VS Studio vs. VB.NET 2003

[Guest]

Hello,
I use Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional version at work.
I'd like to buy .NET for my home PC.
All I use is VB.NET and I'd like to use ASP.NET eventually.
What kind of functionality etc will I lose if I simply buy VB.NET 2003
Standard edition?
What are some of the differences between the full VS version and the VB
standard edition?
Thanks,
Amber

 

[Andrew Robinson]

Can't seem to find any info on the MS site about the 2003 editions. Nothing
but info on 2005.

If you are willing to move up to 2005, you can download the Express Editions
for free:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx

Looks like you would want:

Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition &
Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition

 

[Guest]

2005 isn't an option, as the company that I work for won't allow an update
to .NET 2.0 Framework.

 

[Andrew Robinson]

Still can't find any links. My guess is that when moving from Pro to
Standard you will loose some of the ability to do remote debugging, sql
debugging and the ability to write smart device appliations (PPC and
SmartPhone.) But that is a guess based on my memory of and old product.

If you are running this on your home machine, what does the "company" have
to do with it?

Hope this is of some help.

 

[Rob R. Ainscough]

If you need to sell VS 2005 to you company exec's -- one word "more secure"
and then toss in casual statements like "I'm glad your taking the security
responsibility and not me...". This usually get most manager types off
there ass and you'll see a .NET framework 2.0 rollout sooner than you can
get your next cup of coffee.

But more importantly to you, VS 2005 is what .NET should have been 3 years
ago. Some key factors:
Debugger:
Edit and Continue (AFT)
Visualizer for DataSet (yes you get a nice grid with the table name for
each table in the dataset and you get to see ALL the data)
IDE:
Find (at last across solution)
Intellisense is much better
Warnings
Help links actually work now
Language enhancements:
Operator overloads
Generics

and a host of other nice features...

Anyway, now that VB.NET has caught up to what I could do in VB6 5 years ago
I hope MS stick with it this time cause I for one will get off the wagon if
MS re-invent the wheel again and send me back in time yet again. Now that
the mass rush to do web development is no more and people (end users) are
realizing that IE is the worst possible interface for them, we'll start
seeing more ClickOnce deployed .NET 2.0 applications and web development
will go back to be what it is good at -- static pretty pictures. I've
delivered my first .NET 2.0 ClickOnce app that is 427KB -- most users don't
realize they're no long running under IE client but appreciate just how fast
and clean the interface is.

 

[Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)]

Don't do it. AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!

Visual Basic .NET Standard should be called Visual Basic .NET Learning
Edition, like the Visual Studio 6 SKUs were named. It is so downgraded it is
a pain. While you can code anything you like, the tools are aimed for
students (and possibly hobbyists) not for pros. You lose almost all of the
Enterprise features and many project types.

Check this out:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/previous/2003/

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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Think Outside the Box!
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[Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\)]

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/previous/2003/

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

***********************************************
Think Outside the Box!
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[BravesCharm]

"Anyway, now that VB.NET has caught up to what I could do in VB6 5
years ago"
That sentence makes not sense at all. Everything you could do in VB6
you could do in VB.NET and much more. The only thing the VS.NET didn't
have was Edit and Continue.

 

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Gregory,

The name now is Visual Basic Express,

I assume that you have the same opinion about that than.

If you see that name for the first time, than you can suppose that it is a
better (special) version than the Team Suite.

Your name Learning Edition would have fit in my opinion much more the
purpose.



Cor