vista compatability

[Carmen O'Donnell]

I will be looking for a new notebook real soon and was wondering is there
was a place that lists the compatible hardware/softare .
I may need to buy a few thingss for myy current Windows XP, or do I need to
look up each one seperately?

Thanks for any and all help,
Carmen

 

[Mr. Arnold]

I will be looking for a new notebook real soon and was wondering is there
was a place that lists the compatible hardware/softare .
I may need to buy a few thingss for myy current Windows XP, or do I need
to look up each one seperately?

The notebook should come as Vista compatible with Vista compatible solutions
and hardware.

The mistake people make is thinking that solutions that work on non Vista
O/S(s) are going to work on Vista. Some of it may work. There are
compatibility modes in Vista for running legacy software like Win XP, 2k,
98, 95, etc modes.

http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5175

Some of the stuff that you may install that's non Vista compatible may even
be working, but they could be contributing to other issues that are not
apparent to the user and he or she can't put 2 + 2 together and understand
that what they have installed is causing issues.

I guess what I am saying is Vista is a good O/S. But the hardware and
software vendors have not caught up with Vista. They will catch-up to the
O/S like they did when Win 2K and XP were released.

So, you can play it foot loose and fancy free with installing software on
Vista that's non Vista compliant, right now.

http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/

Be a happy Vista user and do the right thing. If you do that, you won't be
crawling back to the NG and saying you're not happy with Vista, and you need
to crawl to XP with your tail between your legs. <g>

 

[Mr. Arnold]

<correction from other post>

So, you can't play it foot loose and fancy free with installing software on
Vista that's non Vista compliant, right now.

 

[Lang Murphy]

I will be looking for a new notebook real soon and was wondering is there
was a place that lists the compatible hardware/softare .
I may need to buy a few thingss for myy current Windows XP, or do I need
to look up each one seperately?

Thanks for any and all help,
Carmen

Carmen,

Not sure I'm parsing your post correctly... you're thinking of getting a new
notebook, that seems pretty obvious. But what's with the "I may need to buy
a few things for my current Windows XP..."? How does that relate to buying a
new notebook? Are you talking about software running on your current XP box
that you're not sure will run in Vista?

And, I must disagree with Shawn's reply. (Sorry, Shawn! I know you're a good
guy.) The Windows Upgrade Advisor -may- give you good info on the Vista
compatibility of your applications... and... it may not. I would suggest
that you post exactly which applications you're talking about and you may
get replies from folks who've already dealt with those applications.

Lang

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Shawn;
I think of it as an advisor and nothing more.
The fact Advisor is in the name suggests the user has to do more if
good results are desired.

I suggest users verify Windows Vista compatibility with the
manufacturers of their essential hardware and software.

While the Upgrade Advisor is a good tool, it is by no means a magic
bullet for everything and was not intended to be.
The available hardware and software is to varied and changing to
expect more than advice.

 

[Adam Albright]

Shawn;
I think of it as an advisor and nothing more.
The fact Advisor is in the name suggests the user has to do more if
good results are desired.

I suggest users verify Windows Vista compatibility with the
manufacturers of their essential hardware and software.

I'm still waiting for an answer why my Gigabyte motherboard passed
Microsoft certification and didn't function correctly with SATA drives
until AFTER updating the BIOS. Kind of exposes Microsoft's claimed
"testing" as a scam.

While the Upgrade Advisor is a good tool, it is by no means a magic
bullet for everything and was not intended to be.
The available hardware and software is to varied and changing to
expect more than advice.

Only a true blue Microsoft fanatic would try to pretend the Upgrade
Advisor is a good tool when it passes a person's system and suggests
it is safe to upgrade to Vista only for the installer to crash on the
very components during the actual install that the Advisor said
wouldn't present any problems.

 

[Ian Betts]

Come on now. On the Linux lists that of course you adore, they are forever
seeking drivers for video card that Linux cannot supply and who then has to
supply, the manufacturers of course not Linux.

 

[Adam Albright]

Come on now. On the Linux lists that of course you adore, they are forever
seeking drivers for video card that Linux cannot supply and who then has to
supply, the manufacturers of course not Linux.

