vista on multiboot system crcdisk.sys error

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Chriske911

when I first installed Vista it just worked without too many problems
nvidia provided a beta driver for the mobo and everything worked fine
the sound was even better than with xp on the same system

I had a rating of 3 ranging from 3.2 to 3.8

then after a few days I went on and reinstalled Suse on the remaining
free space of the boot disk in an extended partition
all of the windows OS are in a primary partition

suse and winxp and win2k3 are all booting up fine using the grub
bootloader
but vista refuses to boot, not even into safe mode

trying a verbose boot I see that everything is loading until the
crcdisk.sys driver kicks in

gathering from the name I think it checks if the disk it is booting
from is still OK
could it be that vista refuses to start up when there is a
unrecognizable partition (ReiserFS) found on the bootdisk?

just to make it clear that Vista was running fine and I changed
absolutely nothing in the mean time after it's last startup

I did let the Grub bootloader write it's config into the MBR

I hope some MS guys reading this can clarify the issue at hand

grtz
 
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AJR

From your post: "and I changed absolutely nothing in the mean time after
it's last startup" - conflicts with "...then after a few days I went on and
reinstalled Suse "
As you know Vista uses "BCD Store" a three part boot manager to create a
pre-boot environment (Microsoft refers to it as a"pre-operating system") -
most likely installing Suse after Vista "messed up" BCD.
 
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Chriske911

From your post: "and I changed absolutely nothing in the mean time
after it's last startup" - conflicts with "...then after a few days I
went on and reinstalled Suse "
As you know Vista uses "BCD Store" a three part boot manager to
create a pre-boot environment (Microsoft refers to it as
a"pre-operating system") - most likely installing Suse after Vista
"messed up" BCD.

meaning nothing within the hidden primary partition that holds the
vista installation

the only thing that did change is the MBR of the primary disk
but that is what I was doing before too with another boot loader
setting another partition to bootable and unhiding it

what is BCD and where to look for this?

thnx
 
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Chriske911

From your post: "and I changed absolutely nothing in the mean time
after it's last startup" - conflicts with "...then after a few days I
went on and reinstalled Suse "
As you know Vista uses "BCD Store" a three part boot manager to
create a pre-boot environment (Microsoft refers to it as
a"pre-operating system") - most likely installing Suse after Vista
"messed up" BCD.

reading up about BCD I think this is no issue here

like I wrote before:
all windows OS's have been installed in a primary partition
this means no OS can directly 'see' another OS and all think they are
on a C: drive, so to speak
I use a 3party bootloader to switch between OS's or just fdisk, gpart,
pqmagict, grub, lilo or whatever

AFAIK suse or rather ReiserFS cannot be read natively from within
windows,... be it maybe until now?

I do think it has something to do with the install of suse but how and
why is still a mystery so far

thnx anyway
 
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Chad Harris

I don't know whether you are running Vista 32 bit or 64 bit and whether
there may be relative problems with SUSE and dirvers, ect.

There could be several problems with this. You may have to delete Vista and
Suse and then make separate partitions from XP via

http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html

Dual-boot Windows Vista and Linux

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t55203.html

___________________

You may be able to fix things with:

Vista Boot Pro

http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/

http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/

Easy BCD

http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

To context the BCD Store for you:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/library/85cd5efe-c349-427c-b035-c2719d4af778.mspx
______________________________________

You might be able to repair Vista with Startup Repair, part of Win RE:

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore

Don't curb your enthusiasn Alonea. You can do this. Any questions, lemme
know.

CH
 
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Chad Harris

You'll see the files as Colin says in C:\Boot if that's where XP is
installed.

You can see the aray of switches by typing BCDedit /? at the Vista cmd
prompt and you can drill into the switches the same way.


Creating a multi-boot configuration that includes Windows Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us

BCD
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/BCD/bcd/portal.asp

Boot Options in Windows Vista
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d..._1a0c1be6-ad98-4a1b-abb7-a4ba559b2d92.xml.asp

Where is boot.ini?
http://computerbits.wordpress.com/tag/windows/

CH
 
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David Weemys

Apologies if I should be starting a new thread....

I've been searching the newsgroups for several weeks to try and find
a solution to the 'crcdisk.sys' error, when trying to install Vista
on a Toshiba Tectra A4 laptop.

I had the the impression it was a hardware issue and unlikely to
be resolveable until Toshiba updated drivers etc. From this thread
however, it look like it is more an MBR issue?

Can someone confirm for me what 'crcdisk.sys' does/checks?

If anyone can provide any clues to me getting Vista up and running
on my Toshiba, it is running XP Pro amd I had created a new
partition for a fresh install. The installation disk is fine as it
installed on my desktop without problem.

Is it likely to make any difference if I were to totally wipe the
disk and try a Vista instal, without XP?

Any help appreciated,

David
 

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