Vista lost Start|Run

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Jim Michaels

I use Start|Run in XP and earlier versions of windows all the time
(actually, windows-logo-key R).
Now Microsoft has taken it away & left us with a search engine.

Some people like using the keyboard. some people like the mouse instead.
And some people, like me, prefer to use the keyboard, but also use the
mouse, whichever is most efficient.
 
Jim Michaels said:
I use Start|Run in XP and earlier versions of windows all the time
(actually, windows-logo-key R).
Now Microsoft has taken it away & left us with a search engine.

Some people like using the keyboard. some people like the mouse instead.
And some people, like me, prefer to use the keyboard, but also use the
mouse, whichever is most efficient.
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I'm not in front of Vista at this moment so this is from memory. While you
can still use WinKey+R you can also add RUN back to the start menu.
Right-Click your start menu and go to properties. On the Start Menu tab
you'll see a Customize button. Now search for the RUN command and
select/check it.
 
Jim Michaels said:
I use Start|Run in XP and earlier versions of windows all the time
(actually, windows-logo-key R).
Now Microsoft has taken it away & left us with a search engine.

Some people like using the keyboard. some people like the mouse instead.
And some people, like me, prefer to use the keyboard, but also use the
mouse, whichever is most efficient.
Click to expand...

It's a little annoying not to have to choose "run" (via mouse or keyboard)
anymore but I'm getting used to it. My normal procedure is to press Ctrl+Esc
and then the R key (very few of my users have a keyboard with a Windows key)

What annoys me about the new command line it replaced is that it does not
remember my previous commands, like we had before with the old Star|Run
command line.

What I do like is, now that Google is my default search engine, typing my
Google search string at the command line and pressing the up arrow once to
select "Search the Internet" means I no longer need a Google search
bar/window taken valuable screen real estate.
 
Run is still there, but it is hidden in the accessories folder.
Alternatively hit the windows key plus R to bring up the run box. you can
also add the Run command to the start menu from the star menu properties
window (right click the taskbar and select properties. Click the start menu
tab and then click the customise button. Scroll down the list that appears
until you come to the 'run command' option. Just tick the box to have the
run command option placed on the start menu and then click OK)

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John Barnett MVP said:
Run is still there, but it is hidden in the accessories folder.
Alternatively hit the windows key plus R to bring up the run box. you can
also add the Run command to the start menu from the star menu properties
window (right click the taskbar and select properties. Click the start
menu tab and then click the customise button. Scroll down the list that
appears until you come to the 'run command' option. Just tick the box to
have the run command option placed on the start menu and then click OK)
Click to expand...

Q. OK, I must be missing something: Why do we need the Run command when the
command line is already there when you click on the start button?
 
just bob said:
Q. OK, I must be missing something: Why do we need the Run command when
the command line is already there when you click on the start button?
Click to expand...

It keeps its own history. Which can be useful on it's own.
 
In message <[email protected]> "just bob"
Q. OK, I must be missing something: Why do we need the Run command when the
command line is already there when you click on the start button?
Click to expand...

That's a search, not a command line -- Similar, but not always the same.
 
Add the run command as Justin explained and you will have the history
function.

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Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User
 
As Justin has explained the Run command keeps its own history.

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DevilsPGD said:
In message <[email protected]> "just bob"


That's a search, not a command line -- Similar, but not always the same.
Click to expand...


I guess I do not do anything too complex because I've entered a lot of
commands in the search pane and it works just like the old Run field, except
it's missing the history .... and when I want to open a new explorer for
my "E" drive, I used to be able to type "e:" but now I must include the
backslash, i.e. "e:\"

When I find something else the search pane can't do I'll add the Run back.
Until then the search pane works OK as a command line for me.

-Bob
 
just said:
Yes, that is the one feature the new one missed. Hopefully someone will
find a way to get it back.
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the cmd shell is different in that once in a while you are required to
start a windows program using the start command. e.g. "start winword",
as opposed to console mode apps which do not need this. more typing. I
guess a cmd shell is useful nonetheless. it's something.
 
In message <[email protected]> "just bob"
I guess I do not do anything too complex because I've entered a lot of
commands in the search pane and it works just like the old Run field, except
it's missing the history .... and when I want to open a new explorer for
my "E" drive, I used to be able to type "e:" but now I must include the
backslash, i.e. "e:\"

When I find something else the search pane can't do I'll add the Run back.
Until then the search pane works OK as a command line for me.
Click to expand...

History is the big one for me, however, the lack of autocomplete is
another deal breaker for me.

You also lose the "browse" functionality.
 
DevilsPGD said:
In message <[email protected]> "just bob"


History is the big one for me, however, the lack of autocomplete is
another deal breaker for me.

You also lose the "browse" functionality.
Click to expand...

1. You can only auto complete if you have a history.
2. You haven't lost anything. The run command is still there.
 
In message <#[email protected]> "Justin"
1. You can only auto complete if you have a history.
Click to expand...

Not at all -- Type C:\Windows\System32\wpdsh into your Start --> Run and
see what happens. I doubt you have C:\Windows\System32\wpdshext.dll in
your Start --> Run history.
2. You haven't lost anything. The run command is still there.
Click to expand...

True, just showing the difference between Search and Run.
 
DevilsPGD said:
In message <#[email protected]> "Justin"


Not at all -- Type C:\Windows\System32\wpdsh into your Start --> Run and
see what happens. I doubt you have C:\Windows\System32\wpdshext.dll in
your Start --> Run history.
Click to expand...

True, you are auto completing a folder path. In other words you are
browsing.
 
Justin said:
True, you are auto completing a folder path. In other words you are
browsing.
Click to expand...


Ah, auto-complete. Yes, I do miss it, too. I'm an old DOS users so I don't
mind typing, especially when all 10 or so of our servers have similar path
structure so it's pretty easy for me to just use the search bar to type
something like \\servername\public\files\etc and press enter. why could they
not add history and auto complete functions to the search bar I dunno. MS
being lazy, I guess.
 
What's the problem again?

XP - you need key strokes to get to RUN. I forget how many (at least two).
Vista - WinKey+R to get to RUN.

What's the problem?

XP - Two clicks for RUN.
Vista - Two clicks for RUN. Once you put it back.

What's the problem?
 
In message <[email protected]> "Justin"
What's the problem again?

XP - you need key strokes to get to RUN. I forget how many (at least two).
Vista - WinKey+R to get to RUN.

What's the problem?

XP - Two clicks for RUN.
Vista - Two clicks for RUN. Once you put it back.

What's the problem?
Click to expand...

No problem -- To quote my last message "just showing the difference
between Search and Run.", answering the very specific statement in the
previous post, "When I find something else the search pane can't do..."
 
DevilsPGD said:
In message <[email protected]> "Justin"


No problem -- To quote my last message "just showing the difference
between Search and Run.", answering the very specific statement in the
previous post, "When I find something else the search pane can't do..."
Click to expand...

Sorry, I wasn't specific. I meant in regards to this thread in general not
just your post. The complaint of the RUN command not being present on the
start menu by default comes up a lot.
 
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