active Directory
and have no expereince with it. It might be interesting to turn it off
temporarily to see what happens.

The comp's OS has a restore partition and no CDs. You would think that
people purchasing work stations for a business would have the sense to
purchase a full W2K install CD along with the comp to get the real deal
rather than DELL's bungled idea of an install.

The clueless are everywhere.

I am having other issues with this comp as well. One really annoying
thing is that when a document is printed the printer dialog window
doesn't pop to the top of the stack of windows but instead buries itself
under *all* the other windows. So they need minimized just to click the
OK button. I doubt that its a printer driver issue as it doesn't matter
which printer on the network is used, 10 printers that I have access to
and there are only 2 pairs of the same model - hehe. Having to tell
Windows twice to print something is annoying enough but when the second
prompt hides itself ... grrr ...

That sounds really painful. I find myself printing a lot more stuff every
since my work machine was "upgraded" because it's just to uncomfortable to
read very much on the crappy Dell monitors they bought.

Yea I agree so I kept my 7 year old 23" CRT and left the Dell crap for
whoever wanted it. If you have never used a monitor that large you have
no idea what you are missing. I do CAM (computer aided machining) all
day and its a godsend.

By the way I got around the 'send to' problem and agree about the 0 byte
files, don't know what I was thinking there, desperate I guess.

The printer thing I get around most times by using 'Edit Pad' to print,
it only asks once. I primarily print out ascii files (computer
controlled machine tool scripts) and so seldom need a word processor.

Thanks,
John