vista x86 or x64???

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Neerav Kothari

hello. i'm planning to buy a laptop and have seen that most of them come
with vista 32 bit.

i'm planning to ask the manufacturer to give me x64 instead.

according to u which is better on core 2 duo laptops... x63 or x86 ???
 
M

Mick Murphy

The only prob with the 64bit would be seeing how much RAM the laptop's
motherboard can accomodate!
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

32 Bit software is said to experience a 9% boost in performance on Vista
x64. But there are some challenges that still exist to achieve a general
smooth experience on the OS, application and device driver wise. I would
stick with 32 bit Vista for time being. You can migrate from 32 to 64 bit in
future when things
get better support wise from the industry.

Its really for a specific segment of the market that understands the
capabilities, advantages and disadvantages of using it, the biggest
advantage of all has to be the support for a larger memory address space
that allows you to do more number crunching with scientific, financial and
other engineering applications that use a lot of memory. Hopefully in the
future, more mainstream applications will support the platform and harness
its capabilities, but with the majority of systems coming with 1 to 2 GBs of
memory, and 64 bit really addressing larger amounts up to 128 GBs, you won't
see a lot of apps for now. I am not aware of any laptops that go beyond 4
GBs of RAM anyway, so it basically makes sense again to stick with Vista 32
bit.


Here is a great article by Kristan Kenney (MVP) to read:
http://www.windows-now.com/blogs/km...bit-vs-64-bit-which-one-is-right-for-you.aspx
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

3D Animation and Rendering, Financial and Statistical, Engineering and
Sciences, DNA modeling, and this just for the work stations.
 
K

Kerry Brown

The original Apple II had 4 kb of RAM. The original IBM PC had either 16 kb
or 64 kb of RAM depending on how you ordered it. Note that those are kb not
mb or gb. Don't be short sighted in your predictions. It's easy to imagine a
future with systems that come with tb of RAM.
 
S

Saucy

Neerav Kothari said:
hello. i'm planning to buy a laptop and have seen that most of them come
with vista 32 bit.

i'm planning to ask the manufacturer to give me x64 instead.

according to u which is better on core 2 duo laptops... x63 or x86 ???


Use x86. If ever a time there's a high performance 64-bit app that doesn't
have a 32-bit version then, .. well .. but otherwise you will have an easier
time of it with x86.

Saucy
 
G

Greegor

Use x86. If ever a time there's a high performance 64-bit app that doesn't
have a 32-bit version then, .. well .. but otherwise you will have an easier
time of it with x86.

Saucy

So why is it when MS promotes Vista they mention
the 5 various levels, and in a footnote mention the
Starter version (developing countries only) but
never even mention the x64 version?

Lots of people in the general public actually think
(mistakenly) that Vista is all about 64 bit processing.

Having a low end and a high end version makes some
sense but having 5 different levels PLUS x64 versions
makes for customer confusion and a tech support
nightmare doesn't it?
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

hello. i'm planning to buy a laptop and have seen that most of them come
with vista 32 bit.

i'm planning to ask the manufacturer to give me x64 instead.

according to u which is better on core 2 duo laptops... x63 or x86 ???


For the moment, there is essentially no difference in performance. The
64-bit version is faster *only* when running 64-bit software, and
there is very little of that available.

To me the only reason for getting the 64-bit version is to give you
the ability to run 64-bit applications as they become available in the
future. That's a potential benefit, not a current one.

Some people will undoubtedly point out that 64-bit Vista can use much
more RAM than the 32-bit version. Although that's true, it also makes
essentially no difference to the vast majority of us. The amount of
RAM that 32-bit Vista can use is considerably more than most people
can use effectively, and having more RAM helps performance only up to
a point. More RAM than 2GB (which 32-bit Vista can easily handle) is a
waste for almost everyone except those editing large videos and
photographs (and even they usually don't need the amounts that 64-bit
can handle).

Also be aware that many people have problems getting 64-bit drivers
for all their hardware. Even if the manufacturer supplies what's
needed for the laptop, you may have potential problems getting drivers
for printers, scanners, etc.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

the one i'm planning to buy is 1gb. is it sufficient?


How much RAM you need for good performance depends, as always, on what
apps you run, and is *not* the same for everyone. I can't tell you how
much *you* need, but I'll point out that 1GB is about the minimum
amount that most people find adequate. Many people report a
substantial performance boost by going to 2GB.

If it were me, I'd get 2GB, but it's also possible that 1GB is
sufficient for you.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Having a low end and a high end version makes some
sense but having 5 different levels PLUS x64 versions
makes for customer confusion and a tech support
nightmare doesn't it?



*My* opinion? Yes, there are two many different versions.
 
T

Titus Pullo

Neerav Kothari said:
hello. i'm planning to buy a laptop and have seen that most of them come
with vista 32 bit.

i'm planning to ask the manufacturer to give me x64 instead.

according to u which is better on core 2 duo laptops... x63 or x86 ???

I bought a ThinkPad R61 with Business x64. I've never used the 32 bit
version of Vista so I cant compare, but I can tell you that the 64 bit is
great. No driver problems. All my software runs great. Its stable and
secure.
 
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Neerav Kothari

i use my pc for the internet, email, instant messaging, programming in c,c++
and java and sometimes games.
 

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