VS2005 when? VB2005 Express?

[Noozer]

Just visited the Visual Studio 2005 page on MS's MSDN site. I didn't see a
mention of a release date. Any idea when we can expect to have a "for
production" version available?

Also, about VB2005 Express... Can this be used to build and distribute stand
alone applications? I really like the idea of having the stand alone
development packages (VB, SQL, WebDev) instead of one monothilic development
package.

Of course I remember when QBasic was a major step up from GWBasic... : )

 

[Noozer]

Just visited the Visual Studio 2005 page on MS's MSDN site. I didn't see a
mention of a release date. Any idea when we can expect to have a "for
production" version available?

Also, about VB2005 Express... Can this be used to build and distribute stand
alone applications? I really like the idea of having the stand alone
development packages (VB, SQL, WebDev) instead of one monothilic development
package.

Of course I remember when QBasic was a major step up from GWBasic... : )

Nobody?

Best I can find for a date is late second quarter of 2005 for VS2005.

All they info on the MS site of VB2005 Express is just sales hype, nothing
concrete. Is the beta worth downloading? Can I make a proper app with it, or
will it be crippled?

 

[DraguVaso]

I used it and you can make small applications with the Express Edition,
although it is limited.
Because of the fact that you can't make Windows Services with it I
downloaded the VS 2005 Beta 1. It works great! I works without any problem
in production!

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Just visited the Visual Studio 2005 page on MS's MSDN site. I didn't see a
mention of a release date. Any idea when we can expect to have a "for
production" version available?

I read about H1 2005 somewhere.

Also, about VB2005 Express... Can this be used to build and distribute
stand
alone applications?

What's a stand alone application?

 

[Noozer]

I read about H1 2005 somewhere.


What's a stand alone application?

I mean that will the apps written in the beta of VB2005 be crippled, etc. in
some manner? Will they "expire" in 90 days or anything like that since they
were compiled on a beta version of VB?

I'd like to make use of it if it's not going to blow up in my face on
purpose. I can accept the risk of bugs in the beta version but not
intentional crippling.

 

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

I mean that will the apps written in the beta of VB2005 be crippled, etc.
in
some manner? Will they "expire" in 90 days or anything like that since
they
were compiled on a beta version of VB?

Beta versions are not intended/must not be used for production use.

 

[Dick Grier]

Hi,

There are limitations in the Express Editions. And, the Beta versions are
not intended to be used to create production applications -- previous
editions of Visual Studio (when released) broke programs that had be
compiled using the betas. This was not intentional, it just happened.
Thus, beta code had to be recompiled when the actual product was released.

VS2005 may be out in the time frame that MS has predicted (late 2ndQ or
early 3rdQ). However, I wouldn't bet my company on these "predictions."

I don't use the Express Edition, so I cannot tell you specifically what is
there, and what is missing.

Dick

--
Richard Grier (Microsoft Visual Basic MVP)

See www.hardandsoftware.net for contact information.

Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th
Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004. See
www.mabry.com/vbpgser4 to order.

 

[Brian Henry]

you have to be kidding me, beta 1 was full of problems and crashes
frequently when doing different tasks... Even Beta 2 November CTP has
problems with it... 2005 is definatly NOT ready for production use... At
least until RC1 before production usage, because there is a lot of wierd
stuff still happening in Beta 2, like objects dissapearing, code being
incorrectly formed by the IDE when its generated by the IDE and other
strange behaviors like crashes on exiting solutions and the IDE itself.

 

[DraguVaso]

I made a Windows Service that controls a SMS Modem via the Com Port.
It's just on one server, so not distributed to users. Because of the fact
that its a Service it doesn't have code generated by controls.
I noticed that I had like once a week an unexpected and unexplainable error,
but I just added a Global Error handler, and everything works fine now
My apologizes that it likes me more than you ;-)

 

[Noozer]

Hi,

There are limitations in the Express Editions. And, the Beta versions are
not intended to be used to create production applications -- previous
editions of Visual Studio (when released) broke programs that had be
compiled using the betas. This was not intentional, it just happened.
Thus, beta code had to be recompiled when the actual product was released.

This is what I wanted to know. I can live with any quirks that happen while
using the beta versions. Once VB2K5 is release I can recompile.

VS2005 may be out in the time frame that MS has predicted (late 2ndQ or
early 3rdQ). However, I wouldn't bet my company on these "predictions."

I don't use the Express Edition, so I cannot tell you specifically what is
there, and what is missing.

I'll be checking it out...

 

[Noozer]

Just visited the Visual Studio 2005 page on MS's MSDN site. I didn't see a
mention of a release date. Any idea when we can expect to have a "for
production" version available?

Also, about VB2005 Express... Can this be used to build and distribute stand
alone applications? I really like the idea of having the stand alone
development packages (VB, SQL, WebDev) instead of one monothilic development
package.

Of course I remember when QBasic was a major step up from GWBasic... : )

Just an FYI for anyone who is interested...

VB2005 definately offers a few improvements over VB.Net 2003. The IDE is
definately still beta, but definately work a look at.