Verisign temporarily suspends site-finder service...

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NT Canuck

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William Stacey

Agreed :). Who wants their long-term solution. Not me. Keep it off.

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William Stacey, DNS MVP

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
It's about time. Hope it's permanent.

I like the way they say there:
"is no data to indicate that the core operation of the Domain Name System or
stability of the Internet has been adversely affected."

With all the hoopla and complaints, you would think they are closing both
eyes to it?


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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
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NT Canuck said:
VeriSign Will Temporarily Suspend Web Navigation Service
in Order to Continue To Work With Internet Community Towards
a Long-Term Implementation
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031003/sff057_1.html

**note this is a "temporary" compliance with an ICANN request. (afaict)

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Ace Fekay [MVP]

It's about time. Hope it's permanent.

I like the way they say there:
"is no data to indicate that the core operation of the Domain Name System or
stability of the Internet has been adversely affected."

With all the hoopla and complaints, you would think they are closing both
eyes to it?


--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
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NT Canuck said:
VeriSign Will Temporarily Suspend Web Navigation Service
in Order to Continue To Work With Internet Community Towards
a Long-Term Implementation
Click to expand...

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031003/sff057_1.html

**note this is a "temporary" compliance with an ICANN request. (afaict)

--
'Seek and ye shall find'
NT Canuck
http://ntcanuck.com BIND-PE & DNS
http://ntcanuck.com/tq/ Tips & Tweaks
http://ntcanuck.com/net/board/index.php
news://news.grc.com/grc.techtalk.dns.bind_pe_beta
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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

AF> I like the way they say there:
AF> "is no data to indicate that the core operation of the
AF> Domain Name System or stability of the Internet has
AF> been adversely affected."
AF>
AF> With all the hoopla and complaints, you would think they
AF> are closing both eyes to it?

Russell Lewis' argument is that all of those complaints are
"anecdotal and isolated". I think that this is a case of a
new conjugation: "I have data", "you have anecdotes". Notice
that Russell Lewis asserts that SiteFinder "has been well
received by millions of Internet users". I suspect that his
data supporting that are far shakier (Web page hits do not
signify approval, after all.) than the data that ICANN and
others have to support the assertion that the privacy and
operation of most Internet services has been affected.
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
William Stacey said:
Agreed :). Who wants their long-term solution. Not me. Keep it
off.
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Yep, hope they open both eyes and ears to the community to keep it OFF!!

Ace
 
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Michael Snyder [MSFT]

Does anyone have a good list of the problems that were caused by Verisign's
sitefinder service?

It might be useful ammunition to keep it from returning.
Thanks
--
Michael Snyder
Active Directory Admin Tool Test

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"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
It's about time. Hope it's permanent.

I like the way they say there:
"is no data to indicate that the core operation of the Domain Name System or
stability of the Internet has been adversely affected."

With all the hoopla and complaints, you would think they are closing both
eyes to it?


--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
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NT Canuck said:
VeriSign Will Temporarily Suspend Web Navigation Service
in Order to Continue To Work With Internet Community Towards
a Long-Term Implementation
Click to expand...

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031003/sff057_1.html

**note this is a "temporary" compliance with an ICANN request. (afaict)

--
'Seek and ye shall find'
NT Canuck
http://ntcanuck.com BIND-PE & DNS
http://ntcanuck.com/tq/ Tips & Tweaks
http://ntcanuck.com/net/board/index.php
news://news.grc.com/grc.techtalk.dns.bind_pe_beta
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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

MS> Does anyone have a good list of the problems that were caused
MS> by Verisign's sitefinder service?

Yes. At least two people have.

<URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/questions-with-yes-or-no-answers.html>

I have one.

<URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/verisign-internet-coup.html#Consequences>

IAB has another.

<URL:http://www.iab.org./documents/docs/2003-09-20-dns-wildcards.html>

_The Register_ has some anecdotes, such as "Verisign broke my printer".

<URL:http://theregister.co.uk./content/6/32872.html>
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard said:
Russell Lewis' argument is that all of those complaints are
"anecdotal and isolated". I think that this is a case of a
new conjugation: "I have data", "you have anecdotes". Notice
that Russell Lewis asserts that SiteFinder "has been well
received by millions of Internet users". I suspect that his
data supporting that are far shakier (Web page hits do not
signify approval, after all.) than the data that ICANN and
others have to support the assertion that the privacy and
operation of most Internet services has been affected.
Click to expand...

I agree. Two different viewpoints, one with Russel Lewis, the other with the
industry.

Also, all those "hits", being mistyped URLs, actually gave them a count of
the prospective advertising numbers were they to keep SiteFinder.


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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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NT Canuck

FYI

Experts describe problems with Site Finder
Source: Security Focus (AP)
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7157

VeriSign says ICANN is stifling Net's progress
Government Computer News, 10/6/03
http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/23754-1.html

VeriSign changes tactics on security
ZDNet, 10/7/03
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5087978.html

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Walt Howard

In

They just won't stop will they?
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Not only will they not stop, their reply suggests that they want to
replace the IETF with themselves, at least for DNS-related topics.
Given the kind of work they've done, and the kind of work the IETF
has done, I'd rather leave the IETF in charge of standards.
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
NT Canuck said:
"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
message
FYI

Experts describe problems with Site Finder
Source: Security Focus (AP)
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7157

VeriSign says ICANN is stifling Net's progress
Government Computer News, 10/6/03
http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/23754-1.html

VeriSign changes tactics on security
ZDNet, 10/7/03
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5087978.html
Click to expand...

They just won't stop will they?

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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

Hope they don't get that far! They've messed things up enough with what
happened last month. Could only imagine what they would do if they took over
the IETF.

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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 

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