You are just another fanboy dummy. I'm not a Linux fan, however I
acknowledge it is a better designed OS than Windows. The point is I
never once suggested any flavor of Linux or preached people should use
it and never once visited any Linux list as you claim. Come on, you
can lie better can't you?

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

What did Gigabyte say about their hardware?
Surely you asked them before attempting installation.

Read my post again.
Make note what is said about "advisor".
Again you overlooked a significant detail in a post from someone you
do not like.
Typical of Adam.

"and suggests it is safe"
By your own words. "suggests" NOT Guarantee.
There is no guarantee that the advice from the Upgrade Advisor is
complete unto itself.
Any tool misused can be seen as poor.
As long as you continue to demand more than is intended, you will
blind yourself by the dark glasses you choose to wear.
That applies to any tool from any source.

"fanatic"
More of your pointless name calling.
What you do when you have NOTHING to contribute and yet you are unable
to control your need to past.

What you have said about people who call others names:
"Name calling, typical of ten year olds."

 

[Adam Albright]

Hi Adam,

Vista is a different beast than XP or your other OS. Your motherboard
may of been certified, but it must have slipped through the cracks
somehow for Vista. Thus, the BIOS update for it. Vista runs thing a
bit differently and evidentaly needed that newer BIOS.

Like Jupiter Jones said, "Upgrade Advisor" is just a advisor suggestion
not a definite answer. It is helpful in pointing out some noncompatible
items. You should always check each item at their website to check for
compatibility. They are always changing with updates.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Sure, but surely you can understand why this upsets people. When you
buy hardware and see it has a "Vista Certified" logo on the packaging
and the same logo on the vendor's web site you except that it DID pass
some kind of testing. I mean come on. We're not talking about anything
very different, what failed was the SATA controller. Very common on
MBs these days. Obviously Microsoft did NOT test it's function as well
as claimed in the certification process or they would have seen it
didn't work correctly.

The same with the Upgrade Advisor. Like I said, I accepted at face
value what it told me... which was one driver while not totally up to
Vista's liking would NOT present any problems with installing Vista,
so I went ahead only to have the install process crash and burn right
when it tried to access the very driver the Upgrade Advisor said
wouldn't cause any problems.

It boils down to WHO should I blame for this? If not Microsoft, who
then? Both instances were under the control of Microsoft. It was their
certification process that failed and it was their Upgrade Advisor
that failed me also.

That's simply what the fanboy crowd (not including you in it) don't
understand. Microsoft has a well deserved reputation of not being up
front with it's customers. They also have a reputation of rushing each
new versions of Windows out the door expecting PAYING CUSTOMERS to
find blunders neither their own software engineers or their hand
picked beta testers did. Since we all know what I just said to be
true, how can anyone argue against not being upset with Microsoft when
they've done things like this for years?

 

[Ian]

Adam you still do not admit the obvious. Both Linux and Mac's produce new
versions and they both expect hardware and software manufactures to produce
new or updated versions to use the new system. Most of use who have
experience do not blame or get uptight over it, we chase up what is
required.

SATA drives need drivers that can be read by the system not the other way
round.

The upgrade tool is a way to overcome some of the failures the manufactures
not the system.

If I produce a new faster car I expect the tire people to produce better
tires.

 

[Adam Albright]

What did Gigabyte say about their hardware?

Surely you asked them before attempting installation.

Look for yourself

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...ew.aspx?ProductID=2532&ProductName=GA-P35-DQ6

Note the Certified for Vista logo near the middle of the page left
side when you scroll down.

Read my post again.
Make note what is said about "advisor".
Again you overlooked a significant detail in a post from someone you
do not like.

Read my response. The upgrade advisor ADVISED to install Vista which
crashed half way through the install process. Only a true blue fanboy
would try to pretend that's a "feature".

Typical of Adam.

Typical Jupiter.

"and suggests it is safe"
By your own words. "suggests" NOT Guarantee.
There is no guarantee that the advice from the Upgrade Advisor is
complete unto itself.

The weakest of all excuses. Lets see if I follow your logic. You
suggest people should run the upgrade advisor and:

1. follow it's advice
2. not follow it's advice
3. flip a coin and pray

Any tool misused can be seen as poor.

Do you ever stop with your bullsh*t? Explain how people "misuse" the
Upgrade Advisor which has no controls to fiddle with and simply scans
your current system and reports what it finds.

As long as you continue to demand more than is intended, you will
blind yourself by the dark glasses you choose to wear.

Oh the irony.

That applies to any tool from any source.

"fanatic"
More of your pointless name calling.
What you do when you have NOTHING to contribute and yet you are unable
to control your need to past.

I've contributed way more than you have. When is the last time you
actually helped anybody? All I see you do is constant bitching and
saying I'm stalking you. Geez man, grow up!

 

[Adam Albright]

Adam you still do not admit the obvious. Both Linux and Mac's produce new
versions and they both expect hardware and software manufactures to produce
new or updated versions to use the new system. Most of use who have
experience do not blame or get uptight over it, we chase up what is
required.

Congratulations, you just shown you know how to cherry pick what I
said. Another typical fanboy tactic.

 

[Ian]

I have yet to see you offer anyone HELP.

Look for yourself

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...ew.aspx?ProductID=2532&ProductName=GA-P35-DQ6

Note the Certified for Vista logo near the middle of the page left
side when you scroll down.


Read my response. The upgrade advisor ADVISED to install Vista which
crashed half way through the install process. Only a true blue fanboy
would try to pretend that's a "feature".


Typical Jupiter.


The weakest of all excuses. Lets see if I follow your logic. You
suggest people should run the upgrade advisor and:

1. follow it's advice
2. not follow it's advice
3. flip a coin and pray


Do you ever stop with your bullsh*t? Explain how people "misuse" the
Upgrade Advisor which has no controls to fiddle with and simply scans
your current system and reports what it finds.


Oh the irony.


I've contributed way more than you have. When is the last time you
actually helped anybody? All I see you do is constant bitching and
saying I'm stalking you. Geez man, grow up!

 

[Ian]

Your a joke. Fanboy. Is that the limit of your vocabulary. I do not need to
cherry pick with someone who leaves themselves open to direct critic as you
do.

 

[Adam Albright]

I have yet to see you offer anyone HELP.

You must be blind, ignorant or both.

 

[Adam Albright]

Your a joke. Fanboy. Is that the limit of your vocabulary. I do not need to
cherry pick with someone who leaves themselves open to direct critic as you
do.

Give it a rest, you're no match for my intellect. Of course if you
enjoy getting beat up verbally, just ask Frank, please continue. ;-)

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"All I see you do is constant bitching and saying I'm stalking you."
Selective reading yet again from Adam.
You should read your own posts and you would see much of what you
complain.
More projection from Adam.

"Look for yourself"
Here it is again since you did not read my post the first time:
"What did Gigabyte say about their hardware?
Surely you asked them before attempting installation."
It appears you did not ask and simply stopped after looking at the
link.
I will rephrase for you Adam.
What did Gigabyte say when you asked them about the specific issues
you encountered with a Gigabyte motherboard?

"try to pretend that's a "feature""
I NEVER suggested any such thing.
Your continued need to see what is not written is yet more evidence of
your own insecurities.

"Lets see if I follow your logic"
You are not making it obvious you did not read my post.
Read it again probably for the first time.
You completely ignored what else I said.
Of course you seem fixated on blaming Microsoft and seem unable to
look for other contributing causes that may conflict with your agenda.

"I've contributed way more than you have. When is the last time..."
More of your fixation with numbers as if this is a game.
You can play that game most others here are secure enough in
themselves they have no need.

"Geez man, grow up"
More of your continued insults probably controlled by your own
insecurities.
You simply lack the ability to control yourself and thus spout your
endless insults and name calling while contributing NOTHING.
Perhaps you need to "grow up".

 

[Ian]

You must be blind, ignorant or both.

 

[Ian]

You are not only ignorant but can lie through you teeth. I have read every
thread since I came here and not one of yours gave advice only condemnation.